New Archetype Ideas:Tanktroller or Mobster
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-06-27 21:37 in Suggestions and Ideas
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The Story of a Petless MM with a dream
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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
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Yeah : D why your don't like it? You don't think it would be a awesome thing hehehe
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Originally Posted by RedSwitchblade
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Tankmage not good idea.
Good idea when wanting awesome sauce, bad idea when wanting balance.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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Who said this was balance? and I am wanting something awesome! Also this not a tankmage, then do high damage and high defense hehehe. Why is it a bad idea to have balance?
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Originally Posted by Mega_Jamie
Tankmage not good idea.
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Balance would be an issue. And really, if you're controlling the mobs, why do you need defense? Also, if this were implemented, hit points would probably be med to low, and|
Originally Posted by Power_NA
I think these two archetype will be the best! They will kick butt. Controller everyone and take little damage
 It would be like a Controller no but more defense and no heals.Primary: Defense Secondary: Control High Hit Points Medium Damage You will be almost unstoppable! It would be so cool. We still will have powers that go togather... fire/fire ice/ice earth/earth electric/electric Here the other powers you have. Gravity Control/Invulnerability Illusion Control/Dark Armor Mind Control/Willpower Plant Control/Shield Defense Tanktroller may be a bad name heheh, what do you think? |
damage probably low.
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Or we can do a Mobster... Primary: Range Secondary: Summon It would be awesome! Do high damage and have 6 buddies (not including Gang War) It would be so cool! Mercenaries/Assault Rifle Necromancy/Psychic Blast Ninjas/Archery Robotics/Energy Blast Thugs/Dual Pistols Demon Summoning/Fire Blast Electrical Blast Ice Blast Radiation Blast Sonic Attack I think we need pets power sets.... But I think this would be a fun person to play!!! |
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Originally Posted by Power_NA
Who said this was balance? and I am wanting something awesome! Also this not a tankmage, then do high damage and high defense hehehe. Why is it a bad idea to have balance?
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Yeah, but this way wie will be more deadly, like a Blaster with friends! It would rock! should we make a Mastertroll? |
Originally Posted by Maniac_Raid
We already have with with Masterminds. The difference is it summon, buff/debuff. Because the summon comes with ranged attacks.
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You know....
Primary: summon
Secondary: control
high hit points low danage?
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Do yuo have a good idea for a new Archetype? The other ones are all old :0 all 10, though I really only play 4 of them :P
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Originally Posted by Maniac_Raid
Awesome is biased. What you think is awesome, others will think is lame. And the devs will only add something if it can be balanced, and is something the game actually needs.
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Same old Powers... even after a decently long hiatus from posting. That is really all I have to say about it.
... Play your lvl 40 crab more? decent range/melee attacks (with possible "All AoE all the time" attack chain). Has good resist/defense/self-heal, and up to 6 (slow recharge, non-controlable) pets.
I think I have my spiderlings on a no (or negligible) downtime, and the other 2 powers around a minute or two.
"My inner mind has become a reality-cracking overgod. He torments me! Help!"
awwwwe. power, we thought you were doing so good. come on bud, you know better than this. 
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... urgh... figures that less than 48 hours after I compliment Power_NA for actually getting a clue... this happens...
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Nope, which is why I'm not suggesting new ATs. I think we're pretty well covered, though if the devs do come out with more I'll be more than happy to try them out.
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Originally Posted by Power_NA
Do yuo have a good idea for a new Archetype? The other ones are all old :0 all 10, though I really only play 4 of them :P
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Power, let me see if I can put this plainly for you:
The Tanktroller would be very limited in application. This is mostly due to the fact that it would only be able to solo very, very slowly. Sure, a Fire Armor/Fire Control Tanktroller would level at a decent speed, maybe. However, a WP/Ice Controll Tanktroller would likely never get anywhere. You'd have a medium -> very low solo speed character, unable to offer much against AVs or GMs, and with the low-damage control sets, it wouldn't even hold aggro well. As such, this would not be an awesome combo, and would very much be gimped from inception. Even giving them a high base damage modifier would do little for the sets that have few damaging powers.
For your second idea, it might work, but your secondary sets would need to powers to make up for the ranged attacks that the summon sets get. What would you propose for those?
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It's definitely an interesting idea but I think balance would be an issue. Let's assume for the sake of an argument that the blasts are replaced by buff/debuff powers from an appropriate set (i.e. Mercs get Traps/Devices, Ninjas get Trick Arrow, Zombies get Dark Maisma, Bots get Force Field, Demons get Thermal, Thugs get ummm something).|
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
For your second idea, it might work, but your secondary sets would need to powers to make up for the ranged attacks that the summon sets get. What would you propose for those?
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Now the blasts are a more prominent part of the character so it would need to have a higher damage mod (say 0.85, more than corruptors but less than blasters). Would that be balanced or would it be necessary to reduce the power of the pets. If the pets are weakened to balance it would they still be useful espeially given that it would have fewer support powers?
OP arent they
These two ideas are just unbalanced.
IMO, I think a Leader archtype would be more appropriate.
Primary: Assault
Secondary: Defence or Summon (Most likely Defence)
Obviously Medium damage and Medium Hitpoints.
And you don't need me to tell you what the combinations are. Use your imagination.
I think these two archetype will be the best! They will kick butt. Controller everyone and take little damage
It would be like a Controller no but more defense and no heals.
Primary: Defense
Secondary: Control
High Hit Points
Medium Damage
You will be almost unstoppable! It would be so cool. We still will have powers that go togather...
fire/fire
ice/ice
earth/earth
electric/electric
Here the other powers you have.
Gravity Control/Invulnerability
Illusion Control/Dark Armor
Mind Control/Willpower
Plant Control/Shield Defense
Tanktroller may be a bad name heheh, what do you think?
Or we can do a Mobster...
Primary: Range
Secondary: Summon
It would be awesome! Do high damage and have 6 buddies (not including Gang War) It would be so cool!
Mercenaries/Assault Rifle
Necromancy/Psychic Blast
Ninjas/Archery
Robotics/Energy Blast
Thugs/Dual Pistols
Demon Summoning/Fire Blast
Electrical Blast
Ice Blast
Radiation Blast
Sonic Attack
I think we need pets power sets.... But I think this would be a fun person to play!!!