Double the choices for power sets.

Instead of making new sets. It would be nice to spice up old ones by having choice A or B when leveling up from each primary and each secondary.

I am aware that they made 2 builds available. But I really never hear anyone talk about. The way the game is set up there is not much wiggle room to build a specific character.

What I mean by that is, if your a blaster trying to get some sort of defense cap. It is not like you have 3 choices to decide upon on how to get that defense cap. It is pretty much written in stone which powers you much take to get there or spend 1 billion on inventions or both sometimes, your choice. Nutshell your only going to build that 1 billion toon up once and not spend 2 billion on the same toon for 2 different builds. Granted there a few that might, but those are very,very few and far between.

This idea also helps the short coming of possibly some power sets without really pointing them out. It does not force old players to revamp toons if they don't want. But would now allow old players to use that 2nd build and incorporate these new powers if he or she so wishes. Again without the loss of the old toon specs.

Simple example.
Instead of Ignite you might allow a 2nd option for Build up or Aim.

Instead of Trip mine you have the option to pick a grenade type power. AOE effect but for less damage but recharges faster.

Instead of Power Push from energy you can choose Targetting Drone. Okay sounds crazy, but you get the idea.

I am pretty sure over the years players have come with some great ideas that the devs liked as well. But just did not flesh out to be able to viable in a complete set. This could be a way of introducing new powers to an already existing set.

Again it does not have to be a 1 for one 1 swap. You could have a power choice from column B that could be good for several power slots.

Example: Aim could be swapped for Ignite or Sniper rifle.

Further I think something like this would be less balance issue intensive, since your looking at a few powers to add to a set, where you can say well this new power is good with these 3 old powers but would over power these 2 old powers. Okay so we make the new power the item of choice for those potentially overpowered old ones. Thus negating that possibility.

Roleplay wise, how many heroes and villains have matured over time to discover new powers. Many. Or have made new gadgets. Ironman from Marvel is a perfect example of that.

Again I don't know about anyone else. Myself I usually think up a toon and start working on him in Mids. Then once I think I have a build for some purpose I post up on the corresponding forum and ask players for help. Once I get him to 50 I might play around with him a bit, do some Task forces, etc. But then I am off making another toon or playing another 50 I have. So I am not using that 2nd build as, there are not many choices to make with many AT types. I mean really how many ways can you play a Earth Rad controller.

I hope I made some sense through this rambling.

If it ain't broke don't fix it

I don't understand what you're saying. Do you want more powers in each powerset?

So, what, Make everything like a Kheldian? I somehow don't see that working out too well, and I imagine it would be a pain in the *** to try and balance around.

As it is, pool powers and epics already give quite a bit of diversity options.

The main problem I'm seeing here is that you're suggesting that they outright double the number of primary and secondary powers in the entire game.

That's an overwhelmingly HUGE amount of work.

I'm not saying doubling, though without a doubt that would be really, really nice.. I would say maybe add 3 to each set as a 2nd choice. Best I can explain it is picking from the B column.

Not the best examples. But just trying to convey what I am trying to get out here. Using Assault Rifle.

Buckshot can be picked at level 2. Instead of having just buckshot which is an AOE type attack, you could opt for Slug shot. Single target attack with slightly different effect. So in this situation Buckshot is your column A choice and Slug shot is your column B choice.


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IF your just going for concept, your absolutely correct. Many choices. But if your incorporating a concept along with some sort of survivability play style. Well then your limited. Because your choices have without a doubt been controlled by powers that offer more survivability. So your not going to take all the Leviathan Mastery power because they look cool ( well you can't either way ).

Further IF your working with IO's then your without a doubt working towards some set bonus goal. So your definitely working within some power constraints based on your needs.

Would having 6 more powers to choose from change that for IO / SO users ? I don't know. It might depending on what you can slot in those powers.

I know on my Earth Rad when I was leveling him I would only log him in when I was sure I was gonna play him and not mess around because they have no attacks and the Ironblade temp power. I picked up Air Superiority just to have a 2nd attack. I would have loved to get some sort of attack from either my Primary or secondary before I got Rocky. My epics consist of attacks. That just took 41 levels to get.

Again just because you have all those choices it does not mean that all those choices are good. Time Bomb I think fits that category.

Without reworking powers etc i cant see this happening tbh.
If its- do i like it or want it...Not really tbh while having lots of choices..too many ruins things

If I get what the OP is saying, he's talking about expanding the Primary and Secondary power sets in a similar fashion to how the Ancillary power pools were expanded.

I'm not sure there's a lot of room for such expansion in the sets, but it might be nice to have alternatives to powers like, say, Dark Pit.

Hmmm...I could see this ona few powers, but not on all of them.

For instance, I'd love to see...

Follow Up, Soul Drain, Blinding Feint all get a Build Up option.

And the same said for the Build Ups getting a DPS style power over a burst power.

I'd also love to hav the option to give RTTC the Reconstruction treatment on my Scrapper, just so I don't have a power that is detoggled easily when I go into a PvP zone!

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