Customisable Blast Emition Locations
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-03-17 14:50 in Suggestions and Ideas
This is very unliekly to happen. It would basically require the devs to make three times the number of animations for every blast set in the game. This is a HUGE amount of work for very little benefit.
You would have better luck getting a new blast-type powerset with a different emission point, like say...a point a little bit forward of the left hand. (make all of the blasts fired one-handed.
Then, using the existing weapon customization tech, allow people to choose the item in the hand: Laser Pistol, Magic Wand, etc.
This is why I love weapon sets. It only makes sense that a bullet is fired from the gun...
So far, we have 3 emission points I can think of from the character: Mouth, Eyes and Hands. As is, I think the emission-point specific powers give those powers character (i.e. Breath of Fire only makes sense coming from the mouth, X-ray beam eyes only makes sense coming from the eyes) so I will disagree with this suggestion.
However, I think adding *some* options wouldn't hurt. Maybe give Neutrino Bolt and 1 other attack an 'eye animation', give fireball and flares a 'mouth animation', give scream, shriek and shout 'hand animations', etc.
The reason I say 'some' is, well, Irradiate coming from the chest makes no sense (beside, it already looks like it comes from the body), Rain of Fire would make no sense coming from your eyes, shockwave doesn't need a hand animation (could be eyes, hands or mouth depending on how you look at it), so on and so forth.
TL;DR ver: Yeah, give us some where it makes sense. Discard the rest.
Hmmm, hey I remeber this one, I did it a few months ago I think : D I like this idea is would be cool but hard.
I would prefer a "Middle of the head" option instead of either Mouth, OR hands, that way it's vague enough to work for everyone.
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As is, I think the emission-point specific powers give those powers character (i.e. Breath of Fire only makes sense coming from the mouth, X-ray beam eyes only makes sense coming from the eyes) so I will disagree with this suggestion. |
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Actually there already is a power which launches from the eyes. The animation could be the same for fireing from the chest, but with out the head movement. For all the robotic/Cyborg toons out there firing the energy blast with a cone effect from the chest would be a cool option, along with a beam from thier eyes.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
This is why I love weapon sets. It only makes sense that a bullet is fired from the gun...
So far, we have 3 emission points I can think of from the character: Mouth, Eyes and Hands. As is, I think the emission-point specific powers give those powers character (i.e. Breath of Fire only makes sense coming from the mouth, X-ray beam eyes only makes sense coming from the eyes) so I will disagree with this suggestion. However, I think adding *some* options wouldn't hurt. Maybe give Neutrino Bolt and 1 other attack an 'eye animation', give fireball and flares a 'mouth animation', give scream, shriek and shout 'hand animations', etc. The reason I say 'some' is, well, Irradiate coming from the chest makes no sense (beside, it already looks like it comes from the body), Rain of Fire would make no sense coming from your eyes, shockwave doesn't need a hand animation (could be eyes, hands or mouth depending on how you look at it), so on and so forth. TL;DR ver: Yeah, give us some where it makes sense. Discard the rest. |
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I know there are powers that launch from the eyes. Really, the only place you see that is Radiation blast. That's why I think it is conceptually fitting to have 1-2 more attacks within that set to also shoot from the eyes.|
Originally Posted by vashaunt
Actually there already is a power which launches from the eyes. The animation could be the same for fireing from the chest, but with out the head movement. For all the robotic/Cyborg toons out there firing the energy blast with a cone effect from the chest would be a cool option, along with a beam from thier eyes.
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Same goes for fire, since you've got Breath of Fire, it'd be easy to make a 'dragon' or 'fire breather' if you changed the basic tier 1 and 2 attacks (and perhaps fireball) into a mouth attack. No need for other emanation points for that set because the others would make little sense and only widen the conceptual disparity of this set. What I mean is:
Fire Blast Set:
1. Fire Blast (hands or mouth)
2. Flares (hands or mouth)
3. Fireball (hands or mouth)
4. Rain of Fire (hands)
5. Fire Breath (mouth)
6. Blaze (hands)
7. Blazing bolt (hands)
8. Inferno (body)
Notice that the suggestion revolves around hands and mouth animations. Also notice, there are powers without alternate animations. Also notice that some of those without alternate animations wouldn't make sense to come from anywhere else (Rain of Fire and Fire Breath). Adding eye, chest and body to the mix would just make the set look more unfocused.
Lastly, simply making them emanate from some specified point with simplified animation would result in the travesty that is CO. I have nothing against their game but alot of the animations just look...lazy and boring because eye, chest and hand animations are basically the same. I don't want that.
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I agree with you on this Power. While cool it would require a lot of work and we won't see it for a long time. If the devs focused solely on it other things like new content would be delayed.
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Originally Posted by Power_NA
Hmmm, hey I remeber this one, I did it a few months ago I think : D I like this idea is would be cool but hard.
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They could do it at a trickle rather than focus on making a package deal. Release them one at a time over a period of time rather than focus on it exclusively for an issue release.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I agree with you on this Power. While cool it would require a lot of work and we won't see it for a long time. If the devs focused solely on it other things like new content would be delayed.
