The League Season 1 Schedule & Standings
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Alpha_Zulu,
Posted on: 2010-02-20 12:51 in Everything about PvP
I'm sure all the added observers didn't help the lag; a lot of people that would've been busy with their own matches on regular match night were present and observing (in addition to others that showed up for other reasons). I was laggy in the beginning of all 3 rounds and also had a couple of mapserves after PvP was over. Yes, MMs can cause more lag, but we ran what should've been a more lag-heavy lineup in last week's officials...but there seemed to be less lag that night. Are you implying that we won those rounds because of lag? Lag works both ways...and is actually probably worse for those within the storms/pets, etc.
The only lag I saw was in the first 60 seconds of round three (Which has happened just as much in our MM/Storm teams as it does a standard jump team with random Arena Lag). I think beyond that we might be imagining things. Lag for the most part was non existent unless dUmb got smart enough to figure out how to lag the other team but not themselves....
I dont know if that lag compared to the first match of the season with BoBc vs u2bg I remember loading into that for a short period and seeing people perma lagged into the air for long periods of time.
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Yeah the mapserver in round 3 was pretty bad but besides that it was fairly smooth. The mapserver lasted about 5-7s and it was enough to somehow make me do a 180 and head to my own spawn point. And I dont think we were quite prepared who the target caller was until 3s into the match heh but it was a close match all-around.
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Originally Posted by MrLiberty
The only lag I saw was in the first 60 seconds of round three (Which has happened just as much in our MM/Storm teams as it does a standard jump team with random Arena Lag). I think beyond that we might be imagining things. Lag for the most part was non existent unless dUmb got smart enough to figure out how to lag the other team but not themselves....
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It was pretty close to that ya...at least from what I was seeing. The first map had most of I No Ann snapping around probably worse then the third match. As for implying MMs added to the lag. No implication at all lol, there seemed to be no lag at all on the second match (no MMs), but there was a minor map serve during it I think. So I have to say the MMs do give a pretty reasonable amount of lag surge especially with all the other stormy pets and gang war. Sure, was the lag probably balanced...possibly, but if you guys run MMs you may be used to it more then teams that don't. A win is a win, so who cares if you won by lag-spiking. I mean, sure it could be hard for you too inside the pet huddle, but it is alot more work to try and target going into that mess then sit back in BG mode, spawn pets, and heal without the need to really target the opponent directly - come on, that is the whole point of that set up. Good point though about all the extra observers on a non-league rematch night though too.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
I dont know if that lag compared to the first match of the season with BoBc vs u2bg I remember loading into that for a short period and seeing people perma lagged into the air for long periods of time.
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Come on.....
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I'm sorry if there is a misunderstanding to what I said as I tried to defend the original implication made by Psoma (who apparently felt I said dUmb only won by MM lag-spiking).|
Originally Posted by MrLiberty
Come on.....
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The point of my response to that was...even if lag-spiking was a goal, it's cool...it worked and that I didn't care...hence, no reason to only pull this one line out of context. A win is a win, lag-spike or not right? It's safe to say I am not making anything up by stating there was some serious lag during the MM matches and quite honestly, if I was in the position to capitalize on a tactic that can apparently work to my advantage...then why not use it at least one match to keep the opposing team off balance. Anyways, good game and I look forward to the d6 fight (assuming we can get our d6 fielded lols).
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Nah, I was just asking if that's what you were getting at and then giving an argument against it if anyone was actually thinking so. But no, lag spiking is definitely not the goal for us; targetting annoyance, yes, but lag-spiking, no. We hate lag as much as anyone.
See you guys tonight! glhf <3
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if i could win through lag-spikes only... i'd do it.|
Originally Posted by MrLiberty
Come on.....
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but im bad.
and die a lot when im laaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggging.
SMD vs CIGAL d6
3-0 SMD
13-2 SMD
8-2 SMD
GGs
And that marks the midway point of The League. I would like to thank all of those that have stuck it out, stepped up in leader roles and kept your teams alive. This league is a huge undertaking and requires a lot of time on everyone’s behalf and your participation is greatly appreciated. Please remember that everyone is still in the running for first place so keep practicing and good luck!
Here are the current league standings:
Overall:
SO MUCH DAM: 23300
Used 2 Be Good: 21350
In Need of a New Name: 19400
Can I Get A Lock?: 16150
dUmb: 15200
Eternal P A I N: 13050
Division 8:
Used 2 Be Good: 13700
SO MUCH DAM: 13050
Can I Get A Lock?: 9800
In Need of a New Name: 9350
dUmb: 7850
Eternal P A I N: 6400
Division 6:
SO MUCH DAM: 10250
In Need of a New Name: 10050
Used 2 Be Good: 7650
dUmb: 7350
Eternal P A I N: 6650
Can I Get A Lock?: 6350
SMD vs EP d8
3-0 SMD
10-0 SMD
9-0 SMD
Glad you guys didnt take a forfiet, Im sorry we couldnt accommadate you on such short notice.
CIGAL vs dUmb:
Match 1: 4-3 CIGAL
Match 2: 7-0 dUmb
Match 3: 13-4 CIGAL
EDIT: Apparently we got a PvP IO out of that third match, wtf.
