Kinetic Melee/Electric Control


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Any Idea when we'll find out what powers and some of the stats these sets will hold? Mainly asking about kinetic melee for right now, As if it gives a perma damage buff power or not (think like siphon power only as an attack and melee to only yourself), means i'll be deleting my dark/ss and making him into an elec/ss and then doing a dark/KM. So would be nice to know some of these things if possible, or right now as i'm sure they won't say in response to this, but at least a timeframe when we can expect this knowledge? (I mean come on they already have the powers made for it and mostly figured out if you didn't notice the video)


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Since I'm not in closed beta I couldn't tell you.

IF I was in closed beta I still couldn't tell you.

Anyone in closed beta probably won't tell you as it breaks the NDA(Non disclosure agreement) for being in closed beta and would pretty much lead to them NEVER being allowed into closed beta EVER AGAIN!

Should you get into closed beta you shouldn't tell us as it would violate the NDA you agreed to by logging into closed beta. See above consequences concerning talking about stuff outside of closed beta.

Was that pretty much what everyone else was thinking?


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Was that pretty much what everyone else was thinking?
More or less.

To the OP's questions, they did say that it does give a minor self-damage boost. No other details than that. Wouldn't surprise me much if there were other powers that had other similar effects to the kinetics we have now.


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I'd also like to add that if you don't get into closed beta you'll get the information when we get into open beta.

Since it's been announced that GR will be released on August 17th we can "guess" that there will be at least a 3-4 week open beta. Maybe more, maybe less. I would be surprised if it was 2 weeks or less, but we'll know better once it starts.

So given that supposition you could "guesstimate" that open beta would start no sooner then July 20th and probably more likely July 27th. Who knows they could start open beta later on August 3rd for all I know.

The dates suggested are based on the Dev's propensity for doing releases on Tuesdays.

So in the end you'll probably find out about Kinetic Melee no later then the beginning of open beta sometime this summer, unless they change their minds and not release Kinetic Melee for some strange bizarre reason.


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You guys who think you are the "Closed Beta Police" are as annoying as the people who keep asking these questions.


 

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You guys who think you are the "Closed Beta Police" are as annoying as the people who keep asking these questions.

What sort of answer would you prefer?


 

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Either we do it or Ocho comes in and hammers us into the ground. Lighten up.
Let him handle it then, its his job. Do you think the OP who has been a member here for 5 years does not know how the closed beta thing works? I've only been playing for 9 months and I know the score.


 

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It's a fair enough response, hardly 'policing.' There are certainly other self-proclaimed forum cops, but the individual wasn't brow beating anybody, just stating we can't say, and why.

As to the powersets, they get tweaked a lot in betas, sometimes simply, sometimes significantly. They don't tend to post details until they get a bunch of people using it, and are happy with the result. After that, we can hope they add details to the Going Rogue site like they did for demons and such. Since there's a bit over a month left for testing, we should have details in a matter of weeks.


 

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It's a fair enough response, hardly 'policing.' There are certainly other self-proclaimed forum cops, but the individual wasn't brow beating anybody, just stating we can't say, and why.
Every time a question like this gets asked, there is a race to see who can be the first to not answer the question (because we can't) but instead give a pedantic explanation of how closed beta works.


 

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Every time a question like this gets asked, there is a race to see who can be the first to not answer the question (because we can't) but instead give a pedantic explanation of how closed beta works.

Insert pedantic explanation of how NDAs work here.


 

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You guys who think you are the "Closed Beta Police" are as annoying as the people who keep asking these questions.
On the other hand, you had a choice of reading all these posts about people who "think" they're the Closed Beta Police.

If you didn't want to be annoyed, you didn't have to read them and saved yourself the annoyance.


 

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On the other hand, you had a choice of reading all these posts about people who "think" they're the Closed Beta Police.

If you didn't want to be annoyed, you didn't have to read them and saved yourself the annoyance.
No, we all have a right to read through the forums without seeing this constantly. How about we just let the moderators do their job?


 

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No, we all have a right to read through the forums without seeing this constantly. How about we just let the moderators do their job?
But that's the problem. You're going to see these things. So now it's up to you to make that choice to read through those things or not.

If you're so concerned about this, why don't you PM a moderator and direct them to this post instead of annoying yourself with reading this?


 

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Do you think the OP who has been a member here for 5 years does not know how the closed beta thing works?
It is a very real possibility. I am not saying that the OP does not know how Closed Beta works, but it has happened, quite consistently.


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You guys who think you are the "Closed Beta Police" are as annoying as the people who keep asking these questions.
Anyone who talks about Closed Beta spends a night in the box!


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(think like siphon power only as an attack and melee to only yourself)
So just like Follow Up or Blinding Feint then?

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You guys who think you are the "Closed Beta Police" are as annoying as the people who keep asking these questions.
And people policing how other people reply to questions are also annoying.

No-one 'has a right' to experience the world without evidence that other people think differently to them, quite the opposite.


 

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... we all have a right ...
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Chuckle. Closed Beta Police? Someone should use that for a toon name.

