Champion Amendment 2: Olive Branch

Recently a group of individuals sat down and talked about some issues in VENT and the general consenses is exactly what the title means...a fresh start or clean slate for the benefit of event organizers and everyone a part of Champion server. With the recent of events in channels and and other oraginzed activites it would benefit all at least for a short while to clean the air. The recent in game fighting in channels, events, and other organized parties we have isnt good for the server as a whole. It causes a rift amongst individuals, groups, sg's.

Recommending lifting bans on individuals for events, unignore individuals you have on ignore,(including mself I will unignore my 1 person i have on my list.), try to let bygons be bygons and let go of any bias or harsh feelings toward one another, and most of all respec on another's opinions, (if you Identify a problem be prepared to have a constructive solution).

Of course all of these ideals are just recommendations and totally up to each individual and whether or not they want to follow, it's their perogative. If you have any more ideals plz respond. Champion server has many Strong personalities with each common goal in mind, and thats to make the server better. If the peace last 1 week, 6 months, or not at all at least we can say most have tried. As a server we are better than any SG; we have community. So here is my Olive Branch im starting on a clean slate will you?

No offense, but I've heard this song before.

It took three days for Bud to blow it and rage out in BMT, which lead to one o' his accounts gettin' kicked.

I won't hold my breath.

I'll be happy to let bygones be bygones. However, just gonna say it's only gonna take one incident for me to get pissed off again.

You really had to edit to add more sarcasm to it? I just attempted to intervene a bit and encourage some humility and forgiveness on your part. Apparently you don't see yourself as being a contributing factor to any of the drama so I am moving on. Hate the whole Universe if it turns you on...

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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Azurean When you two are done decidin' what's good for us all, I'll be in game.

I really wanted the name "Nerd Rage" but it was already taken. So, I have "Interweb Nerd Rage" just because of the drama on the "Community" server.

Get over it people. This is a game. Devote some time and energy researching economics and history so you can be angry at those elected morons instead of other people here to play a game.

I dont get to play nearly as often as before, so when I do I want it to be fun. There are some people I will team with and some people I wont. Regardless, does it really matter?

Heck, I am even playing my fire tank again...

Ice Ember

It's not 'bout pride. It's not 'bout turnin' the other cheek just so I can have it slapped again.

It's 'bout the fact that he's said this before. And I don't care who posted it. I know who this is comin' from.

Be it a week, a month, two, when have you, this'll blow up again and nearly everyone will forget this was ever said.

Well, I don't forget.

And like I said, I won't hold my breath until I've seen ample evidence to the contrary.

Edit: Feel free to prove me wrong.

I like to think I am one of those people who can always get along with anyone; majority of the time I do. I always treat people the way I would like to be treated. Life is too short to hold a grudge, and this is just a game. If anyone needs anything or help I will do what I can for you. If this can make us all come closer together as a server I think it is a great idea.

Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
Kum bay ya, the Lord, kum bay ya;
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.

Someone's laughing, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's laughing, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's laughing, Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.

Someone's crying, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's crying, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's crying, Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.

Someone's praying, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's praying, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's praying, Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.

Someone's singing, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's singing, Lord, kum bay ya;
Someone's singing, Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.

Consider this a troll post if you like; I really would like to understand the psyche of the people involved however, it's fascinating in it's own way.

What could anyone possibly do to another player in this game to illicit the type of drama that seems to be so prevalent on Champion? I just don't get it. Even in heavy PvP games I have never had interactions that would make me upset enough to do or say things that would get an account banned or the like.

Perhaps I am just blind to the lack of emotional maturity some people have or something. I really just don't understand. How can you get so upset over playing a game like this? There is no money involved, like in Vegas for instance, there is no possibility of real life harm, as in sports.

So someone says something you don't like? Ignore them and move on with your fun time. Do these same people rage quit their jobs when the boss or a coworker mentions that they prefer a certain political party or disagree with the the way handled a client?

Based solely on reading the Champion server board, I will never set foot on the server because of the apparent lack of maturity that seems to run rampant amount the long time players there. I just don't get it.

*shrug* A lot of people either take it very seriously or have had their feelings hurt in one way or another. Just because the mature and reasonable thing to do would be to ignore it and move on, sometimes that's difficult for people depending on the attitudes and the circumstances involved.

