New Shield Charge
is it still a minion killer?
Yep but you're more than likely to not get them all anymore.
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*Stands in the back ground in a black suit & tie sobbing over my brute*
You had a good run Man, you had a good run....
This change does not sadden me at all.
The Damage is still great and the fact that you even get a damage dealing power in a defense set is soooo nice. And finally, 150sec down to 90sec. So instead of using it every other fight, we can pop off every fight ? Excellent
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This change does not sadden me at all.
The Damage is still great and the fact that you even get a damage dealing power in a defense set is soooo nice. And finally, 150sec down to 90sec. So instead of using it every other fight, we can pop off every fight ? Excellent |
still reeks of awesome. Now if we can just let stalkers get their stealthy mitts on it we can crit it out of hide
*placates thread*
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I have just levelled a shield scrapper to 50 and am glad of the change. Shield Charge takes no skill and removes the fun for anyone in a team without it.
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I'm too lazy to check numbers myself (mornings....), so how does this compare to Lightning Rod now?
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I don't quite understand why Tanks are doing more damage than Brutes when Brutes are more Scrapper-like. I would have thought damage > least damge being Scrapper > Brute > Tank. *shrug* (I'm not a min-maxer really so I'm not that fussed just a tad puzzled.)
Have to agree with it not being fun teaming with a Shield Charger. Last time I did, I couldn't even get my blaster nuke off. SC'd every spawn. Nuke activation times too long.*
I'll still have fun with my little shield tank and brute I'm levelling though.
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I don't quite understand why Tanks are doing more damage than Brutes when Brutes are more Scrapper-like. I would have thought damage > least damge being Scrapper > Brute > Tank. *shrug* (I'm not a min-maxer really so I'm not that fussed just a tad puzzled.)
Have to agree with it not being fun teaming with a Shield Charger. Last time I did, I couldn't even get my blaster nuke off. SC'd every spawn. Nuke activation times too long.* I'll still have fun with my little shield tank and brute I'm levelling though. |
Brutes Base Damage is slightly lower than Tankers, because Brutes rely on Fury to raise it up.
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The change was needed, IMO. At least they kept the recharge the same. Shield is still an excellent set.
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At the moment Shield Charge is using pet damage cap, which is 200%, rather then fiddling with it over and over, why not lower the base damage to 75%, but remove the internal damage cap so it can go to the max allowed by the scrapper AT, individually, this would let you solo nicely, but mean that you would need very good enhancements to be as godlike as before, but also let team play boost your damage better as at the moment you only need to hit build up to cap the damage on Shield Charge and Lightening Rod.
Would also be nice to have a Lightening Rod animation change (or choice of 2 animantions) as electrical melee doesn't have any animations changes. It would be nice to have an animation so it looks like you are hitting the ground with your fist rather then punching the air.
Shields would still be a good set if Shield Charge was entirely removed and nothing replaced it, leaving the set short one power. :P
This looks pretty much like the near-mythical "rebalancing" instead of an outright "nerf." It looks pretty strong still, and a team with several Shield Chargers on it ought to still be absurdly hilarious.
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Personally I think that the Tank version should have been left alone. It is a tank primary verses a secondary for the others.
L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR
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Brutes Base Damage is slightly lower than Tankers, because Brutes rely on Fury to raise it up.
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1) Brutes get penalized on damage using it as an alpha strike/spawn breaker when they have no Fury vs a Tanker.
2) Shield Charge uses the pseudopet damage cap, which is 400% - so once both a Brute and Tanker are at 400% the Tanker version is doing more damage (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this).
I still have a few problems with this.
1) Brutes get penalized on damage using it as an alpha strike/spawn breaker when they have no Fury vs a Tanker. 2) Shield Charge uses the pseudopet damage cap, which is 400% - so once both a Brute and Tanker are at 400% the Tanker version is doing more damage (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this). |
1) Yes. That's the downside of being a Brute, from cold you start with crap damage. Same as if my Stone Brute used Seismic Smash "from cold"
2) Yes, but does it really matter that much? It's an outlier situation and Lightning Rod falls into the same trap. At least Shield Charge is an armour set so it's somewhat less "wrong" than LR given that Tanks are meant to be Armour specialists.
Shields have always been slightly less awesome on Brutes than Tanks or Scrappers for various reasons. Some proliferated sets suit one AT over another. Tis the nature of the beast.
The day has come my fellow shield wielding companions that we can no longer nuke an entire spawn into glorious oblivion. I would like to take this time for a moment of silence as we weep the passing of such a righteously awesome power that gods themselves would so rightly approve of.
With that said here are the changes to Shield Charge
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