I did have a small chat Amy and my idea on this. I considered using stuns instead of holds on the green mitos which should still drop his shield. My idea was to use 3-4 Dark/Energy tanks to lay down rapid stuns on the greens. Between the stun aura from dark and the stuns from energy and the much lower stun protection the greens have I believe it'd be easier way to go...you just have to find 3-4 Dark/Energy tanks... just tossing out an idea.
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Originally Posted by Horusaurus
I did have a small chat Amy and my idea on this. I considered using stuns instead of holds on the green mitos which should still drop his shield. My idea was to use 3-4 Dark/Energy tanks to lay down rapid stuns on the greens. Between the stun aura from dark and the stuns from energy and the much lower stun protection the greens have I believe it'd be easier way to go...you just have to find 3-4 Dark/Energy tanks... just tossing out an idea.
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How much stun protection do the Greens have?
It's certainly interesting to think about. People use holds to take out the Greens but it's not like Controllers/Doms have ST stuns they can spam, just holds.
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Hmm, we'll need to try this out with a combination of Dark and EM tankers, since I would bet that finding that many Dark/EM is near impossible.
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Originally Posted by Horusaurus
I did have a small chat Amy and my idea on this. I considered using stuns instead of holds on the green mitos which should still drop his shield. My idea was to use 3-4 Dark/Energy tanks to lay down rapid stuns on the greens. Between the stun aura from dark and the stuns from energy and the much lower stun protection the greens have I believe it'd be easier way to go...you just have to find 3-4 Dark/Energy tanks... just tossing out an idea.
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That's a really clever idea and could still work with non DA Tanks as long as they're /EM, you'd just need more.
How much stun protection do the Greens have? It's certainly interesting to think about. People use holds to take out the Greens but it's not like Controllers/Doms have ST stuns they can spam, just holds. |
Since Horus mentioned the idea to me, I've tried to revisit some old guides to see if there was any mention of using other mez powers. They all pretty much say "must be held to deactivate resistance and regen".
But like you say, this might be a product of what is most available to spam rather than what actually could work. Stuns should also deactivate running toggle powers, so you'd think they would be viable.
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Stuns should also deactivate running toggle powers, so you'd think they would be viable.
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So if stuns work so well why didn't you get a better effect from that little black dress? Weren't you simply stunning?
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In that case, if we're going to try out the stun aspect, I also have a Shields/EM that we can use for this.
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Apparently they have mag 30 stun protection vs 50 for hold protection, and 50% stun resistance.
Since Horus mentioned the idea to me, I've tried to revisit some old guides to see if there was any mention of using other mez powers. They all pretty much say "must be held to deactivate resistance and regen". But like you say, this might be a product of what is most available to spam rather than what actually could work. Stuns should also deactivate running toggle powers, so you'd think they would be viable. |
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I don't think Hamidon has the right biology to be affected by things like that.
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So if stuns work so well why didn't you get a better effect from that little black dress? Weren't you simply stunning?
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I don't think Hamidon has the right biology to be affected by things like that.
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I'll bring my lil' blue dress.
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Regarding the direction of Hami's blasts, you need KB protection to not get thrown around by it, I think it's some thing like 12+ (iirc 10 is enough for Yellow Mito Blasts, but Hami hits a little harder). So, I'm not sure that you could get enough KB protection on most Tanks capable of Flight/Hover w/o Acrobatics or additional IO enhancements. Just a nitpick, but if the attempt to direct Hami's blasts (other than at the ground) are made the Tank will need to be maneuverable.|
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Nukes, Shivans and Vanguard Heavies would be a big help, and you could possibly cut the number of "rounds" down to 3 (almost for sure) and maybe even 2.
Just a thought, with a bunch of Tankers meleeing with the Yellows, Gauntlet could strip aggro from the taunting Tank resulting in random blasts from the mito. With an all Tank raid this might not be a big deal, but is something to be aware of.
Green Mitos, hold vs stunned, an interesting idea, havent' seen it tried but would like to know the results you get.
Are you going to try this on the test server first, or live? In either case, please let me know as I would love to participate.
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Regarding the direction of Hami's blasts, you need KB protection to not get thrown around by it, I think it's some thing like 12+ (iirc 10 is enough for Yellow Mito Blasts, but Hami hits a little harder). So, I'm not sure that you could get enough KB protection on most Tanks capable of Flight/Hover w/o Acrobatics or additional IO enhancements.
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I'll admit it's been years since I've used Hover while tanking, at that time you still got Knockedback. I take it it's changed since then? Before it was KB + twirl, now it's just twirl? Just looking for clarification.
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I'll admit it's been years since I've used Hover while tanking, at that time you still got Knockedback. I take it it's changed since then? Before it was KB + twirl, now it's just twirl? Just looking for clarification.
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Edit: I should clarify my thoughts on this. While I think its a neat idea (especially because of utilising the invisi-Mito-platforms) it's not going to work. I don't think trying to reinvent the wheel is the best way to go about this.
Now, if I'm wrong and Hami can damage the Mitos without being confused or vice versa I shall locate my nearest chapeau and consume it post haste.
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