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wut noub r play grav dom.|
Originally Posted by macskull
CIGAL vs dUmb:
Match 1: 4-3 CIGAL Match 2: 7-0 dUmb Match 3: 13-4 CIGAL EDIT: Apparently we got a PvP IO out of that third match, wtf. |
dis noub.
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EP should have specced into fly and on the map they picked, pick striga. Flying turtle is the best strat ever
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Originally Posted by Daknah
SMD vs EP d8
3-0 SMD 10-0 SMD 9-0 SMD Glad you guys didnt take a forfiet, Im sorry we couldnt accommadate you on such short notice. |
I still think it is kind of homosexual of dex to not agree to re-schedule the match and just to do 2v8 just because EP people couldn't show up. Apperently SMD were THAT scared to fight divine's team on 8v8...oh my :P
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I wasnt asked till after my guys had already made plans to be here. So rei stfu. It wasnt my decision it was a team vote.
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Originally Posted by EnD_Reitanna
I still think it is kind of homosexual of dex to not agree to re-schedule the match and just to do 2v8 just because EP people couldn't show up. Apperently SMD were THAT scared to fight divine's team on 8v8...oh my :P
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Originally Posted by EnD_Reitanna
I still think it is kind of homosexual of dex to not agree to re-schedule the match and just to do 2v8 just because EP people couldn't show up. Apperently SMD were THAT scared to fight divine's team on 8v8...oh my :P
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Divine contacted Dex 2 days before the official was supposed to occur. There was already several people on our team that had blocked time out of their schedule (holiday) to show up and play.
I do think it was unfair of Divine to give such short notice to Dex about rescheduling after several people already sacrificed their own RL plans to show up to a video game event.
Anyways, what's done is done. What we did cant be anymore of a "Dickmove" then what Kat's team tried to do to force us to not gain points running a line up that was clearly focusing on forcing a Tie, or the lagfest lineup that dUmb is running.
-Kiri
Not a lot of candidates for the Lady Byng Trophy this season.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
and the MM lineup is legit
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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What Kat's team did had everything to do with giving us the most points we could and nothing to do with limiting how many points you had to "gain." We worked with what we had to get the best possible result for us. You not gaining points was a byproduct of that thought process. The way you worded it makes it sound like we are colluding with other teams to limit your success. Or maybe I'm just paranoid (looks around...)
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Originally Posted by IcyKiri
...what's done is done. What we did cant be anymore of a "Dickmove" then what Kat's team tried to do to force us to not gain points running a line up that was clearly focusing on forcing a Tie, or the lagfest lineup that dUmb is running.-Kiri
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So let me try and translate your post..|
Originally Posted by Mercury_Down
What Kat's team did had everything to do with giving us the most points we could and nothing to do with limiting how many points you had to "gain." We worked with what we had to get the best possible result for us. You not gaining points was a byproduct of that thought process. The way you worded it makes it sound like we are colluding with other teams to limit your success. Or maybe I'm just paranoid (looks around...)
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So what you are saying is by bringing a line up with tanks and 3 emps you were playing to win and the goal of that line up wasn't to score a tie? I mean seriously, I don't mean to don the tin foil cap or anything, but you can't honestly tell me that playing to tie is a legitimate strategy, I know that Kat is a bad leader, but did she really con you into believing that??
Also, just to clarify, so I don't hurt anyone's feelings, I didn't say that dUmb was breaking any rules by bringing MM's (or the mass lag it creates), or Kat's line up is illegal (even if playing to tie is cheap). I just said that refusing to reschedule is just as much a dickmove as the said two examples.
-Kiri
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Originally Posted by IcyKiri
So let me try and translate your post..
So what you are saying is by bringing a line up with tanks and 3 emps you were playing to win and the goal of that line up wasn't to score a tie? I mean seriously, I don't mean to don the tin foil cap or anything, but you can't honestly tell me that playing to tie is a legitimate strategy, I know that Kat is a bad leader, but did she really con you into believing that?? Also, just to clarify, so I don't hurt anyone's feelings, I didn't say that dUmb was breaking any rules by bringing MM's (or the mass lag it creates), or Kat's line up is illegal (even if playing to tie is cheap). I just said that refusing to reschedule is just as much a dickmove as the said two examples. -Kiri |
No it was intended to force a tie of course. Given the resources we had at the time it was the best decision for us to make. Why would we go in with a line up we knew was going to loose when we could get more points by playing for a tie? I just wanted to point out we did what was best for US not what was worst for YOU.
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How is playing a legitimate lineup and ATs "dickmoves"? Storm MMs are legit. That's like saying "play with no insps because that's a dickmove" is a valid argument or something in PvP. | is just as much a dickmove as the said two examples. |
Unless you're tru warrir!
Just saying.
As an observer of all three matches, it was crazy watching all the rubber banding the first and third matches caused. I thought maybe the outdoor match on the third one would have lightened the lag from the MMs a little, but nope...lols.
You guys should try an 8 man MM line up, it would be perma lock down.
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