Can I get alignment merits without Going Rogue?


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I've been under the possibly mistaken impression that I could do morality missions and accumulate Alignment merits and trade them in for IO recipes without GR, just that I could not actually choose a different alignment.

Is that possible?


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Hmm, I thought you could get tip missions, but would be stuck at as you couldn't get a morality mission.

Are you stuck at 10 tips completed for one side?

Edit - if you are, and can't get the next tip, then that is the answer.


 

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Short answer: No. Long answer: In order to get a H/V merit you must complete a morality mission, which you can't get without GR.


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Without GR you can get tips, but not morality missions. Without morality missions, you can't earn Alignment Merits.

Without GR you can't enter the Loyalty Lounges. If you can't enter the LLs, you can neither convert nor spend Alignment Merits.

TL; DR: No.


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Originally Posted by Jetpack View Post
Hmm, I thought you could get tip missions, but would be stuck at as you couldn't get a morality mission.

Are you stuck at 10 tips completed for one side?

Edit - if you are, and can't get the next tip, then that is the answer.
Yeah, that looks like it.

Thanks all.


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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
I've been under the possibly mistaken impression that I could do morality missions and accumulate Alignment merits and trade them in for IO recipes without GR, just that I could not actually choose a different alignment.

Is that possible?
Everyone that posted above me is wrong. You can buy Alignment merits for 20 million inf + 50 reward merits from the hero or villain lounges. I know because of the whole Gamestop fiasco and not getting GR until the 25th. I was able to buy 2 alignment merits and I was able to use those alignment merits to get a LOTG +Recharge.




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
Everyone that posted above me is wrong. You can buy Alignment merits for 20 million inf + 50 reward merits from the hero or villain lounges.
Yeah but...
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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
Without GR you can't enter the Loyalty Lounges. If you can't enter the LLs, you can neither convert nor spend Alignment Merits.
You lose.


 

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Originally Posted by Silverado View Post
Yeah but...
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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
Without GR you can't enter the Loyalty Lounges. If you can't enter the LLs, you can neither convert nor spend Alignment Merits.
You lose.
Wrong due to reading failure on your part:
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I know because of the whole Gamestop fiasco and not getting GR until the 25th. I was able to buy 2 alignment merits and I was able to use those alignment merits to get a LOTG +Recharge.
I was able to buy a LOTG with alignment merits without owning Going Rogue.

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Fort Trident only checks to see if you are a hero. The Crucible only checks to see if you are a villain. If you are a vigilante or rogue, you can't enter either.




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I came across this thread, having the same question. I wanted to buy the recipes, but not go rogue.

I found that you can buy any recipe with regular Reward Merits - you just have to convert them into hero merits. Then you need the 20 million inf that was mentioned.

I like being able to do this, it gives me something to do with the reward merits besides random rolls for rare recipes.

However, considering the length of task forces, I think it's easier, faster and in a way cheaper to just buy the Purple IO recipe for the outrageous prices at Wentworths.

Just my 2 cents.


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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
Without GR you can't enter the Loyalty Lounges. If you can't enter the LLs, you can neither convert nor spend Alignment Merits.
Not true. Fort Trident came out on Monday. Going Rogue: Complete Collection became available for purchase on Tuesday. On Monday evening, I spent a few minutes exploring Fort Trident on one of my scrappers.


 

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Not true. Fort Trident came out on Monday. Going Rogue: Complete Collection became available for purchase on Tuesday. On Monday evening, I spent a few minutes exploring Fort Trident on one of my scrappers.
As far as I can recall, access to the forts is based on 'staying true'. Now, if you do not have GR, then there is no way for your character to switch sides, and are basically always 'true'.

<shrug>

Just a thought. I also thought that the Forts required GR, but obviously, that's not the case.


 

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... are they also outrageous prices when you're selling?
I would guess that many players don't sell purples. They envision themselves slotting multiple purple sets, probably on multiple characters, and expect to find a slot for every purple they ever see drop. Selling one they will eventually slot anyway means buying it back; either with the expectation that prices will fall or someone will make a glaring mistake -- and they're getting hit for market fees in the process.

I sold one or two purples early in my career specifically because I never envisioned being able to complete a set. Now that I can actually buy some purples, I find myself essentially unwilling to let any slip out of my grasp once they've dropped (surely I have an alt who can use THIS one!), except perhaps extra copies of some of the more obscure sets that typically don't sell for nearly as much anyway.

Hence, I suspect that a lot of players complaining about the cost of purples are trying to make their fortune selling less-desirable IOs and "trade up" to purples.

