Best AT for a Perma30


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I've been thinking about making a toon to play/farm exclusively at lvl30. What would be the best AT to go with? My thought is maybe a fire/shield scrapper.


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I've been thinking about making a toon to play/farm exclusively at lvl30. What would be the best AT to go with? My thought is maybe a fire/shield scrapper.
Your thought is a good one. A Fire/WP or /Regen would be a lot cheaper, and nearly as effective, since you won't be getting one of the best reasons to take Shield Defense: Shield Charge.(it unlocks at 35)


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You might want to consider a plant/rad controller. You will have great powers, such as seeds of confusion, roots, lingering rad, your AOE heal, a debuff toggle (or two), and carrion creepers.

I would not go for shield at 30. As mentioned above, you will be missing out on shield charge.

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I've been thinking about making a toon to play/farm exclusively at lvl30. What would be the best AT to go with? My thought is maybe a fire/shield scrapper.
I'd try a spines/WP, spines/fire, or spines/regen scrapper, myself. A lot depends on what level 30 content you want to farm. Banished Pantheon for magic salvage, or the lowbie task forces.

Spines is pretty good before 30, and has many advantages for farming farming attack sets. Willpower makes a good farmer; you can just keep going indefinitely. Resistance based sets like Fire get good early: everything that actually helps keep you alive is available by level 16. Regen does not fall behind until the late game, either.



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Out of pure curisity, why a perma lvl 30? What's at that level range your wanting to farm? Just wondering...


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i thought 33 was the magic number? that way you have your t9 from your primary and a couple of slots for it.


 

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Out of pure curisity, why a perma lvl 30? What's at that level range your wanting to farm? Just wondering...
There's such a shortage of lvl30 recipes in the market, I think it would be lucrative to farm at that lvl. Haven't decided yet what exactly to farm (I usually blow through tfs until my toon hits 50).

doesn't matter to me 30-33. Sounds like a good suggestion.

Yeah, I forgot you don't get shield charge until higher lvls. I'm thinking either spines or regen now.


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Well, Tankers get Shield Charge before 30. How about a Shield/Fire Tanker? You'd be able to have SC and Fire Sword Circle and Combustion slotted up, right? And the sturdier Tanker values for standing in big crowds might help since you won't have the slots from 50 to beef up a Scrapper.


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Well, Tankers get Shield Charge before 30. How about a Shield/Fire Tanker? You'd be able to have SC and Fire Sword Circle and Combustion slotted up, right? And the sturdier Tanker values for standing in big crowds might help since you won't have the slots from 50 to beef up a Scrapper.
While this sounds good I am not sure it will work out - FSC and Shield Charge come so late (28 and 26) that you won't be able to slot them up properly if you stop at L30 - you will have 4 spare slots (L27 and 29) to split between the two powers which is not enough to get decent slotting, so they will not only be at tanker values they will be under-enhanced. Plus, I suspect that even with the tanker numbers Shield defense is going to be a lot less hardy than willpower or regen at that level.


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Will this 30 ever get IO lovin?

just SO's maybe kat/wp


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I've taken up this idea recently as well. I'm currently levelling both a Spines/WP Scrapper and a Fire/Rad Controller to freeze them at level 33. They both seem pretty efficient so far.


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While this sounds good I am not sure it will work out - FSC and Shield Charge come so late (28 and 26) that you won't be able to slot them up properly if you stop at L30 - you will have 4 spare slots (L27 and 29) to split between the two powers which is not enough to get decent slotting, so they will not only be at tanker values they will be under-enhanced. Plus, I suspect that even with the tanker numbers Shield defense is going to be a lot less hardy than willpower or regen at that level.
Ok, but it might work for a 33 or 35 stopping point.


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Depending the AT and power selections, stopping at 35-37 might be best. I find level 30 IO bonuses to be a touch low for my preferences. But I suppose there's room for plenty of lower level recipe producers.

If your intention is to make money at it, I'd be more likely to buy something at 35 or 37 than 30. I often exemp missions at 34, but don't go lower because I don't have my Tier 9 primary. In that case, you could go as high as 39 and still produce recipes people can use exemped at level 34.


 

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I think it's sort of my fault... a spiritual sibling of Midlevel Crisis, an SG of level-locked players on Freedom.

I used to "buy merits"- 15 million per roll from anyone under level 41- but I'm thinking I might get better results buying losers. 10 million per rare piece-o-crap under level 41 you bring me. That way there's no "I sold a 50 million inf recipe for 15 million" buyer's remorse and I can still get a hundred recipes out there for a billion inf.


