I'm shooting for a 3 round no retreat for Wednesday as well. At the moment I need leaders for all teams. If you're up for it either say so here or shoot me a tell in game.
Also, please get nukes (Chem and Bio and pet (Shivans and Vanguard Heavies). If all goes well, I'll look at when I can run a 2 round no retreat. But I need a bit more time to get myself organized. 
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There isnt any huge difference between 3 round and 2 round, just really encourage people to get and use the temps and make sure the tanks are set up in time. Just go for it if that is what you want to do.
I haven't been going to the Hammy raids lately for no particular reason.
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Hmm, I'll try to go Vigan with my tank by Thursday. Mon and Wed nights are so hard for me to get on unless I plan ahead for it. If not, my scr is already wandering around the Isles and back you up.
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Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
Ok, I may be crazy, but I'm going to attempt a no retreat, 3R Hami tonight. This has been my ultimate goal anyway, so we may as well go for it.
I'm also going to lead my first villain raid on Thursday. With my Scrapper. >.> |
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If you're started to edge on 2r, why not just zerg it?
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2R and Zerg are not my goals, but I can't speak for others who lead raids. Monday's raid is exactly what I've been wanting - NR3R (cause we need more abbreviations, right?). It went even better than I had hoped for, and I think it's entirely possible to keep doing them this way. |
Originally Posted by enrious2
If you're started to edge on 2r, why not just zerg it?
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I am not against 2R and Zergging, but I do have concerns about them. With the NR3R, it works just fine if 3 - 5 people bring the helpful temp powers - nukes and pets. 2R would require more, and all out Zergging would require significantly more. And personally, I get a little twitchy when the success of a raid depends on that many people to go the extra mile, especially given the number of nukes at 3R raids I've witnessed lately. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it would take the dedication of a LOT of people to pull off.
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Enri, yeah, zerging is real tempting, but Id like a bit more time to beat the wardrum and to encourage people to get the temp pets and nukes.|
Originally Posted by enrious2
If you're started to edge on 2r, why not just zerg it?
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Quartermain, I hear what youre saying and have been thinking the same thing. Ill see how it goes today at work and see if Im up to trying the 2 rounder tonight (sometimes Im literally walking in the door and jumping on the computer to make the raid time). ATM Im still planning a no retreat 3 round raid.
Regarding a 2 rounder vrs zerging, is basically less mitos to deal with (only 2 spawns). The last all out zerg I was involved in the aggro from four Yellows and a mixture of Blues and Greens combined took the tanks out before Hami dropped. Granted, I believe this was with the "Super Greens" in effect (so there might have been more going on than with a typical zerg), but I'm a bit hesitant to try an all out zerg without better planning, organization and until Im feeling a little more comfortable with that kind of raid. Although, there will be the day when I lead one.
So, for tonight, Ill look at doing a 3 round no retreat and see what thats like. Ill try to get a nuke/pet count after the monster hunt. Depending on the result, I may decide on a 2 rounder at that time.
** Just to clarify terms so were all on the same page, Im using zerging as all out rush to Hami w/o taking out any mitos/mito waves.
I still need team leaders and would like a Hami aggro Tank, so I can concentrate on the leading the raid and not my health bar. Please, let me know if youre up for leading a team or Tanking Hami.
See you all in the Hive!
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I can lead Scrappers for you tonight Boss. I already have the temp powers.
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I can hami aggro if you still need.
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Thank you both, Arwen, you've got Yellow Kill Lead and enri Hami Taunt is all yours!
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Rangle's right....this is fun.
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No probelm Rangle, enri took the roll of hami bait for me tonight. Hope to see you raiding again soon.
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So, based on what happened (or more accurately, didn't happen) at Tuesday's Villain raid, I decided to not do on Thursday night. I think it may be too soon after a new release to try one, and I know a lot of people have their characters doing all sorts of fun side switching right now.
So some time in the Fall, I'll pick up a villain raid here and there too.