Don't count me among the ranks of those complaining. I understand all too keenly that demand and competition are gong to keep the most desirable items expensive. I just grin and bear it.


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Some of us don't bother with the expensive purple sets. I had a Ragnarok triple drop, so I crafted it and sold it for 275 mil. That character went from 20 mil to 270 mil. and can now afford many of the IOs he needs for his moderately priced build.

However, I like to pick up some of those "obscure" purple sets, Confuse, Immob, Stun and Hold, for my controllers. I suspect that the Sleep purple set will become more popular with the Electric Control powers.


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Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja View Post
As far as I can recall, access to the forts is based on 'staying true'. Now, if you do not have GR, then there is no way for your character to switch sides, and are basically always 'true'.

<shrug>

Just a thought. I also thought that the Forts required GR, but obviously, that's not the case.
Correct. GR is not required to enter. Also, there is no level restriction to enter. The ONLY requirement is that you need to be a full Hero/Villain to enter your appropriate "lounge".




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Thank you for posting this thread.

My question was slightly different, and I have already sent to Support for a reply. Please understand that I intend to buy the GR expansion as soon as I am able.

In the mean time, I thought I'd enjoy the new Issue-18 content. So, after spending several hours on a couple of characters running Alignment missions, I was ready to switch my Stalker to Rogue status. Imagine my surprise when I am informed that I must purchase the GR expansion, and they even give me a pop-up window to buy it on the spot.

Now, its all well and good if I need GR to change alignments. However, there is no mention in the Issue-18 patch notes that I must have GR to switch, and what's the point of having me run the new Tip content when I can't switch without it. Would have been nice to let me know when I tried to run the first Tip mission.

Seems a bit odd to title the Issue-18 update "Shades of Gray" when there's nothing gray about it. Just my two cents.




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Thank you for posting this thread.

My question was slightly different, and I have already sent to Support for a reply. Please understand that I intend to buy the GR expansion as soon as I am able.

In the mean time, I thought I'd enjoy the new Issue-18 content. So, after spending several hours on a couple of characters running Alignment missions, I was ready to switch my Stalker to Rogue status. Imagine my surprise when I am informed that I must purchase the GR expansion, and they even give me a pop-up window to buy it on the spot.

Now, its all well and good if I need GR to change alignments. However, there is no mention in the Issue-18 patch notes that I must have GR to switch, and what's the point of having me run the new Tip content when I can't switch without it. Would have been nice to let me know when I tried to run the first Tip mission.

Seems a bit odd to title the Issue-18 update "Shades of Gray" when there's nothing gray about it. Just my two cents.




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In the patch notes

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Issue 18: Shades of Gray / Going Rogue Patch Notes

Issue 18 and Going Rogue are upon us and unsurprisingly, we have huuuge patch notes ready for your reading pleasure!

Some of the main changes/improvements that will be available on the live servers will make your life much easier, such as the Market merge, the Pop help system and the Team Search revamping. Other additions will provide you with an infinitely more exciting game experience such as the Cathedral of Pain, and the Tip system for instance. If you've purchased Going Rogue, you'll get brand new zones to explore, new enemy factions to subjugate, new storylines to follow, and of course the possibility to redeem your villains or go rogue with your heroes.

Due to the sheer number of changes and new features being introduced with this update, we really recommend you familiarize yourselves with the Issue 18 as well as the Going Rogue patch notes, even if you haven't acquired Going Rogue yet. Some features implemented in Going Rogue will affect heroes and villains in Paragon city and the Rogue Isles regardless of whether you have the expansion or not.


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In the patch notes

Thank you for the post. I don't necessarily equate "If you've purchase . . . the possibility to redeem your villians . . " with must have. As I said, I have no problem with that being the case. It just would have been more straightforward to give me the pop-up reminder when I started my first Tip mission, instead of waiting until I spent hours on something that I really have no right to use.

The initial response I got from Support was to be passed to someone higher up. I suspect that I am not the only one a bit confused by my ability to access the Tip missions.

Well, hopefully I will acquire the funds soon to resolve this. Peace, and thanks for info.




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Originally Posted by Stormistress View Post
Seems a bit odd to title the Issue-18 update "Shades of Gray" when there's nothing gray about it. Just my two cents.
More like "Shades of Grey some of which you must have the expansion to see."

You can begin making the trek to grey, though, and can team with others that have gone grey. And heck, there's a group of Demons in every Wentworths in Paragon City now.