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I built a fire/dual blades tanker under a similar philosophy. I did not turn off XP, and recently got the character to 50. But I'm not putting any IO that I am using for a set bonus in the character at a level higher than 30.

The idea is to have most of her set bonuses still available while exemped, so that the character can farm merits from the under-30 task forces. I almost have her build completed now, although it looks like I am going to have to straight out buy some level 30 Obliterations with merits; the supply simply is not there. Running Synapse, Citadel, and Sister Psyche regularly, that should not be a serious issue.

I chose Fiery Armor for the character because, while it isn't the toughest set, it gets good early; on a tanker everything that directly helps keep you alive is available by level 12. Defense doesn't start pulling ahead until the 40+ game IMO.



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Hello MintMiki,

I am levelling up a Willpower/Fire Tanker right now that has been one of my biggest surprises in the last several months as far as fun and farm capability.
By 30, you could have all 7 of the important WP abilities, a servicable ST attack chain (if you take Air Superiority like I did), and 2 AoEs (Combustion, Fire Sword Circle).
I cannot imagine anything in the 25-29 range that he had any kind of trouble with, and I was doing +0/x3 starting at level 12, and added Bosses at 22, bumped him to +0/x4 for the double XP weekend and jumped up 7 levels.

In a Nutshell, I am now a fan of Tank Farmers. They have everything you could want except perhaps uber speed at farming, which, to me, is not a high priority. Survivability is the most important factor.


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I often exemp missions at 34, but don't go lower because I don't have my Tier 9 primary. In that case, you could go as high as 39 and still produce recipes people can use exemped at level 34.
Your Teir 9 in your primary is unlocked at level 32. Therefore, you can exemplar as low as 27 and keep access to it. Where are you getting 34 from?


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My preferential slotting level is 32. That means I keep my set bonuses when doing lvl 25-29 flashbacks (including the lucrative first Croatoa arc, which always seems to drop tons of valuable arcane salvage for me, as well as having a decent merit reward). If I can get a set at 27, I'll sometimes do that as well (for the similar reason of keeping bonuses when doing lvl 20-24 flashbacks).

I'm grooming a fire/fire tank for perma-lvl-32 farming. One because I'm familiar with the build, and two because of the multiple AOE potential. I actually tried a spines/fire scrapper, but although it certainly killed faster, I found it extremely squishy at lvl 32. I prefer the tank for mindlessly rolling through spawns.


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Your Teir 9 in your primary is unlocked at level 32. Therefore, you can exemplar as low as 27 and keep access to it. Where are you getting 34 from?
When you exemp missions at level 30-34 in Ouroboros you are forced to be level 34. The only way you can exemp to level 27 is is you find someone who happens to be at level 27. That means when you're running level 34 missions from Ouro, you'll have access to your level 38 power. For many characters the level 38 power is an important one (especially farming tanks who desperately need that last attack).

TFs/SFs will exemp you to 25, 30, or 35, I believe.


 

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When you exemp missions at level 30-34 in Ouroboros you are forced to be level 34. The only way you can exemp to level 27 is is you find someone who happens to be at level 27. That means when you're running level 34 missions from Ouro, you'll have access to your level 38 power. For many characters the level 38 power is an important one (especially farming tanks who desperately need that last attack).

TFs/SFs will exemp you to 25, 30, or 35, I believe.
Again, Why 34?

If you keep your Teir 9 all the way to 27, tha means that you'd have it when exemping to 29 for 25-29 Flashbacks, or to 30 for most TFs, or to 28 for Moonfire.

But in all those cases, you'd keep your T9, but lose your level 34 set bonuses.


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Again, Why 34?

If you keep your Teir 9 all the way to 27, tha means that you'd have it when exemping to 29 for 25-29 Flashbacks, or to 30 for most TFs, or to 28 for Moonfire.

But in all those cases, you'd keep your T9, but lose your level 34 set bonuses.
Secondaries have tier 9s, too.


 

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Secondaries have tier 9s, too.
Yes, but he specifically said "Teir 9 Primary".


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I'm thinking I might get better results buying losers. 10 million per rare piece-o-crap under level 41 you bring me.
If you ever decide to go ahead with this, send me a PM. As long as you don't mind if they're already crafted, I can probably get you as many as you want. I have a lot in storage.


 

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For a recipe farming toon, I'd stop at lvl 33. That's always been the good recipe level from what I've used in game, and from what I've seen in the market.

I haven't found a toon myself that I want to do this with though. :/


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