On Kheld Customization


Astrolynx

 

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FYI in the EU Q&A it was said no customization for us because of "fictional reasons."


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FYI in the EU Q&A it was said no customization for us because of "fictional reasons."
Translation 1: Due to the background on the Kheldian forms being specific types of entities, it makes no sense that they would be able to change their own colors. They are, after all, naked creatures.

Translation 2: They ain't doin it cuz it's too gorram hard to figure out so they're throwing out silly rationales for avoiding it.


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Translation 1: Due to the background on the Kheldian forms being specific types of entities, it makes no sense that they would be able to change their own colors. They are, after all, naked creatures.

Translation 2: They ain't doin it cuz it's too gorram hard to figure out so they're throwing out silly rationales for avoiding it.
I'd at least respect their honesty if it is #2 or some variation of that theme and they said so.


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I can most certainly understand why khel form customization is low on the priority level. Maybe that will change now that they unlock at 20.

I never checked.... are the human form powers customizable at all?


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I can most certainly understand why khel form customization is low on the priority level. Maybe that will change now that they unlock at 20.

I never checked.... are the human form powers customizable at all?
Not as of last night (I rolled up another Warshade). I don't think they became so with I17 either but I will take a peek tonight.

I'd be content if we could at least alter the human form powers.

Maybe someday they will take pity on me and do it.


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Well...

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Should clarify this by saying that 'fiction' was only one of the reasons we opted to not do EAT power customization. It wasn't the only reason, it wasn't even one fo the more important reasons, and it doesn't necessarily mean that we'll never do it.
I quoted that including his typos.


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IDK, I was called The Purple Goddess who Rained Death From Above the other night and I kinda like that.

I do enjoy customizing my other toons because it is not so rare to run into another Kat/DA or Elec/NRG blaster so I like to see exactly what I am hitting or not when things go all hectic. With the PB and WS toons I tend to be about the only one on the team.


 

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Color would be nice, but I'd be tickled <colour> if they offered in some kind of tone slider. The droning. Jut a pitch up or down, s'all i'm asking.


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Personally, I'd just like various shades of off white. Say for example, blue-white to orange-white, reminiscent of the sky at dusk or dawn.


 

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At least they were upfront about having a fictional reason why they wouldn't do it.


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Firstly, I don't think Khelds SHOULD be given the ability to customize their powers due to the story of them... after all, they all have powers from the same source, why wouldn't they be the same color?

Secondly, Given the fact that Granite is not able to be customized... that might be related to Khelds not getting customization. Simply because they don't want to allow customization of Kheld powers until they are able to allow them to color ALL of their powers. Of course, here you will say that Stone Armor was given customization options... why not Khelds? Perhaps the aura color on the Khelds would be just as unchangeable as Granite is, and therefore the power colors wouldn't match the form colors... and that bothers the Devs.



 

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Firstly, I don't think Khelds SHOULD be given the ability to customize their powers due to the story of them... after all, they all have powers from the same source, why wouldn't they be the same color?

Secondly, Given the fact that Granite is not able to be customized... that might be related to Khelds not getting customization. Simply because they don't want to allow customization of Kheld powers until they are able to allow them to color ALL of their powers. Of course, here you will say that Stone Armor was given customization options... why not Khelds? Perhaps the aura color on the Khelds would be just as unchangeable as Granite is, and therefore the power colors wouldn't match the form colors... and that bothers the Devs.
Your second point is probably the tech issue they cannot deal with (at this time) in which case there is no need for the first point.

But if it were merely driven off the first point, I would offer these thoughts.

No kheld has to take the Nova or Dwarf form, let alone both. What then explains that if we are all the same?

The nova form is based upon a life form Kheldians encountered living in a gas giant. Who's to say (the devs of course but have they) that that life form had no ability to affect a color change in their light?

The dwarf form is derived from creatures that lived on the surface of a very dense dwarf star. And these are even taken to that the black dwarf and white dwarfs vary by coming from neutron stars and pulsars. Why would those species be monochromatic?

Now I certainly would support no dark colors version of a PB or no light colors version of a WS based upon their history but there is no reason why (that I know of but Memphis Bill can correct me if I am wrong) a PB couldn't be a nice bright shade of yellow or orange and a WS be a hunter green or navy blue.


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And despite what one may argue about color changing, I still think they could have thrown us a bone and allowed SOME animation choices like the solar flare stomp to the ground punch.


