What is the general consensus on server emptyness?

Sorry but calling that advertising is like saying the fact that there's a can a peas on the shelf at the supermarket means the peas are being advertised. It's only advertisement by the most technical definition. Yes, they are offering their product for sale through a retail outlet, but that's it.

When people talk about advertising something, they're pretty clearly referring to doing things to draw particular attention to the product, not just handing to the retailer and saying "List this with your other MMOs for sale, kthx"

and just incase you missed this post from Black Pebble(a red name):

The best advertising the game has been getting is too subtle to really count as such -- someone on the creative teams of the TV shows Chuck and The Big Bang Theory (especially the latter) are huge fans of the game, so include CoH & CoV items in the background of many episodes. Yet if you didn't know about the game already, you would likely have no idea of the significance of the prominent product placement. Which really reduces said PP to easter egg status for those in the know.

Take a look at this website.

The banner ads on that site almost exclusively advertise MMOs. WoW, EVE, Age of Conan etc. That is what I would call a step toward effective advertising since the target demographic for a game like COX is likely to visit a site like this.

By the same token, most popular MMOs advertise on sites like:

This. We used to have special comics and ads here at one time when the game was in its heyday.

Also this site. And finally here.

All of those sites I just listed frequently have banner ads and promotions for MMOs. That is what I would call effective advertising. Keeping the name of your game in front of people who probably haven't heard of it or gave it a try yet.

A simple listing in an online store directory or just shelf space is not very effective advertising. Anyone with any sense should be able to grasp that.

My boss used to think that just having our company listed in the yellow pages of the phone book was advertising enough. Then he realized just how much product our competitors were moving by taking advantage of newspaper and radio ads. He was/is dense...but even he realized that what he had been doing just wasn't enough.

Now I don't know how much banner ads on websites usually cost to run, but I'm doubtful that the financial drain would be so huge that this game couldn't afford it. They just financed a huge frikkin' expansion and increased their staff count by more than 40 people.

I can't believe that this thread isn't dead yet.

If there are 7 other unteamed people on your server that you could possibly team with, the server is neither "dead" nor "empty" nor a "ghost town". Period. End of Story.

The devs gave us the simple tools to use to find people to team with, and it's up to us to use them. I've never had a problem ever getting a team ever, and I never use global channels, and I'm never in an SG. Just use the team search, and you'll get a team. Geez.

The problem with COX's advertising is that it's all passive. You aren't going to find it at Gamestop unless you go looking for MMOs. You aren't going to find the website unless you specifically look for MMO sites. Basically, all of the "advertising" requires the user to be looking for the product in the first place.

There are other, more active forms of advertising that could hit the target audience and improve the game's population.

Or we can all sit here in denial and say that everything is perfectly fine and there is zero room for improvement on any front.

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Did you hit the post character count limit?

LEGION OF VALOR - Be a part of the Legend!

i dont think so. i might have if i copy/pasted the other 4+ pages of that though...

No replies when actual data is posted. Hmm.

did you even read the post that was quoted by both forbin and i from Black Pebble? this is what they are doing now. it is not our decision what the devs or NC does for advertising. i think you need to step down from your self made pillar for a minuet, or a while, and relax.