How tall should I make her?

OK, my head's about to flip around and vacate my body if I try to reason this out any more, so I figure I'm just going to ask you guys for a bit of advice. Keep in mind that this is an aesthetics question of personal opinion.

I have a girl I've been meaning to make for some time, and with Going Rogue on the horizon, I figured I might as well get her costume right before Launch day. The thing is, she's supposed to be a tall, strong, fierce warrior from another world where the environment is so hostile and the world so populated with invincible monsters that humans evolved to be a LOT stronger, tougher and overall bigger than humans on Primal Earth. This requires that I make my girl pretty tall, but still looking reasonably human. My question here is - how tall?

Let me put this another way - if you were designing a woman who is defined by being bigger than most men, how tall would that make her? Slightly taller than the big bruisers Trolls and Outcasts? As big as the various Freakshow? Max height? Suppose I picked a particular NPC to be "bigger than." How much bigger should I make her? Slightly taller? "A head" taller? "Breasts at eye level" taller (as someone else once put it)?

Just so that we know we're on the same page this is the woman I'm talking about. I'm honestly in a quandary here, because I'm not sure I want to make her max height, or indeed even skirt max height, but at the same time I want her to look and feel BIG. I also don't want to step on the toes of this titanic character who's already max height, but I'm wondering... Should I, actually?

I'm really hoping you guys can help set my mind on what I should do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

If you were going for a more brutal stronger character I'd say go shorter than average. 5'10" ish is the average height of those who are stronger than normal people while the average is 6-6'2", but if you are going for the 'tall=strong' myth then you can always follow the Diana, wonder woman, model which is 6'6"-7'

6-8 inches below maximum.
You would always know that she was larger than most (by a significant amount), but that you hadn't simply jacked it to the max, which would be the easy way out.

Then play with the other sliders to get the beefy thickness that would imply strong and tough.

Absolute maximum is the easy way out, and I know enough about you to know that you're too picky (nit-picky at times) to do things the simple or easy way. You have an eye for detail and a mind that obsesses about the minute things that most take for granted.

You don't want to go max height unless you have a specific reason. I've gone max height exactly twice ever.

1) To team with a friend whose character was female and max height. (She had blue skin and was wearing a bikini and high heels, but that's not relevant. )

2) For contrast. I have a character who normally looks like a mousy librarian (conservative clothes, glasses) but changes to a max height catgirl (yay Science Booster).


If you want to be noticeably taller than most of the people around you, go about 6' 6" on the (almost useless) scale in the character creator.

Sam, considering that you KNOW about the crazily off height scale in this game, purposely setting out to make a character taller and bigger than most seems rather self-defeating. You'll pretty much have to stay right under the 8' mark, and I'm not sure she'll ever look quite right to you, especially if you start comparing.

My Muscular Buxom Warrior Woman from Another World is approximately 6'8", and she looks hulky and menacing enough to me. Then again I wasn't going for "tall" as much as "strong", and at that look I believe I've succeeded.

I would recommend no taller than 7' tall. Male characters can go to 8' tall, but I'd stop with 7' tall for a female character.

In contrast, I believe that Wonder Woman is about 5'10" or 5'11". No more than 6' tall.

Hi Samuel!

Well... first thing I would considerate is: She is stronger... but why people on that planet evolved to be stronger?

If they are that way because of too many extremes of the planet Biome, I would try making her as strong (and big) as I could get, maxing every slide.

But one concept that I would also consider is "density"... I think (with no science basis whatsoever, just pseudo-considerations) I would make her a little (some 30%) SMALLER than an average person, but at the same time maxing all the other sliders (except legs, as it would actually make her bigger, and that isnt the idea) to the max. I would think on a very tough woman, shaped by her world to be really hard. She would be brutish, but not hulking brutish...

Anyway, when you decide on the look, share with us! I want to see what you created!

Hugs...

Alrighty! I did some work with the help of a high-level friend of mine to give me access to more zones and more cooperative NPCs, and I managed to get a pretty comprehensive size comparison with a variety of notable figures. We have the following:

Brutticus and Henry Peter Wong - Aw! The little guy is so cute when he's angry ^_^

Brutticus and Back Alley Brawler - OK, he's HUGE! But apparently, so is Brutticus. Not quite as thick around, sure, but oh well.

Brutticus and Some Random Hellion - Dude! Whatever you do, don't look behind you!

Brutticus and Valkyrie - Yeah, she's really tall, but she's also so thin and spindly. Brutticus is taller AND more chunky. I win!

Brutticus and Positron - Looks like Positron needs to eat his greens! Wait, no... Forget I said anything...

