Blueside Hami Raid Poll


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Bam, Marut wins again.
Flawless Victory!


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Just raid, people Have fun, get it done. Support anyone that steps up, trained or not, and just make them happen if you want the toys. But don’t get stuck on how. It’s not all that important, and I doubt it will matter at all in a bit. You might want to collect on the rewards while they’re still easy though

-M
Marut - We were raidin'. We were havin' fun and gettin' it done, except for the few occasions where people weren't playin' well with others. Except for Cherry, Angie, Fanged, Tommy, Trevs, and Llew, out o' all the people showed, next to no one stepped up despite numerous attempts and offers to get others to do so. And since we've tweaked the strat that Champion currently adopts along the way over the last year, we aren't stuck on how to go 'bout it. To further illustrate my last point, I even discussed potentially usin' Hami's own untyped attack against it's typed defense mitos.
Nothin' really ground-breakin' in the history lesson, and all the post really provided the thread was an oppurtunity for everyone who was tired o' the drama to stop at a unspoken, yet mutually agreed upon point.



Aaand I think I'm about done with this thread.


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This thread started out innocently enough and has turned into such ugliness that anyone that had wanted to step up and give it a shot at leading, wont, due to all the petty bickering...

Granted, it's Champion, and thats what we're known for.. but still.. even that excuse, IMO is wearing thin.. we dont always have to live up to our rep as the Drama Server.

This.


Steel, for wanting to avoid drama, you certainly have done a good bit to produce and invite it.


Anyone up for a raid tonight? 8:30 Pacific? It's just the perfect thing to send all you east coasters to bed happy.


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This.


Steel, for wanting to avoid drama, you certainly have done a good bit to produce and invite it.


Anyone up for a raid tonight? 8:30 Pacific? It's just the perfect thing to send all you east coasters to bed happy.
Yeah, I'm in.


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Ultimately it was my leadership, and it failed, and i do take responsibility for it.. but, to say it was due to my lack of exp/leadership is kind of insulting

Not sure if this was the same raid, but I remember we failed because half way through the raid about a dozen characters left and we didn't have enough holds left to complete the raid.

And also, if I remember, when Cherry DC'd, other leaders DID step in and direct the raid until Cherry came back.

I point this out only because I don't see how this was your fault other than you being the leader, you are just taking responsibility for not leading a successful raid.


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This.


Steel, for wanting to avoid drama, you certainly have done a good bit to produce and invite it.


Anyone up for a raid tonight? 8:30 Pacific? It's just the perfect thing to send all you east coasters to bed happy.
That's way too late for me, but I wish you the best of luck!


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That's way too late for me, but I wish you the best of luck!
Ditto. Good luck and what not.


I'll always be a "Champion" at heart. My server away from home.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

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If your serious i'll lead the Range team tonight, lots of time after the RWZ raid.


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I'll take a team as well if you haven't already delegated those out.


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This.


Steel, for wanting to avoid drama, you certainly have done a good bit to produce and invite it.


Anyone up for a raid tonight? 8:30 Pacific? It's just the perfect thing to send all you east coasters to bed happy.
Peterbilt, I believe you may have the chronology of incidents mixed up a bit. My speaking up in any medium where incorrect information has been shared (in an event i've experienced personally) is not an attempt to incite drama. After addressing ONE poster, I was subjected to responding to others that were not mentioned in my initial note.

If you intend to address anyone it should be them - let it go. Nothing has been taken personally on my end - I cannot vouch for others.

Have a great raid everyone.

_All the best.


 

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Anyone up for a raid tonight? 8:30 Pacific? It's just the perfect thing to send all you east coasters to bed happy.




Now see what I did? I'll have to try my best to get on and play tonight.

As far as teams, I've never paid enough attention to the whole thing to actually run it so someone will have to setp into that role. (Also, I still don't have vent and maybe that isn't critical, it sure sounds like it would be helpful.) (And I guess if all it takes to run a raid is to say, "Hami Taunt, go", etc, then I could run is, but I someone doubt it is that easy.)

It appears there is interest. Is there enough, we'll have to find out tonight. I'll volunteer for yellow taunt as I think I know how that team goes and can even describe what everyone needs to do.

So I'll see whomever tonight and lets go kick some goo.


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if you, and whoever else, would like to use my sg's vent just let me know.


 

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steel, this is a perfect example.

anyways..

im over this subject.. its frustrating and stupid and has been a total waste of time..

peace, love, & granola.
Just Stop! OK? ...Really. Let's get back to fun - everyone can have their issues and misconceptions and whatever - WHO CARES! I certainly don't pay $14.99 times X accounts to have to deal with nonsense on boards. Just chill! Stop making things more than what they are or are intended to be. Jeez.