As for not setting foot on the server because of what you've seen on the boards, well, that's your choice but I disagree. The boards aren't really representative of the server. Just the most vocal people looking for a place to discuss whatever is on their minds.

I'm certain you could play on Champion (or any other server, for that matter) and rarely, if ever, encounter the board/channel drama just playing and going about your business.

I've played on Champion for years now and have had many good experiences. Accept the bad as part of playing a MMO and the kind of people who tend to gravitate to them and move on. It's neither accurate nor reasonable to take the most vocal and/or unreasonable people of a group and say that the group as a whole isn't worth your time.

A man, the victim of a horrible, awful crime, once famously and very publically asked "Can't we all just get along?". The short answer is: No. And maybe that's a good thing.

Don't take that as a ******** remark, please. It's just the truth of the species. That same guy was also a habitual offender, and all around not a great role model. The context of the specific situation in which anything happens tends to get completely blown away once it's elevated to a large enough scale. And when it hits a level where one or two people have control over something important or desireable, then personality conflicts get dramatic.

I like Cobalt, a lot. I respect his efforts in helping everyone around him, and I think he does a great service to the community here at large. Would I run BMT the way he does? Lord no. But then, it's not my channel, not my rules, nor would it exist and work as well as it does if those things didn't come into play. Never forget, that channel exists because some people took over the public channel predecessor to it and made it impossible to function. BMT is Cobalt's channel - he made it for the rest of us. It's not something we're entitled to, it's something we're priviledged to belong to. Getting angry with him for not bending his rules is petulant and foolish. It might be different if he were trying to control something public, but he's not - just because we like BMT and use it extensively doesn't make it ours.

That said, I will say that while Bud and I don't frequently see eye to eye, and I can find the outbursts and blind knee-jerk reactions that sometimes come from that corner to be... distasteful, I can't lose sight of the fact that not only is my viewpoint not shared by everyone, but that in more than one case, that same ranting blowhard has committed his time and effort, and that of his SG (which means his *** is accountable to them for whatever issues may have come of it) to taking it on the chin for server efforts and events. And while whomever you want can jump up and down and claim that this motivation or that is the real reason for doing it, in the end, it really doesn't matter. It's helped, and considering that this game is supposed to be leisure time for us, isn't that what counts? Bud saved the day in a few situations where by neccessity no single contributor got credit for it. Lack of public acknowledgement makes those situations no less important, nor makes him no less a hell of a guy for coming through.

Both of these people have contributed more than enough for any number of others to spring to their defense, but the forums shouldn't be a place to lobby back and forth for one person or another to change their mind. If we were addressing the community at large, that would be one thing, or trying to organize something big, fine. This isn't that though - this is a small scale thing, grown huge because of the personal influence of the people involved. It's an understandable side-effect, but still not appropriate. Speaking as someone who's been accused of megalomania on this server on more than one occasion, and who has screwed up in similar fashion before, trust me - this is probably best worked out by the two specific people most directly affected, and no one else. If they just can't work it out, pushing for one side or the other to cave will probably just allow it to happen again later.

Fact is, if everyone "just got along" around here, no one would ever learn anything from anyone else. And there's a LOT to learn from the players on this server. Oh yes.

The drama on this server might not be understandable to people outside it, but keep in mind that dramatics aren't always the result of cries for attention - it's frequently the result of people who actually care about something they see as valuable. I'd prefer to play in a place like that personally - makes me feel like playing and having a good experience isn't just for me, it helps promote the same on a visceral level for others too. It's a good feeling, IMO.

I heard about the meeting and yes its a nice attemp to wash our hands of this drama but history has told us that its a tick tock until its would happen again. I had chance to let Cherry know why I had a issue with her and hopefully she understand how certain thing got played and why. I not here hate anyone or just start drama for no reason. I just like to defense my self and make sure I do in any manner I see fit. I really hope ego don't flair up because of PVP. I can agree with UC that treat people like how you would like to be treated. Let just try to stay away from talking behind people back and just enjoy this game. " ITS JUST A GAME" If you win you win and lose you lose so what! just come back and fight another day. To sum this up.... I down to let by gone be by this includes you KAT. Keep things fair and no bad mouthing others players espically when there not around. Im not saying that you have but this goes out to others players. That side I extend my hand and willing to drop the drama I have towards you guys.