 

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And despite what one may argue about color changing, I still think they could have thrown us a bone and allowed SOME animation choices like the solar flare stomp to the ground punch.
A dash of love shown now and then is good. I know I loved our "get out of mez free" in going to Dwarf form. Of course the VEAT story arcs could use some love too but that is a subject for another forum.


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The nova form is based upon a life form Kheldians encountered living in a gas giant. Who's to say (the devs of course but have they) that that life form had no ability to affect a color change in their light?
well it's already shown that the nova forms (Mefnanim (bright) and Hulmanim (dark)) were the same spices just a different race who says there are more from somewhere in between


 

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well it's already shown that the nova forms (Mefnanim (bright) and Hulmanim (dark)) were the same species just a different race who says there are more from somewhere in between
Right, they are from deep inside (dark) and from near the top (bright) of a gas giant. So in theory what about the middle layers where they mixed? That's at least enough justification for a player to choose to customize.


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Firstly, I don't think Khelds SHOULD be given the ability to customize their powers due to the story of them... after all, they all have powers from the same source, why wouldn't they be the same color?
My answer to this has always been that no one is saying Kheldians shouldn't have an established color scheme to their powers, but they do not have to all be EXACTLY the same shade of that color. After all, all human beings do not have exactly the same skin tone. So while Peacebringers are bright and blue, and Warshades are dark and purple, the exact frequency of their energy may vary from individual to individual.

The Ice Sets and Stone sets have ranges of colors that fit the theme of those sets, so Peacebringers and Warshades could have their own palletes, too. I'd like to see more colors than just blue and purple, maybe greens and yellows for Peacebringers and reds and deep blues for Warshades, but still limited to light shades and dark shades respectively.

And why can't there be a bright pink Peacebringer?

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Secondly, Given the fact that Granite is not able to be customized... that might be related to Khelds not getting customization. Simply because they don't want to allow customization of Kheld powers until they are able to allow them to color ALL of their powers. Of course, here you will say that Stone Armor was given customization options... why not Khelds? Perhaps the aura color on the Khelds would be just as unchangeable as Granite is, and therefore the power colors wouldn't match the form colors... and that bothers the Devs.
That's the bigger issue. Allow the color customization without the forms, and it will stand out even more than Granite Armor.

I do wish there was some way around that, I'm sure it would make people happy for Granite as well.


 

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the one thing I`ve learned over the years is that just about everything they say they can`t do

they eventually do


 

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The Ice Sets and Stone sets have ranges of colors that fit the theme of those sets, so Peacebringers and Warshades could have their own palletes, too. I'd like to see more colors than just blue and purple, maybe greens and yellows for Peacebringers and reds and deep blues for Warshades, but still limited to light shades and dark shades respectively.

And why can't there be a bright pink Peacebringer?
I'm having visions of Arbiter Fabulous and the Cape Radio's DJ Cosmic as peacebringers. And it really hurts my brain.

I'm going to go lie down now.


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I would actually want Kheldian colour customization exactly BECOUSE of theme and fluff reasons.

In the original City of Heroes comic book good Kheldian Horus was green in nova form while bad Nictus Requiem was red and had red tinted powers.

With me those colours clicked a lot more than in game white and purple.

Also I prefer aggresive "blapper" style that Peacebringers use compared to Warshade dork corpse leeching ones.

Making a red Peacebringer and switching him to villain side with Going Rogue would be a wet dream to me.


 

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As I was playing my warshade, as opposed to some of my other chars, I was looking at the colors and why they couldn't be customized.

My only conclusion was this.

Most WS powers seem to be made up of 3 colors, magenta, purple, and dark blue (and red of it's the disorient toggle). Since all of the char creation divides in to 2 colors, we'd have to see a third color option pop up, and I'm not sure they want to deal with that. Seems kinda lazy, but I have no knowledge of the interworkings of computers and programming for this game, so that could be a miserable thing for them.

Can't say for PBs, never played one.


 

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There are many powers across many powersets that currently use a third color. That third part isn't tintable there either.


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There are many powers across many powersets that currently use a third color. That third part isn't tintable there either.
Would you mind giving an example? For the life of me, I cannot think of one.


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I kinda want to have my Warshade use Peacebringer colors because I like the way PBs look, but hate how they play.


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