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No it is awful of the devs to give people who pre-purchased very little time to beta test it. I would like to be able have input in GR, but at this point all the features are locked and probably 95% of the bugs are squashed. I also will never pre-purchase from them again.
So you want to play an unbalanced, buggy game? Spending time playing, running into problems, trying to duplicate them and reporting them? That's a good attitude! That being said, the need for that type of activity is the WORST thing to be going during a marketing beta which is what pre-buyers/pre-order folks usually get.

"Real" beta - going through the game, finding bugs, imbalances, etc. Basically its kinda crappy. But you want to contribute to that, so that's good. Generally these have applications to fill out (demographics, computer specifications, etc) and NDAs to abide by. You might get invited if you play another game by the same company and meet whatever criteria the company has.

"Marketing" beta - the "almost, if not practically ready for release" beta that some folks think betas are like. These are the "pre-order now and get into beta!" betas that places like Gamestop use to get you to buy from them. Pretty much all the real work is done already, there's no NDA (or it's going to drop very soon), etc. Basically an open beta being used as a carrot for pre-orders.


 

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It also means finding bugs and breaking stuff legitimately...
Yep. Although I'm sure there are people who want in (not saying anyone here does) to try and stay ahead of exploit fixes and to find the next round of exploits for them to use on the live servers, too


 

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Yep. Although I'm sure there are people who want in (not saying anyone here does) to try and stay ahead of exploit fixes and to find the next round of exploits for them to use on the live servers, too
Yea, but at the least there are those who find AND report them.


 

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No it is awful of the devs to give people who pre-purchased very little time to beta test it. I would like to be able have input in GR, but at this point all the features are locked and probably 95% of the bugs are squashed. I also will never pre-purchase from them again.
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Sounds like a good slogan. Even if you make a goof like changing mid-stream from a Pre-Order plan to a Pre-Purchase plan, when players repeatedly ask for clarification about how it's going to affect your previously stated Beta Tiers just give them an answer. Publicly, just like the previously stated Beta Tiers announcement. That way you don't cause continual problems like this one.
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I wasn't aware beta access was part of prepurchase. Could someone show me where this was offered?


 

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Im sorry guys as much as i want in Closed Beta, no where did it say when i Pre-purchased months ago that it would get me into beta, I know Loyal members and Vets might get in but I wasn't expecting it this way. Only thing I really want to know is what time of the day on the 17th will we start playing GR? Will it be 12midnight eastern or 12 midnight PST , Im hoping eastern cause 12PST would suck lol


 

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Only thing I really want to know is what time of the day on the 17th will we start playing GR? Will it be 12midnight eastern or 12 midnight PST , Im hoping eastern cause 12PST would suck lol
It will be after the maintence window on the 17th. So guess somewhere around noon-2pm EST, barring some major issue with the update.



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I wasn't aware beta access was part of prepurchase. Could someone show me where this was offered?
I was under the impression it was. Not sure why, but obviously I'm not the only one. Personally I don't care either way because I don't want to beta test and if I really wanted the info there are places to get it.

But if this many people are thinking they were supposed to get beta access, then that more than likely means there was a communication error at some point and it should be corrected by some official statement. To not clear this up and just have people keep starting threads means somebody(or more likely several people) isn't doing their job very well.


 

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Going Rogue Closed Beta Access will be granted using a three-tier system:
  • Tier One: City of Heroes Veterans with 60+ months of paid time.
  • Tier Two: Loyalty Program players
  • Tier Three: Players who Pre-Order Going Rogue (Preorder details to be announced at a later date)
Badges will be enabled within one week after the promotional period has ended.
Yeah I realize preorder and prepurchase are different, but whoever is in charge of this stuff dropped the ball. And to not let people know exactly what is going on at this point is nothing short of pure incompetence on somebodies part.


 

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I think this is what caused the confusion:

Yeah I realize preorder and prepurchase are different, but whoever is in charge of this stuff dropped the ball. And to not let people know exactly what is going on at this point is nothing short of pure incompetence on somebodies part.
Now I feel kind of dumb for asking this but... What exactly is the difference. How do I pre-order vs. pre-purchase? Does pre-order mean I need to go down to my local game store and reserve an ordered copy of Going Rogue? Was there a way to pre-order it over the NC store?
I feel stupid for asking but I'm serious, I'm having trouble seeing a difference.


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Now I feel kind of dumb for asking this but... What exactly is the difference. How do I pre-order vs. pre-purchase? Does pre-order mean I need to go down to my local game store and reserve an ordered copy of Going Rogue? Was there a way to pre-order it over the NC store?
I feel stupid for asking but I'm serious, I'm having trouble seeing a difference.
Basically prepurchase means you bought it and own it already. Like buying form teh NCSoft store. The code is applied to your account.

Pre-order is if you reserve a copy from Gamestop. You don't actually own the game until you get it on release day.


 

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The question is: do both get beta?


 

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Basically prepurchase means you bought it and own it already. Like buying form teh NCSoft store. The code is applied to your account.

Pre-order is if you reserve a copy from Gamestop. You don't actually own the game until you get it on release day.
Thank you for clarifying that.

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The question is: do both get beta?
Depends, do you believe more in the Devs being fair, or in Gamestop's ability to monopolize exclusives from game developers to get people to buy from them?


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City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

 

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Thank you for clarifying that.



Depends, do you believe more in the Devs being fair, or in Gamestop's ability to monopolize exclusives from game developers to get people to buy from them?
Except it's not just gamestop >.>


 

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It will be after the maintence window on the 17th. So guess somewhere around noon-2pm EST, barring some major issue with the update.
Why would they wait till then to do that if it will be on store shelves on the morning of that Tuesday? That would make no sense at all. Is there someplace you can point me to with that information. It is just hard to believe they would do this on the day of a release so big to them and the community.


 

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Why would they wait till then to do that if it will be on store shelves on the morning of that Tuesday? That would make no sense at all. Is there someplace you can point me to with that information. It is just hard to believe they would do this on the day of a release so big to them and the community.
Possible delays?

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I think this is what caused the confusion:



Yeah I realize preorder and prepurchase are different, but whoever is in charge of this stuff dropped the ball. And to not let people know exactly what is going on at this point is nothing short of pure incompetence on somebodies part.
Posts like this give me hope that the forums are not full of ********


 

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Look at it this way; with those 4 pre-purchases you got a chance to be snarky on the forums.
Fortunately, being wrong is free.


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Hmn...
Pre-Purchase
Pre-Order
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Im no genius, but even I see the difference there. *shrug*
Me, I brought it as soon as it was up for pre-purchase, Beta be damned, I would rather have the pistols and demons naow


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Posts like this give me hope that the forums are not full of ********
Then where is my +rep?


 

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Dont forget that you also need to be in good standing... If you are ebil and just making trouble on game and/or forum, chances are you are not on good standing...
Hmmm, I'm prolly skrood, then. 2/3 of my characters are villains, and all but maybe 1 or 2 of them are NOT headed for lolredemption when GR goes live.


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Fortunately, being wrong is free.
Lol, especially after today's announcement. Stoney has a history... nevermind.


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