Maybe he prefers red light because it screws with your night vision less?
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
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Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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Actually, there were a few changes to base items that folks are not exactly pleased about.
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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Which "stealth changes" would those be?
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Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson |
YUMMY Low-Hanging Fruit for BASE LUV
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Terror1, your post inspired me to make a new motivational poster:|
Originally Posted by Terror1
Was it really worth releasing i17 with this many bugs that were reported in beta just so it could be timed with the anniversary?
Sure it´s a new issue and there are things going to be broken but a lot of the stuff was known and not dealt with. Some things were stealth added and since noone knew about them they couldn't test them. What's up with that? |
GRATZ!
This is the buggiest release ever?
Buggier than the one with the rollback?
Buggier than CoV which was incompatible with a much higher number of people's computer set-ups?
Buggier than the invention system which is still being repaired to this day from bugs from launch (this very patch corrected the enhanceability of supposedly unenhanceable special IOs)?
Buggier than the one with the ITF which was unplayable by a significant proportion of the player-base?
I think not.
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Did i say it was the buggiest?|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
This is the buggiest release ever?
Buggier than the one with the rollback? Buggier than CoV which was incompatible with a much higher number of people's computer set-ups? Buggier than the invention system which is still being repaired to this day from bugs from launch (this very patch corrected the enhanceability of supposedly unenhanceable special IOs)? Buggier than the one with the ITF which was unplayable by a significant proportion of the player-base? I think not. |
Go ahead people continue to put words in my mouth.
Also Westley I'm glad i made you feel relevant
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Originally Posted by Terror1
Did i say it was the buggiest?
Go ahead people continue to put words in my mouth. Also Westley I'm glad i made you feel relevant |
This is a particularly buggy release ever?
Buggier than the one with the rollback?
Buggier than CoV which was incompatible with a much higher number of people's computer set-ups?
Buggier than the invention system which is still being repaired to this day from bugs from launch (this very patch corrected the enhanceability of supposedly unenhanceable special IOs)?
Buggier than the one with the ITF which was unplayable by a significant proportion of the player-base?
I think not.
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Originally Posted by Terror1
Was it really worth releasing i17 with this many bugs that were reported in beta just so it could be timed with the anniversary?
Sure it´s a new issue and there are things going to be broken but a lot of the stuff was known and not dealt with. Some things were stealth added and since noone knew about them they couldn't test them. What's up with that? |
If i didn't feel an urgent need for sleep i'd cut and paste the replies that were made there in this thread for you, but i really need to go sleep, so... you'll have to go read them there. Sorry.
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i make stuff...
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i like it!!!! :d
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disturbed is a VERY good choice of words.. hay sammy|
Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
I sense a disturbance in the force....
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there, recluse got colorful..someone take away that gun from arbie fab please.
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A lot of black cloth dye is actually green (some of it is red or indigo, too, in my experience). This becomes easier to see when you try to stretch it to dye too much cloth, or don't get it to set properly. In comics, black objects are often given coloured highlights. Indeed, a number of things which are "black" technically aren't.
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You're the first person I've met who's green-black colorblind.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
disturbed is a VERY good choice of words.. hay sammy
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0-03-37-50.jpg there, recluse got colorful..someone take away that gun from arbie fab please. |
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Beholder, indeed
Yeah, that wasn't exactly what I meant by adding more colour, since I typically want to add ONE more colour to a colour scheme, not ALL colours to it
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Markers, too, tend to be blue or purple rather than truly black.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
A lot of black cloth dye is actually green (some of it is red or indigo, too, in my experience). This becomes easier to see when you try to stretch it to dye too much cloth, or don't get it to set properly. In comics, black objects are often given coloured highlights. Indeed, a number of things which are "black" technically aren't.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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What part about reported bugs in beta and untested stealth changes were you unable to comprehend?|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
i have a soulmate for you.
If i didn't feel an urgent need for sleep i'd cut and paste the replies that were made there in this thread for you, but i really need to go sleep, so... you'll have to go read them there. Sorry. |
Here is an interesting post
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Also that crab reminds me of art attack haha. I like how the crab pack look though
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Again, like always. They don't ever fix all the bugs; it's not practical.
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Bugs reported in closed beta are still in.
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Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
If companies waited until all the bugs were fixed before releasing any software - no software would ever be released.
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"There comes a time in the life of every project when it is necessary to shoot the engineers and go into production."
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Originally Posted by Westley
If companies waited until all the bugs were fixed before releasing any software - no software would ever be released.
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"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers
As far as bugs: All expansions will have them. There's no way to test them all. And by no way, I mean almost literally. Ranging from tiny things that the developers would never imagine*, to things they couldn't test**, to things they couldn't fix in a reasonable amount of time***, things have to be let go. It's a matter of business and marketing. They could release one slightly better expansion with three or four more months of testing, or they could release it now and get all the publicity of saying that the game updated on its Sixth Anniversary. And frankly, I don't begrudge their choosing the second option.
Sure, it was imperfect, but there is a judgement call as to how long they can keep players interested. They felt that April 28th was the farthest they could push testing and still keep player interest. If it had gone on longer, there's the possibility people would have complained. They made their choice, and they will clean up the mess in a future patch.
But the mess is more of a slurpee on the floor and less like a nuclear reactor left unchecked. I approve heartily.
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* When I go to Steel Canyon and stand on the lower east side and then scratch my left arm pit with celery, the game lags a lot!
** It's implausible to ask a developer to be familiar with virtually all potential combinations of video cards, computer set ups, operating systems, and personal settings on a computer that would have to fall in place for certain graphical issues.
*** If that costume piece clips horribly, and fixing it would delay the game another week... just ship the costume piece now with a warning, I say. Not enough people will really care.
There are more stuff that are goign to surface. I'm not sure if the current LGTF issues with green mitos is a bug or a fix to prevent speedrunners.
For the record i have no problems with the last mission in spyhunt being fixed. I expected it and it was nt really hush hush as several threads on this forums have mentioned it.
Curious though why not some equal heroside arcs have not gotten the same treatment.
Remember when they decided to change the map on one of the hess missions and broke it entirely? Noone tested the hess tf in beta because they didnt say anything. That's why i don't like stealth changes.