EU gets shafted - AGAIN!

Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker

Hi WW

Thanks for replying, but I'm personally worried more by this response. Given that Avatea originally posted here on 23rd February to tell us that she'd make the people who need to know aware of our feelings, it's taken almost a month for any more info and now it's “No news.”

That's worrying – that either you can't get, or perhaps more precisely are unable to give – any kind of answer. It's concerning because either marketing or publishing or the “Faceless Ones” aren't allowing that information out.

Look at it this way: If our concerns are unfounded, then why not just say “It's cool, everything's fine.” If everything is fine, why have the Faceless Ones not allowed that to be said?For me, it's telling that you cannot say that, and chocolate & kittens are all very fine, but it rather deflects from the point that we have been feeling very neglected. For me at least, your post has confirmed, rather than allayed, my fears that the EU is about to go the way of Korea.

I do appreciate that in any business there are things that must be dealt with internally before being permitted into the wider public domain but the impression I'm getting here isn't a positive one.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong because I love this game – and I love how passionate you guys who bring the game to us are for it, and for the community – but that doesn't mean we're going to be ok, and nobody – not even you – have been able to tell us that we are.

Originally Posted by mereman

It's beginning to look like "give the natives some beads and they'll be happy"

Originally Posted by Leif_Roar

Hmm. Are they shiny beads?

(I have to say the thought of Europeans being placated with beads and glass pearls by Americans rather appeals to my sense of poetic irony.)

Originally Posted by Lady Arete

In their dark room, around a table there are seated X men and woman.

Originally Posted by mereman

Oh I see they are mutants

Originally Posted by Sojourn_EU

now we're just distracting ourselves hehe

They wont even need real beads. They can just get WW to pop in an say "beads!" and we'll just wander off talking about beads.

Originally Posted by fatalnova

agreed is there any ETA on when we will hear anything???

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

My guess would be "soon"

Originally Posted by mereman

I'm also getting a sinking feeling about EUs future.

It's beginning to look like "give the natives some beads and they'll be happy"

Originally Posted by Lady Arete

Heh.. Yea.
Only from where I come from... we came with longboats, axes and mead (Taking land, living there, settling down there and become part of the place, establishing fair traderoutes and yes... occationally pillaging.)
But it is a little irony Leif. However in this game, its bad custom service.
The Devs do everything and they go that extra mile, but those people with the authority and power of decision still remain hidden....
In their dark room, around a table there are seated X men and woman. They hold the games future and specially custom service, server power and marketing in their hands. One of them sits at the end of the table, even his or is it her's subordinates cannot see this person. On its lap there is the white cat...

and the rest you know
Come on Mr. X, talk to us. I promise we wont bite (much)... Just joking, we just want a little news and hopefully that the little white light that was at the end of the tunnel (and which War Witch brought) is rays of sunlight...
and not a heavy train transport that cannot stop before it runs us over.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

I think they're very much focused on GR right now, so it might be hard to get them to turn their attention any place else until after July.
Although, if there's any server list merge being planned for the GR launch, then you'll probably hear about it soon-ish.

Originally Posted by mereman

GG unless you have something constructive to add to the thread please butt out.

Originally Posted by herczeg

lol, you don't anger The Mereman GG. not. ever.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

I thought it was a totally valid point to say that I think they're pretty much only focused on GR right now and aren't so likely to come back with any answer until after it's released
It seems to be pretty tough to get marketing to say anything at any time, so when there's a major expansion coming up, I think it'd be just about impossible to get anything out of them

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Then well the legal and PR back lash will probably finish the company.

Originally Posted by Leif_Roar

Don't be silly. Any ruckus on this side of the pond won't even make it across the pond to North America, and NCSoft's main market and cash cow is Korea. As an (at best) tertiary market for a tertiary product, we're not exactly protesting from a position of strength here.

Originally Posted by Leif_Roar

Don't be silly. Any ruckus on this side of the pond won't even make it across the pond to North America, and NCSoft's main market and cash cow is Korea. As an (at best) tertiary market for a tertiary product, we're not exactly protesting from a position of strength here.

Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan

The advertising NCSoft does for the NA version is miniscule compared to the size of the potential market. We don't have access to the exact numbers, but if you compare like for like, factoring in the populations of the respective markets, I'd be willing to bet that the EU would come out on top if advertising media that applies to both (online advertising, interviews with devs on massively.com etc) is included.

Originally Posted by BlueRaptor

population of the US: 308 millions
population of the EU: 501 millions
population of North America: 528 millions (islands included)
population of Europe: 731 millions