Thoughts on Duel Pistols Bullet rain and Empty clip

Greetings

I'm just started a DP corrupter...again....lol...and wanted to get some thoughts on taking Empty Clip and Bullet Rain. I tried these two before and was very under whelmed by the damage and thought the aggro at low level was a bit much to handle. However as I haven't really tried it more then to level 10, I was curious if most people thought these would be good to take? I think my build would be able to take one or the other of these at around 8 or so but didn't know if I should. Any comments suggestions are appreciated

Might as well take 'em. They're quite useful since you won't have any area of effect attacks 'til you hit 32 and take Hail of Bullets (and that's point blank, so you still won't have any ranged AoE).

Gotta remember that, despite each hit being relatively weak compared to your other attacks, you're hitting multiple foes and thus they're actually more powerful than most of your other attacks. Not to mention the mass knockback, chill or damage reduction they give (depending on your ammo) you to act as mitigation.

And the aggro is no more than any other attack, except under certain circumstances (for example, when you're in a large group with a Brute/Tanker that doesn't have an aura yet), since most of the time attacking a single foe in a spawn will aggro all of the critters in the spawn (unless one's around a corner and out of sight or a long ways away with its back turned or it's a group of masterless Vahzilok corpses).

Dual as in two, not duel as in fighting an opponent.

You're citing Aristophanes in your sig so I'm assuming that language has some importance to you.

Personally, I like Bullet Rain better of the two. It seems to hit harder, and it does have a longer range. If you are choosing between the two, that would be my pick.

If you ever plan to team (and since you are playing a corr I am assuming you do) then contributing to the initial aoe volley of doom is always a plus. I would take both if you have space, otherwise I would just take Bullet Rain as it is still effective at point blank.

I have 2 lvl 50 DPs currently, working on a couple more...I really can't imagine skipping any Dual Pistol power, except for Suppressive Fire.

Empty Clips and Bullet Rain are still additional AOE. Bullet Rain is AOE period, so always worth keeping imo.

Empty Clips just takes a little work to get used to, to get max use out of.

Piercing Rounds, while a cone, takes even more work, and one I usually just use as a single target attack, and love to use it for it's -resistance.

So far I'm leading toward Bullet Rain > Empty Clips, but I believe it is just going to be one of those debatable issues in the powerset.

The extra range and AOE area of BR is what tips me toward it over EC. If you're looking for one over the other (and you certainly could take both), I was trying to make room in a busy build.

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If Fury didn't have rep disabled, I would have +1'd him for the comment. I'm quite fatigued of the "Duel" pistols error.
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I took every move DP/ has. the whole set is a strategy in itself, the two AoE moves playing an important part. Like any targetted AoE (rain of fire/ice strom/neutron bomb) they don't do much to the single-target and thus look underpowered compared to single-target mosters like blaze/cosmic burst/executioner's shot.

From the sounds of it, you're still at a low level and maybe just got them. If that's the case, just have patience until you get to slot them with 3 or 4 slots and you'll notice a good difference.

Depending on your secondary, you should be able to debuff and lock down a group to pull this off. Just remember to hold the strongest one with suppressive fire once you get it, and practice switching your ammo on the fly as needed. start with chem to wipe their attack a bit on the first AoE, then switch to cryo and let off the other AoE, then switch to Fire and single-target the rest since they'll be taken out quicker. Scourge will help out of course.

I judge an Aoe by the amount of orange numbers rather than the individual amounts of each orange number.

just to add a point in favor of empty clip, it got -def
you can slot the chance for -res proc in it.

most of the time you will be on fire bullet or toxic bullet ammo. empty clip would help fire to do even more damage and helps you to keep doing more damage than regular ammo while you toxically debuff the damage you will receive. (where bullet rain only keep range as a merit)

I don't get people that skip suppressive, there is way to much usefulness to skip this power, if nothing else for a gaze of baslisk set of 4 and 2 chance for hold IOs; and on a good roll, that's a mag 7 hold.... gee, what could I do with a mag 7 hold?... and a good 30% of the time (ish), mag 5 hold....

nope nope, that would be useless in the hands of a corr...

skip it. skip it completely and don't look back!