_back to fun!

_Game ON!


 

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um. i said that 5 hours ago, and youve posted since then.


 

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Stop! ok?
All a comment like this has ever done is fuel the fire and anger someone into posting again. Which you already know.


But on a lighter note. LOOK HOW LOUD I HAVE TO TYPE


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There is alot of respect floating around for the people who have taken the time to lead community events. Which includes you Steel, as well as Cherry. No one is ever going to whole heatedly agree that yes you are better than me oh all powerful one. So the posting continues and the subtle and not so subtle bashing never ends.

It is always nice to see constructive arguing without any sly "you suck 'n stuff but I won't type that exactly".


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As far as teams, I've never paid enough attention to the whole thing to actually run it so someone will have to setp into that role. (Also, I still don't have vent and maybe that isn't critical, it sure sounds like it would be helpful.) (And I guess if all it takes to run a raid is to say, "Hami Taunt, go", etc, then I could run is, but I someone doubt it is that easy.)
Here's a rough outline of the teams you'll need:

1. Hami Taunt
- Usually use 1 Tank, all Emps in zone add said Tank to Friends list, keep them AB'd throughout the raid. Add Emps on this team to taste.

2. Yellow Taunt
- Ideally 6 Tanks, 1 per yellow mito. Add Emps to taste.

3. Yellow Assault
- Scrappers +/- Emps

4. Blue Assault
- Blasters

5. Green Assault
- Can be several teams (2-3 depending on how many show up). One team should focus on Controllers for holds, the other teams can be any damage (Blasters, Defenders, Tanks, Scrappers, etc.)

General Raid Procedure

1. Form up teams
2. Defeat monsters for EoEs and spawn Hami
3. Gather at safe rock, allow time for team leaders to go over each team's role/questions/assign yellow taunt targets
4. Call for buffs: Single Target Buffs, ABs on Hami Tank, RAs
5. Call in teams: Hami Taunter, Yellow Taunt, Assault Teams (once aggro is controlled)
6. Clear mitos: Yellow Assault attacks yellow mitos, Blue Assault attacks blue mitos, Green Assault teams attack green mitos in a clockwise fashion until they are defeated. Start with the closest of each respective mito to safe rock for convenience.
7. Defeat Hami to 75% (35340 of 47120 total HP). If evac-less, call for EoE and RA buffs at around 37000 HP to give a little time. (At 50% he will be at 23560 HP and at 25% will be at 11780.) If evac-less, yellow taunt can stay in position around the bowl and wait for their yellow to respawn to catch aggro quickly.
8. Rinse, repeat, etc.
9. Defeat Hami
10. Merits/HOs

Of course there are other ways/set ups but this is the bare bones version of the one we have been using.



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All a comment like this has ever done is fuel the fire and anger someone into posting again. Which you already know.


But on a lighter note. LOOK HOW LOUD I HAVE TO TYPE
Negative, it is a shame that silence (not posting) is the only option toward expecting accountable responses rather than banter and defensiveness. Blunt words have NEVER been popular, man. That is something I DO know.

This is the point - why does it stir so much aggression? "Just stop!" Get back to RAIDING and having fun with it.

Marut summarized it best - reflect on that.

And for the record, brutha - no-one is BETTER!

Let's chill!


 

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Negative, it is a shame that silence (not posting) is the only option toward expecting accountable responses rather than banter and defensiveness. Blunt words have NEVER been popular, man. That is something I DO know.

This is the point - why does it stir so much aggression? "Just stop!" Get back to RAIDING and having fun with it.

Marut summarized it best - reflect on that.

And for the record, brutha - no-one is BETTER!

Let's chill!
I think it's fair to say that there have been many posts that have come across more aggressively than intended and interpreted more aggressively than intended. Regardless of how anyone intended.

But we're hopefully past that and planning a raid now.

So let's dooo eeeet.



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Y'all gon' make me lose my mind up in HERE, up in here
Y'all gon' make me go all out up in here, up in here
Y'all gon' make me act a FOOL up in HERE, up in here
Y'all gon' make me lose my cool up in here, up in here


I'll always be a "Champion" at heart. My server away from home.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"With great moustache comes great responsibility" - Zee Captain

 

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Awesome...i'll lead the range(blaster) team. Who is leading the Raid?


Global@SteelDominator

 

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Awesome...i'll lead the range(blaster) team. Who is leading the Raid?
TBD..

im sure someone will.


 

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This.

Anyone up for a raid tonight? 8:30 Pacific? It's just the perfect thing to send all you east coasters to bed happy.
*Immitating The Rock
"Finnally...
Champion...
has come back....
to the Hammiiii raiiiiiids!!"

I'm in!!