FYI there were well over 200 views on this thread before I bothered to add my first post, so no, no one was racing to make a comment. I also tried to keep the tone light hearted to set a tone that would discourage anyone from "jumping down the OP's throat".

When I had time I added my follow up post to give some conjecture about when the OP might see some information not included in the Closed Beta.

As a closing thought, if the OP does know about the Closed Beta format and still asked the question it could be construed that he was trying to get someone else to break the NDA and "spill the beans" so to speak.

Take it as you will. I'm certainly not the Closed Beta Police. More like a guy walking by going "Dude? What where you thinking?"


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... we all have a right ...
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks for the belly laugh!
To me, it sounded more like an "entitlement" rather than a right to Moly.

Also, the moderators can't moderate EVERY SINGLE POST that goes on in these forums. They can only do so much.

In any case, what's posted here -- http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Kinetic_Melee -- is all we know about Kinetic Melee. Of course, people in closed beta know a lot more than we do, but they have to keep their mouths shut due to an NDA.

Just restating the obvious.


 

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Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down View Post
I'd also like to add that if you don't get into closed beta you'll get the information when we get into open beta.

Since it's been announced that GR will be released on August 17th we can "guess" that there will be at least a 3-4 week open beta. Maybe more, maybe less. I would be surprised if it was 2 weeks or less, but we'll know better once it starts.

So given that supposition you could "guesstimate" that open beta would start no sooner then July 20th and probably more likely July 27th. Who knows they could start open beta later on August 3rd for all I know.

The dates suggested are based on the Dev's propensity for doing releases on Tuesdays.

So in the end you'll probably find out about Kinetic Melee no later then the beginning of open beta sometime this summer, unless they change their minds and not release Kinetic Melee for some strange bizarre reason.
How are they going to begin opeb beta on the 27th of July or 3rd of August and still ship a finished product in time to hit store shelves by Aug 17th? This isn't justa normal issue, they actually have to have it done and as bug free as possible in time to ship out in box form. I'd think they would need to have Beta wrapped up and be confindant with thier final product no later than the first week of August in order to have in in stores by the 17th.

Now I would assume they will continue beta after that point because it is a game that is updated regularly and they will still be bug searching and doing minor tweeks after it ships. I just can't imagine them shipping out a boxed version that is still full of bugs and hasn't completed the beta phase. Maybe I'm wrong.


 

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How are they going to begin opeb beta on the 27th of July or 3rd of August and still ship a finished product in time to hit store shelves by Aug 17th?
That's easy. They put a disk that's current up to Issue 17 and includes the pre-download for GR/I18. After installing from disc, you download any needed patches to bring you up to date.

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I just can't imagine them shipping out a boxed version that is still full of bugs and hasn't completed the beta phase. Maybe I'm wrong.
It doesn't matter if there's a buggy version in the box; it won't work until it's patched up to the same version as on the servers. You would be right if this were an offline game, but as an MMO, it doesn't matter nearly as much. I bet there's a warehouse full of finished Going Rogue boxes somewhere already, waiting to ship in early August.


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How are they going to begin opeb beta on the 27th of July or 3rd of August and still ship a finished product in time to hit store shelves by Aug 17th? This isn't justa normal issue, they actually have to have it done and as bug free as possible in time to ship out in box form. I'd think they would need to have Beta wrapped up and be confident with their final product no later than the first week of August in order to have in in stores by the 17th.

Now I would assume they will continue beta after that point because it is a game that is updated regularly and they will still be bug searching and doing minor tweeks after it ships. I just can't imagine them shipping out a boxed version that is still full of bugs and hasn't completed the beta phase. Maybe I'm wrong.
Personal opinion would be that open beta starts no later then July 20th, but personal opinion does not equal reality. Open beta will start when open beta starts, whenever that maybe.

As Roderick mentioned you don't have to have the final release of GR, you'll need something on the disk that will point you to the the right location/patch of whatever is the current version of GR/CoX. When I originally received both CoH and CoV boxed versions I still needed to download the then current version of the game. I doubt that it would be much different once GR goes live. I could certainly be wrong, but past history has used that kind of procedure.


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Originally Posted by Seldom View Post
It's a fair enough response, hardly 'policing.' There are certainly other self-proclaimed forum cops, but the individual wasn't brow beating anybody, just stating we can't say, and why.

As to the powersets, they get tweaked a lot in betas, sometimes simply, sometimes significantly. They don't tend to post details until they get a bunch of people using it, and are happy with the result. After that, we can hope they add details to the Going Rogue site like they did for demons and such. Since there's a bit over a month left for testing, we should have details in a matter of weeks.
All true-I seem to recall that the Ammo Swap sort of thing for DP was significantly different at first (and worse than it is now). It was tweaked. So even if someone knew everything about kin melee, and divulged it all on the forums, it may be inaccurate by the time things go live (let alone all the other associated fallout for that person).

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks for the belly laugh!
I'll assume that it shook like the washtub full of jelly that it is.