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Some of us surmised that it's not so much all the new shinies in GR (as hero raid turnouts have still been high and people have been showing up early) as it is the fact that blue raids are quite simply easier, and the merged markets/cross-faction emailing means you can just send your blueside Hami-O's to your villains.
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I keep meaning to work on my red side toons, or even get enough time to figure out who make a vigilante, all I need is a few more hours in the day....
Regarding last night's Blue side raid, I think we found the minimum number of Nukes required for a 3rnr raid. From the attempted nose count prior to hitting the goo, we had approx 3-4 Chems and Bios, a few Nuke-nukes, about 6 Shivans (from what I saw in the goo) and about then same number of HVACs (maybe a few more). Please let me know if anyone got a different count.
Hami's bar seemed to crawl at times and he actually was able to regen a few times, not sure what happened there... As I'm looking to improve my raid leading skillz, any insights, thoughts, ideas or comments would be appreciated.
As always, it was great fun, see you all in the Hive!
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Also there are fewer people red side, and there have been historically fewer people showing up. With the same level of "advertising" as a blue raid, on short notice, you aren't going to get much of a turn out. |
Originally Posted by macskull
Some of us surmised that it's not so much all the new shinies in GR (as hero raid turnouts have still been high and people have been showing up early) as it is the fact that blue raids are quite simply easier, and the merged markets/cross-faction emailing means you can just send your blueside Hami-O's to your villains.
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You do have to put out some work if you want a red raid to start anywherenear on time in the best of times, imo.
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Grats on your first time pulling off no retreat.
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That was my thinking as well: why to bother with red side raids if you can do blue side much more easily and mail your goods around. I think, i18 spelled death ( or near-death ) to red side hamis
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Originally Posted by macskull
Some of us surmised that it's not so much all the new shinies in GR (as hero raid turnouts have still been high and people have been showing up early) as it is the fact that blue raids are quite simply easier, and the merged markets/cross-faction emailing means you can just send your blueside Hami-O's to your villains.
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Thanks Quartermain, it was fun.
I was wondering about the debuffing myself, thought I had called for the -reg twice, maybe I'll change the call to "Debuffs on Hami" and "Keep up the -Reg".
How many people did we have actually hitting Hami, anyone get a rough count?
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Some of us do them for the merits, though, and those aren't tradeable.
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Originally Posted by macskull
Some of us surmised that it's not so much all the new shinies in GR (as hero raid turnouts have still been high and people have been showing up early) as it is the fact that blue raids are quite simply easier, and the merged markets/cross-faction emailing means you can just send your blueside Hami-O's to your villains.
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I agree with u arwen i was doing it for hami's but lately been doing it for merits.
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Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
Some of us do them for the merits, though, and those aren't tradeable.
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This game is hard!
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Originally Posted by NordBlast
That was my thinking as well: why to bother with red side raids if you can do blue side much more easily and mail your goods around. I think, i18 spelled death ( or near-death ) to red side hamis
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What you spend those merits on is, though.
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Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
Some of us do them for the merits, though, and those aren't tradeable.
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Yeah, this. I always take merits rather than the Hami-O (I take the Hami-O on the RSF, but that's because the merit reward is piddly for the time spent), but when I can take those 53 merits, convert them into an alignment merit, and send the 5 random rolls I get to whatever character(s) I want, there's little incentive to do redside raids.|
Originally Posted by enrious2
What you spend those merits on is, though.
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It's unfortunate, really, because while redside raids take a bit more pre-planning and advance notice, and more coordination and effort, the tradeoff is that a standard redside raid can be finished faster than a standard blueside raid simply because there's lots more damage flying around. I like redside raids because individual effort and competency goes a lot farther than it does on blueside raids, but at the same time I realize the reason most people go to Hami raids is for merits, and now that those are essentially cross-faction...
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And so is the extra damage.
I want to thank everyone for doing such a great job tonight! It went even better than I hoped, and I really appreciate everyone who went the extra step to bring nukes and temp pets. You all are great!
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