The League Season 1 Schedule & Standings

Someone said something on Vent during the 3rd round about farming someone, and I said that we didn't need to run the score up (hence me Brawling in fiteclub at the end of round 3), but that a certain level of being farmed is actually necessary so that the player understands that something needs to dramatically change if they want to improve. I'm glad that it sounds as if some of your players were excited enough to stick around and learn about what happened.

We have several D6 people that have really been pleasant surprises. Just off the top of my head, I know that Pixel started for us in our first D8 round. He was a higher unknown pick-just noted that he had emp'd in S1 of the TPvPL-all we had to go on. A few others are getting more comfortable as well, and I think have picked up on quite a bit. Anyway, it's fun getting more players to be knowledgeable and into PvP; that was the idea.

BoBC vs. POWT (D8)

1. 15-5 POWT
2. 16-9 POWT
3. 17-10 POWT

GG guys

Surprisingly, we received no ppv io's.

U2bg 4-2
U2bg 6-2
U2bg 6-5

Extremely fun matches guys, thanks!
Edit: No PvP IOs for us.

RAFTW vs PAIN

Round 1 14-8 RAFTW
Round 2 19-4 RAFTW
Round 3 5-1 RAFTW

No PvP IO drops

GGs tonight everyone. Was a good time.

Div 8 Standings:

Post Op We'll Talk: 6,000 points
Reacharound ftw: 6,000 points
Used 2 be good:6,000 points
Black on Black Crime: 2,100 points
dUmb: 2,100 points
Eternal P A I N: 1,750 points

These need to be combined with the d6 numbers. There's 1 aggregate score, correct?

I honestly don't know. Just trying to help out here, I thought the D6 and D8 were seperate as D6 teams often don't field a lot of D8ers either way.

I've been operating the standings as follows:

Total up wins.
In event of tie in wins, Kills scored for/Kills scored against. That's why POWT is currently at the top of the standings, while U2BG played tighter games.

If you guys all want, I can just combine both D6 and D8 standings, but my understanding was that D6 and D8 would be doing seperate playoffs; the standings don't seem to impact much either way as this seems to be a round-robin format overall. If it were a top to bottom playoff format, overall standing and performance would matter more.

Of course, if kills for and against shouldn't be used as a metric, then we can just sort people by the first letter of their team's name...which would be Post Op, Reach Around, Used to...Black on Black, dUmb, Eternal P A I N...so basically what we have now, with less drama and potential e-peen swagger/waving due to personal kill stats.

From a simply heuristic standpoint, it might be good to just go as is and see how it goes. Alternative scoring methods would be possible though. We could use the chess system which ranks people from a base 1600 points (but we're using a 1,000 point for a win system, which would have to be modified for that point scoring pool) and lower/raise the points according to the number of participants, assigning each a "K" value. I think we have 6 points, so a winning team would gain 6 and a losing team would lose 6 with 3 points for a draw. Even this isn't ideal as it doesn't recognize the flow of games and kill stats.

Of course, if kill stats aren't relevant...we go back to square one, deciding whether or not D6 and D8 should be amalgamated. History shows us that they aren't, however. Taking a league I'm familiar with, the NHL...teams are scored on the professional level while the AHL teams are scored on their own. You could make the argument that we're not getting paid to do this (Who knows, some teams might have sponsors) so the differentiation could be by skill, rather than age as tends to be in professional leagues. And if you go by skill...I don't think anyone is arguing that vince, peril and co. are quite good, but they seem to be unfarily punished by the overclocking of kills by other teams AND their alpha-numeric stance as well.

In the end, I'd prefer keeping the standings seperate for a number of reasons, but will go with whatever team leaders choose is the appropriate course of action. I'll disagree, of course, with that course of action if it goes contrary to my current scoring methods. I won't complain, per se, but I may go passive aggressive on the issue and use base editing tools as I did with the old Integrity base on test to write messages on base walls.

Your thoughts?

It's total points:

• Division 8:

• - Win: 1000 Points

• - Tie: 550 Points

• - Loss: 350 Points

• - Forfeit: 0 Points

• Division 6:

• - Win: 750 Points

• - Tie: 450 Points

• - Loss: 350 Points

• - Forfeit: 0 Points

Right, but as you see from your own explanation, points are divided in a Division 6 and Division 8 pool, nominally for purposes of dividing experienced and learning PvPers.

Note, as well, that you get less points to win a game in Division 6. This could lead to our same scenario where we get teams with an equal amount of points, leading to another need to seperate teams. In our case with dUmb we'd have 750x3 more points, but the D6 line-up never competed against a complete D8 line-up. Of course, you can make the argument (valid) that Eternal P A I N's D6 line-up is fielding their D8 team as well, and that's fair.

To be fair, the playoffs for D6 and D8 look seperate to me. I could be wrong (well, it seems clear as elucidated by yourself that I'm not, given the clear seperation of Div 6 and Div 8) in which case there should not have been a Div 6 and Div 8 format to begin with, but simply a new ladder with a requirement for new players to be fielded by teams. This is getting us off track, of course.

The real issue is, how much credit do we want to assign to kill stats as dividers in the case of ties. Do we allow renames of teams if we move to an alpha-numeric format? If so, Team A1 team Al look suspiciously as if they are contrevening the PvPEC's own bar-code method. No one would take such an argument seriously, to be certain.

In the end, as with anything in the league, I'm going to need a consensus from the PvPEC braintrust and a leader vote to settle this hot-button, controversial and not to say very timely issue. Heck, in the end a vote might not even be necessary if amalgamation is, in fact, de mise in this case.

Here's what I could do...I could list D6 and D8 separately (as the teams, are in fact, separate though united in PvP kinship) while also posting an aggregated format as well. You might have trouble convincing some of the more hardcore PvPers that this is, in fact, a wise course of action as some of them have viewed Div6 with a tone of condescension to begin with. This could lead to unforeseen dramatics, which we've been earnestly trying to avoid.

In the end though, perhaps the best issue would be finding a happy medium. All I'm really looking for is consistency in recording accurate data so the rest of the League knows where it stands, so to speak, as pertains to its individual rankings.

*munches popcorn, takes legal dictionary from Neuronia*

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Not sure it matters what we think would be best at this point. Anything in addition to the rules now can be skewed to benefit one side or another, and even if it's not intended that way, or doesn't change anything at all, people will view it in the wrong light if it doesn't benefit them. Anyway, that's just what I think about it.

POWT vs. BoBC (D6)

1st round: 13-5 POWT
2nd round: 6-2 BoBC
3rd round: 12-2 POWT

no ppv io's

GG's

bout to bring that pain all up in that ***, no **** though. no ****

There are six teams. Not twelve. Add the D8 & D6 scores together.

dUmb vs U2BG (D6)

3-3 tie
5-1 U2BG
4-2 U2BG

gg's guys.

good thing you quit highschool puts you out of pedo range.

a lot of work went into stacking d6 teams with vets..so teams could roll new people, how dare you suggest it's not fun.

Lol.....

I'm loving that the ill-informed are making random accusations about how bad the League is and claiming it isn't supporting the newer players. While it's fair to suspect this in some cases, (Hai, Miss) it doesn't apply to the League overall.