Daredevil Reboot with Jason Statham?
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Posted on: 2010-07-31 24:54 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
You realize this was an article from 2008, yes?
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I think Frank Miller's opinion regarding movies adapted from comics lost all weight with his directorial debut on the Spirit movie...
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... yeah.... this. I actually felt sorry for Lewis over at TGWTG for having to sit through it. Didn't really feel sorry for that Film Brain guy.
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Originally Posted by Hazmatter
I think Frank Miller's opinion regarding movies adapted from comics lost all weight with his directorial debut on the Spirit movie...
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Didn't Frank Miller write some of the best Daredevil stories during the era he was writing?
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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
You realize this was an article from 2008, yes?
-np |
Never mind.
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oh, Frank Miller CAN write. e.g. Dark Knight. |
Originally Posted by ShoNuff
Didn't Frank Miller write some of the best Daredevil stories during the era he was writing?
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It's more of he has descended into some form of insanity since those days.
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Frank Miller has basically decided that since comic book storytelling and perhaps the industry itself hasn't gone the way he wanted it to, it's his duty to completely undermine the medium by producing some of the most god-awful, ****** up comics as he can.
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Originally Posted by ShoNuff
Didn't Frank Miller write some of the best Daredevil stories during the era he was writing?
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But he'd be a hell of a lot more fun to watch as DD than Affleck...
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Originally Posted by Smersh
But he'd be a hell of a lot more fun to watch as DD than Affleck...
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We've seen that Affleck can act, but the creative team behind Daredevil certainly didn't help.
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I'm not talking about acting, I'm talking about butt-kicking. Statham's in another league than Affleck, there.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Eh, he worked with what he had.
We've seen that Affleck can act, but the creative team behind Daredevil certainly didn't help. |
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Well, again, it really doesn't help that Mark Steven Johnson hasn't really proven himself as a capable action director, judging from his work on Daredevil and Ghost Rider.|
Originally Posted by Smersh
I'm not talking about acting, I'm talking about butt-kicking. Statham's in another league than Affleck, there.
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And really a lot of good movie action work is rooted in the directing and editing. You could make anybody look like a badass if you shoot and cut it right.
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Frank Miller was a great writer, but film was never his forte. I mean, you all remember what a tragedy Robocop 2 was?
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Originally Posted by ShoNuff
Didn't Frank Miller write some of the best Daredevil stories during the era he was writing?
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Talent in one area doesn't always translate into talent in other areas. Even when the areas are similar such as comics, novels and screenwriting. Stephen King, for example, writes horrible screenplays, though when others take his work and translate it, it can turn out quite well.
Anyhow, the only Daredevil move I want to see is one where he fights the Punisher.
Could somebody please itemize their grievances against The Spirit, because I thought it was hilarious. Sure, it didn't really have all that much to do with Will Eisner's version, but it seemed to poke fun at the very style of writing that Frank Miller helped pioneer.
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AFAIK from my comic dealer, yes. Frank Miller wrote some of the best DD during the time, which would change the way he went since then.|
Originally Posted by ShoNuff
Didn't Frank Miller write some of the best Daredevil stories during the era he was writing?
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Originally Posted by That_Ninja
Frank Miller was a great writer, but film was never his forte. I mean, you all remember what a tragedy Robocop 2 was?
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
However, Miller's script was labeled "unfilmable" by producers and studio executives. His script was heavily changed through rewrites, and drastically re-written into what became RoboCop 2.
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I'm with you. I spent the first 15 minutes of the film thinking . . . "This SUCKS!" . . . and then I got it. It was an extreme campy over-the-top film in the same vein as the old Flash Gordon movie and the 60's TV version of Batman. In other words, it was INTENTIONALLY stupid. At that point, I laughed my way through the rest of the movie. I thought it was hilarious, too.|
Originally Posted by Manofmanychars
Could somebody please itemize their grievances against The Spirit, because I thought it was hilarious. Sure, it didn't really have all that much to do with Will Eisner's version, but it seemed to poke fun at the very style of writing that Frank Miller helped pioneer.
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I mean, how can you not laugh at Samuel L. Jackson in a Nazi outfit for no particular reason? Other than to show that he is the worst of the worst? Ever seen "The Producers"? The play produced, "Springtime for Hitler" was making fun of Nazis through the campiness. Same kind of thing.
My favorite line? Early in the film, during the first big fight . . . the Octopus hits Spirit with a toilet and says, "Toilets are ALWAYS funny!"
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Not really offering a personal take on the film at this time, since I saw it when I was half-asleep and didn't really pay too much attention to it, but I think some folks might have been more kind to the film had it not be based on the baby of Will Eisner aka the father of comic books. If Miller had done the same kind of film but without that particular established IP, then perhaps it might have been more well-received. Then again, maybe not.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I'm with you. I spent the first 15 minutes of the film thinking . . . "This SUCKS!" . . . and then I got it. It was an extreme campy over-the-top film in the same vein as the old Flash Gordon movie and the 60's TV version of Batman. In other words, it was INTENTIONALLY stupid. At that point, I laughed my way through the rest of the movie. I thought it was hilarious, too.
I mean, how can you not laugh at Samuel L. Jackson in a Nazi outfit for no particular reason? Other than to show that he is the worst of the worst? Ever seen "The Producers"? The play produced, "Springtime for Hitler" was making fun of Nazis through the campiness. Same kind of thing. My favorite line? Early in the film, during the first big fight . . . the Octopus hits Spirit with a toilet and says, "Toilets are ALWAYS funny!" |
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The only reason Daredevil has been relevant since 1979 is Frank Miller. Everyone since then has told stories with the 'toys' he left behind.|
Originally Posted by ShoNuff
Didn't Frank Miller write some of the best Daredevil stories during the era he was writing?
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That said, I am not sure he is the best script writer out there....
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Yes, but all of Statham's movies are just as bad, if not worse, than Daredevil was.
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Originally Posted by Smersh
I'm not talking about acting, I'm talking about butt-kicking. Statham's in another league than Affleck, there.
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Even the Guy Ritchie movies?|
Originally Posted by Comeuppance
Yes, but all of Statham's movies are just as bad, if not worse, than Daredevil was.
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I really liked those.
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Originally Posted by Comeuppance
Yes, but all of Statham's movies are just as bad, if not worse, than Daredevil was.
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Case in point - Snatch
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Jason Statham wants to play Daredevil, and Frank Miller agrees!
Can the guy do an American accent? We know he could handle the action, but how about the scenes as Matt Murdock, the lawyer?
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