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Anyone who's played Lament of Innocence could show you :P| Really, how many ways can you swing a whip. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgoDM...eature=related
Kinda crappy example, but there are plenty of ridiculous ways to make it work
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I know a lady whose favorite character in Neverwinter was a Whips weapon master. She was the master of the Trip maneuver. This news is going to make her very sad. As soon as she saw the DS trailer she told me that the whip in that video was mocking her |
Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
Rather than see a whip-only primary, I'd like to see something like spears/javelins. A longer ranged version of spines, with a DoT +psn/toxic damage set.
DoT due to bleeding from the profuse amount of puncture wounds, and poison/toxic obviously due to being able to lace the weapons with such.
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Hmmmm... Castle denies rumors of an upcoming Electric Control powerset and within a couple of weeks there is an official announcement for Electric Control in I19. Now Castle says the odds are against a whip based powerset.......|
Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
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Originally Posted by Tenzen
Since Demon Summoning is introducing Whip to COH. Think we may see a Whip Set in the future? I know a lot of people want Whip for Scrapper. Would be cool if you could choose the Whip damage with a Swap Ammo type of power.
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Yes, however, I doubt an 'actual' Whip Melee set is in the works. Just like we don't have a Laser Blast set, I doubt they built more than 3 attacks for Whips.|
Originally Posted by McBoo
Hmmmm... Castle denies rumors of an upcoming Electric Control powerset and within a couple of weeks there is an official announcement for Electric Control in I19. Now Castle says the odds are against a whip based powerset.......
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If they did do a combo Whip/x set, it could be a Whip/Pistol set akin to Indiana Jones or somesuch. Use the 3 whip attacks and some of the pre-existing pistol attack animations from the NPCs and/or Dual Pistols. It would allow the classic 'adventurer' AT, and a less gun-fu pistol set for detectives and what not. It wouldn't be 'gimp'.
That said, I find it unlikely to happen, but as always, I always push for more (relatively) easy to make proliferations and options for players.
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Dominatrixs will be coming out of the woodworks with that one.
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Looks needlessly complex to me. Why not make it a "Teleport Foe" clone? Just like how "Shield Charge" -- running into your enemies to knock them down -- is represented by a teleport, so too could "Whip Pull". I'd add a short term immob or stun or hold so it has something going for it over TP Foe.
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Originally Posted by Balanced
I think it might be possible to do this with existing power effects, but it would be tricky, and have some serious downsides. It would have to:
Be a 1-degree cone, Impose an immobilize (without knockback/repel resistance) on the target, Create an invisible pseudopet at the far end of the cone (putting it directly behind the target from you), Make the pseudopet target your target with an auto Repel power, Impose an unresistable or super-high-mag immobilize on you to keep you from moving around and screwing everything up, Disable all of your other whip powers for the duration (or maybe all of your other clickies, since many of them would interrupt the animation). So, even assuming it could be made to work, you're immobilizing yourself and giving up all of your click powers for several seconds to...what? Drag one target into your Hot Feet/Burn area? It doesn't really seem worth it. It would be awfully cool to drag someone off a ledge into a lava pit or something, though.  |
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I can see the indiana jones clones now....
Anyway if in an earlier post it mentioned using whip/pistols animations together in a set, melee and ranged in the same set would only work for dominator or a blaster secondary, in which case you would have the same 3 attacks from demon summoning been used in the secondary powerset too from dominator anyway. Which leaves just blaster, and its very unlikely they will make a single archetype powerset for anything other than dominator and mastermind.
I'm not a fan of playing Masterminds, and prob not gonna make a DS mm either, but i would love to have a whip based power set for a scrapper based toon.
Lets hope that in time it does get developed and introduced into the game, as think be fab to have that as power set for scrappers.
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I'd much rather have Whip Assault for Dominators, what with the ranges already inherent and the, shall I say, concept parallelism.
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Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
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I can only think of a handful of comic characters in which whip-ish weapons were used: Indian Jones, Omega Red, etc are some examples. I personally dont see whips as very tank-ish, brute-ish, scrap-ish or stalker-ish. I think they are right where they should be. I'm sure some people disagree.
Oh well, maybe in CoH2: The Wrath of Dr. Kahn....
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Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
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Originally Posted by McBoo
Hmmmm... Castle denies rumors of an upcoming Electric Control powerset and within a couple of weeks there is an official announcement for Electric Control in I19. Now Castle says the odds are against a whip based powerset.......
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Whips. I've wanted to get my hands on these for a while.
Couple De-buffs to Def, cause the whipping stings. Maybe an Imob/Trip/Knock down like thing, 3 levels of whipping, slow to fast and a single short range like Swipe from Claws. Perhaps a Sonic Boom at the end of the big one. Also add a Build-Up, a Multi Whip for a little DoT sting, an Arc Whip that hits 90 degrees in front and a Circle Whip as a PBAoE, just an idea. I like it though. ^_^
Just take some basic type of attacks from the already established one, Claws, Dual, Broadsward, re-work them with a whipping animation and your set really. Not many comic book characters use whips, but there aren't a lot of Claws, BroadSward, Shield or Plant users either so..... just an idea really, if the devs are reading this *wink wink*
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I would really like to see a whip-sword set, kind of like the one Ivy in SoulCalibur has http://www.everyday-gamer.net/images...calibur_iv.jpg
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Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
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Good to see a redname posting on this castle, but I gotta call you out on this. Sure, it may have taken you guys much longer to make the whip animations, but as far as the actual animation aesthetics go, you got your bang for your buck there. Compare the whip animations to the DP animations, where I am shooting little dots from my gun every time, just spinning differently when firing. I got pretty annoyed by those animations pretty fast. Add in the newish feature of power customization and whips animation pro's increase tenfold. Whips allow you to see what you are doing to affect the enemy and how you are doing it (to some degree.)|
Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
I can see a whips debuff, control, and assault set and would love to play any. I would also be down with a des Patron power pool set though. I would absolutely love to have the ability to wield whips on any of my toons, doms and brutes especially.
Im all for moving away from the dancy west side story animations to the flashy, makes -some- sense ones. I havent found any jets in game and I wouldnt dare say captain mako is a member of the sharks.
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Originally Posted by Castle
Unlikely. The 3 attacks that we have now for MM's took up far too much time in terms of development and, while we could likely reduce that somewhat now that we know what we are doing, it would also require 3-4 more animations to be made.
So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it. |
That's too bad. Oh well... maybe in a few years I'll be on the list
Well, If odds are against having a whip as a power set, what are the odds that scrappers would get access to a set that would give fire, toxic, AND -rez like the MM whip (o.O) Maybe in Kinetics
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So, while I'm not saying "Never" the odds are against it.
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