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See for almost all my toons I HATE the fire breath power, and I would love an option to change that to a cone of fire projected from the forehead or eyes. I can't explain why that would be cooler than fire breath tome, it just would. Also, I want the ability to replace the various fire swords with just flame-wrapped fists.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
I know there are powers that launch from the eyes. Really, the only place you see that is Radiation blast. That's why I think it is conceptually fitting to have 1-2 more attacks within that set to also shoot from the eyes.
Same goes for fire, since you've got Breath of Fire, it'd be easy to make a 'dragon' or 'fire breather' if you changed the basic tier 1 and 2 attacks (and perhaps fireball) into a mouth attack. No need for other emanation points for that set because the others would make little sense and only widen the conceptual disparity of this set. What I mean is: Fire Blast Set: 1. Fire Blast (hands or mouth) 2. Flares (hands or mouth) 3. Fireball (hands or mouth) 4. Rain of Fire (hands) 5. Fire Breath (mouth) 6. Blaze (hands) 7. Blazing bolt (hands) 8. Inferno (body) Notice that the suggestion revolves around hands and mouth animations. Also notice, there are powers without alternate animations. Also notice that some of those without alternate animations wouldn't make sense to come from anywhere else (Rain of Fire and Fire Breath). Adding eye, chest and body to the mix would just make the set look more unfocused. Lastly, simply making them emanate from some specified point with simplified animation would result in the travesty that is CO. I have nothing against their game but alot of the animations just look...lazy and boring because eye, chest and hand animations are basically the same. I don't want that. |
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I agree with a lot of the points raised by the Pro-CBEL posters. Fire sword should be customizably replaced with fists, etc... I also think that Rain of Fire, as it is a unique-ish case, should have different animations for every Blast Emission Location. Breath of Fire should be renamed to Cone of Fire, and should of course be allowed to come from the mouth. Maybe, you could also change the blast emission location at the tailor, and unlock new locations/animations. So yes, you could drop your pants and unleash a sonic attack, but only if you unlock it through veteran awards or something.
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Originally Posted by Varkarrus
I agree with a lot of the points raised by the Pro-CBEL posters. Fire sword should be customizably replaced with fists, etc... I also think that Rain of Fire, as it is a unique-ish case, should have different animations for every Blast Emission Location. Breath of Fire should be renamed to Cone of Fire, and should of course be allowed to come from the mouth. Maybe, you could also change the blast emission location at the tailor, and unlock new locations/animations. So yes, you could drop your pants and unleash a sonic attack, but only if you unlock it through veteran awards or something.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
See for almost all my toons I HATE the fire breath power, and I would love an option to change that to a cone of fire projected from the forehead or eyes. I can't explain why that would be cooler than fire breath tome, it just would. Also, I want the ability to replace the various fire swords with just flame-wrapped fists.
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The reason you hate it is probably because it's inconsistent. Think of any fire-user in fiction. The vast majority EITHER spit fire or shoot fire. The amount with both fire breath AND a fire blast attack are slim to nil, and the few that do usually just use breath because it looks cool and not because they can't blast it from their hands.
Fire Breath originates from dragons and monsters, the idea of a large beast that can spit fire. It's always been a bestial power. While I find the fire breath power inherently interesting, it very much clashes with the fire-slinging powers in the rest of the set. We'd rarely if ever see Pyro or Fire or the Human Torch using fire breath, and those that do have fire breath are people like Bizarro who have no other fire powers.
The Fire Breath in Fire Blast is actually only a minor annoyance to me, but I'd very much like the ability to have fire breath as the sole fire power on a character. Putting it into Pyre and Blaze mastery would add a lot, I think.
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That was my thought as well when I posted this. I still love Sonic Blast but I just wish it could all shoot from the hands and would just would have made a different type character if it all emanated from the mouth.|
Originally Posted by CapnGeist
The reason you hate it is probably because it's inconsistent. Think of any fire-user in fiction. The vast majority EITHER spit fire or shoot fire. The amount with both fire breath AND a fire blast attack are slim to nil, and the few that do usually just use breath because it looks cool and not because they can't blast it from their hands.
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At the least, if they ever did give alternate emanation points, they could 'ease' into it, starting with 1 extra point per set until they finally smooth out enough animations to spread across the other sets.
I think this is a great idea. I also think it would not be lost on the players, and they would love these different options for emanations points, it would also in theory reduce the number of powers, because now the usual powers would be cutomizable. For example, energy blast where the emanation point for the attacks that make sense come from the eyes. It has merit I think.
Rain of Fire from the mouth would be neat. You lift your head up and spew sparks into the sky up and then they rain down.
I actually enjoy Fire Breath. I use a mouthless Skull Face mask, and the animation is just slightly offset so it looks like the fire comes out of the guy's black nose hole. Lacking an actual mouth, I have to say - this looks really cool.
As far as emanation points go, I'd actually be perfectly happy if they just recycled a few animations to give us more options. Blast powers already have a very few actual animations that they share between each other, so I don't see a problem with them sharing more.
And look at it this way - you're shooting energy or shooting fire or shooting electricity. Does it REALLY matter what gesture you make to do it? Your powers are not defined by how you wave your hands, they're defined by what you shoot. Even if all Blast sets shared the same animations, would it really make that much of a difference?
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Most Blaster, Defenders, and Corrupters fire their damage of choice from thier hands. My idea is to let the person choose where on the body the blast is launched from ie. Eyes, Hands, or Chest.