So, the epic question...


Catastrophe

 

Posted

Scrapper vs brute?? I want a fire/fire toon. Not sure which build. Ive never had a brute and not sure of the damage output. It will be moved to hero side asap. Just dont know which would be better to play. Any tips or advice would be nice. TYVM


 

Posted

Both are the best to play.

Scrappers are more focused on offense while Brutes have better survivability


 

Posted

Probably the biggest difference that you will see is that the brute survives a little better just because it has higher hit points.

I don't think there's anything AT-specific that makes either of those powersets better for one or the other.


@Roderick

 

Posted

Kewl. I wasnt sure if 1 done a noticable difference in power.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by eryq2 View Post
Scrapper vs brute?? I want a fire/fire toon. Not sure which build. Ive never had a brute and not sure of the damage output. It will be moved to hero side asap. Just dont know which would be better to play. Any tips or advice would be nice. TYVM
Awhile back, I wrote a piece in the Tankers forum called "I'm a Gazelle, Not a Gorilla". What that meant was I never felt comfortable playing Tankers or Brutes. In that piece, I mentioned that I was more of an "offensive" type of player versus someone who likes to draw the aggro and take a pounding but will most likely sacrifice offense over defense. My philosophy was get in and kill as fast as you can without taking too much damage. I didn't want to stand there for five minutes "key mashing" my way to a kill, even though I'm not taking much damage as a Tank or Brute. Because of this, I was also skeptical of ever trying a Scrapper build being that I always felt that Scrappers and Tankers went hand and hand. I even built a few Tankers only to delete them after about 20 levels because I just didn't like they way they played.

Well, about a month ago, I decided to pull the trigger on building my first Scrapper. I went with a Fire/Fire build. She is now level 41 and I have to say and to my surprise in team play and in solo play she is very fun to work with. With her primary Fiery Melee attacks in combo with her Fiery Aura powers, she is able to hold her own in battle very well. I would say the two biggest "keep me alive" type powers that I really could not do without are Consume and Healing Flames. Consume will suck the end from foes and Healing Flames does just that, heals you in that time of need. For Fiery Melee attacks, one of her more used powers is her Fire Sword Circle which gives a nice PBAoE for moderate damage.

I'm not bashing Tanks or Brutes here. I think it all comes down to your playing style. As I mentioned above, some people like to be the toon that draws all the aggro and is not necessarily concerned about doing a lot of offensive damage "quickly" as survivability and durability is more on their minds OR maybe you are more of that type of player who likes to go in for the kill, maybe have more quick offensive attacks at your hand and are not too concerned about taking some hits sacrificing defense, then maybe you should go Scrapper and try it out. I have also been the Tank substitute on some teams when we didn't have a Tank. That was fun, diving in the middle of a large group and whaling my Fiery Sword Circle around. It kind of gives you a little rush..heh...heh.







 

Posted

I <3 my Fire/ Brute very much, good attack chain.

The Brute option (IMO) opens the door to more possibilities. While Scrappers are merely The Diet Coke of Damage, Brutes can serve the same designation and/or "tank" fairly well with many secondaries.

/e waits for aggro'd Scrapperlocked players to attack


Pinnacle
@Mr.Catastrophe

 

Posted

For me the biggest difference between the two is that with Brutes there is always high pressure to move on to the next Mob to keep my Fury bar high, whereas with Scrappers I can keep a more leisurely pace if I want.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hy-Beams View Post
For me the biggest difference between the two is that with Brutes there is always high pressure to move on to the next Mob to keep my Fury bar high, whereas with Scrappers I can keep a more leisurely pace if I want.
If you're moving at a "leisurely pace", you ain't a real scrapper


 

Posted

And with the changes to Fury, your bar doesn't decrease as fast. So there's not as much frustration if you do need to pause for a moment to catch your breath or click a glowie.

I used to get so frustrated with brutes because I'd work hard to get my Fury bar up and by the time it got really high my endurance would be almost gone. So I'd have to stop (or slow down) and waste all that beautiful damage. That doesn't happen any more.


[SIZE=1][COLOR=Yellow][U]Virtue Heroes (Serenity's Children):[/U] [B]@Eek a Mouse, The Devil's Mark, Outlaw Sniper, Gas-Soaked Rag Man, Amazon Prime, Friday's Child, Hot Blooded,[/B][B]Flower of the Moon[/B], [B]Rouge Demon Hunter[/B], Stimulated Emission, Animatronic Wench, [B]Lennie Small[/B]
[U]Virtue Villains (Serenity's Orphans):[/U][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=Yellow] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Yellow] [B]Eek a Rat[/B], [B]Bomb Blondeshell[/B], Babe Brute, Jeanne Dark, Fallen Angle[/COLOR][/SIZE]

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by eryq2 View Post
Scrapper vs brute?? I want a fire/fire toon. Not sure which build. Ive never had a brute and not sure of the damage output. It will be moved to hero side asap. Just dont know which would be better to play. Any tips or advice would be nice. TYVM
Just make one of each. You know you're just going to farm them up to 50 within a day anyhow :-).

Helix


It's a dog's life/In a rope leash or a diamond collar...

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Xmas View Post
Scrapper lock, it's not a disease, it's a lifestyle.
Scrapperlock:Furylock::rock candy:rock cocaine


"Trust me, it worked in the Simpsons." - Calash

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhroX View Post
If you're moving at a "leisurely pace", you ain't a real scrapper
Or you have kids that constantly demand your attention.
I agree, scrappers are more leisurely in that regard.