Brutticus and Some Outcasts - Make way for big momma or be trampled underfoot!

Brutticus and the Freakishly Tall University Staff - What do they feed these guys? Depleted uranium? Anyway, Brutticus has probably an inch or two on SuperProf, and I'm counting that as a huge victory.

Brutticus' Axe and Positron - By my calculations, you, Sir, are as as wide across the shoulders as this axe. Now that I have your measurements, I shall have your suit done by tomorrow.

I hope you like those, guys. I sure had fun taking them, and I'm REALLY looking forward to Going Rogue now

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

btw...what you are saying about a women that are 7' is wrong and stupid. People, unless there is something is wrong with them, grow proportionally and person that is 5'4" looks no more stretched than someone that is 7'1".

The reason you may think other wise is because a lot of people that you see that are smaller/taller have some kind of genetic disorder (even though some might not like being told that it is a genetic "disorder"). Those without those disorders look the same as "normal" sized people. This I know for a fact as I know/knew people on both sides of the spectrum at the heights I mentioned.


As far as Wonder Woman ... She is 6'5-7' as she is generally shown to be taller than Batman and Superman whom I believe are 5'10-6'5" but I haven't looked it up recently so meh.

She needs to be tall enough to dunk.

Or at least have good fundamentals.

I was reading a similar thread about a week or so ago. I'm not sure where to find it but the gist was that many npc's are very tall in this game. Keep in mind also, the female max height is slightly shorter than the male which is in turn slightly shorter than huge. One of the things that was mentioned in that other thread was to use the slider to decide and ignore the height markings because they aren't accurate. You can make a toon that is 6' tall and the powerless civilians that walk the streets will tower over him/her. From what you are describing, I would say that you should go with max height or slightly shorter. Personally, I have a female toon that is max height and I notice that npc's like Anathema (Lost) are still at least a head taller. You mentioned that "with GR on the horizon you want to get her costume right". I could be wrong on this one but I thought I remembered reading that there would be new costume pieces with GR. Just thought that's another thing you might want to consider.

your screen shots... never measure from a look up or looking down perspective... there is an illusion that happens because we see ourselves as the viewer and measure heights based off our own heights... so when you look down you will measure everything as smaller than you and you look up you will measure everything as bigger


Proportions are either 8 heads or 3 heads. I forget how to measure with 3 heads, but there are a number of characters built with it, such as wolverine. 8 heads is universally standard. The reason you see a difference in anime is more or less just a visual trick thing. But even with the 8 heads rules it doesn't always follow because some people have short torsos and long legs and others the opposite... look at Tyrant's picture on the official going rogue site... he's got a long torso and short legs which extends the arms.

The reason Linkara was ******** about that image has more to do with he fact that western artists like to say they draw more realistically to slight people that draw anime but more often than not... western artists are the same or worse than anime artists in that they can only draw surface pretty and that ends up causing tons of problems which are readily apparent in most western comics... especially the 90s which is where a lot of his review books come from.

My thought would be 7' tall. I would say that being 6' 6" sets her above most men, but with the way everyone makes their characters a bit bigger in this game, you might want to push to 7 feet.

Of course, you could go the opposite way and decide that the winning advantage on this bruteworld ended up being small and fast.

Lewis

Fun reads and I enjoyed the pics, hehe.

It looks and sounds like you found what you want, Sam...
But, for prosperity, I'll offer up my thoughts.

Being from another world, that obviously opens up any option you want for size. So, that's great.
You could go max height, but I also think that would be a shame to diminish your other max height female character (Unless, of course, that was what was called for).

Anyway, my initial thoughts were 1) I tend to go by the foot marker behind the slider (Despite knowing the deal with the other NPCs and all in the game). Thusly, 6'8" would probably be around where I'd start for her... but I could definitely go higher. 2) Since she's from this other world you have described, I'd likely go bigger since I don't completely hide myself from the NPC scaling issue... And I'd think anywhere from 7-7'4" would likely do the job.
As you've said... the scale, more than the height, is the real crucial element.

I'd probably beef her up just slightly... But that is entirely just a matter of personal opinion and, regardless, I think she looks great.
I have one design for a human female barbarian type... Actually based on an old D&D character of my wife's. I like the overall look and shape of her, besides not being able to make the arms bulkier (And I'd love to see the alternate muscular texture options come to the game some day). All the stuff in this thread is making me want to go and make her, hehe.

So, looks like you got it right and seems like I may have chosen a similar scale. Just may have gotten there differently.
I wish the citizens were smaller... I don't mind the enemies being larger than one would expect (Even if it doesn't necessarily make sense), but those citizens annoy me, hehe.
Another option is to always travel to Skyway and train with Mynx