I17 - Dark Mirror

I quoted one just now. (Not yours. The one above.)

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Where are you at Sam, I may be able to help.

And some people hate having to achieve anything and want to go into the game and automatically have everything :P




Seriously though, if that is what they are catering too why even make them unlockable. Instead of making players get to the top level, they're made to play a character for a couple of days and then they have it. If you're going down that road, just have them available from day 1 and let people just start on them.


It just seems a really silly level to put it at. If it's unlockable make it a level that you have to work a bit to get to (Even 30), if you want it to be without work just give it from day 1.

We don't know the full details yet. It could be that when you don't move you have the equivalent of Superior Invisibility, and when you move perhaps it doesn't go away entirely but becomes a weaker stealth power.

New Issues just aren't the same without them. Bill Cosby knew what he was talking about when he said it's impossible to try to please everyone.

Why is level 30 less silly than level 20?

And does it really matter? Does it really bother you that anyone can unlock VEATs and HEATs 10 levels earlier than your precious suggestion (lvl 30).

This is a really silly thing to get hung-up on IMO.

If you want those, check the CO forums once some I17 news starts to filter through

Bulgaria, Eastern Europe. I'm pretty sure even Euro retailers don't deliver here. A friend of mine got a purchase of his lost in the mail some time ago, but at least he got a refund.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I'd hardly say I'm getting hung up on it. 30 is less silly because...it's 10 levels further in? It takes a little more work?

Also, precious? Way to be patronising. I also didn't suggest 30, I said "even 30".




To me, this is like how some people like capes being an arc at 20 and some think we should automatically get them. Both camps have good arguments and logic. An illogical plan would be to change it so a character just has to walk to a place in KR to get it or similar. You've removed all sense of achievement in it, but you're still witholding it from people. If you're going that way, just give it at the start.

...better not be April Fools shenanigans!

I'm excited too, but there's lots of other real life things to do between now and I17 going live - the time will soon pass

I think 20 is the perfect number and your post shows why. 20 is a nice level most players can obtain their first time through. It's relatively low and doesn't take too long to obtain. Conversely, VEATs and HEATs do require a little bit more experience since they can play differently then their counterparts. So having them unlock at level 1 would probably be a poor way to introduce a player to this AT.

However, level 30 requires more work and first-timers (remember, this is for folks who haven't unlocked a HEAT or VEAT), 30 might not be seen for a few toons. It takes a few rolls to find your playstyle.

Lastly, I think level 20 was chosen to help unlock VEATs for a lot of hero players. I know many people in my SG that PLed a villain to 50 just to be able to play a VEAT. These same people got bored with villains in the mid 20s range.

p.s. If you like...you can ignore the "You have unlocked Epic ATs" message at 20 and proceed to level until 30.

Maybe they could compromise, and have the message only appear at level 30, followed by another saying "10 levels ago"?

I have no life D:. There no one to play bored, or card games with. There is no one to text eather D :. I will wait, and watch TV I guess hahaha. I know a hot girl at school : D

Then don't be shy, and see if she's interested

:O I asked her out 4 times, but she said no hahaha.

I meant her last year in Act Class : D
This is my last year of school, I invited her to this game but she havn't came yet.

Ok, 4 times probably means it isn't going to happen

Hahah, well my mom don;'t think it will because of her relision and I am not. But I like to try. I gave her cookies for Christmas... I am sure I can get her some day : D I am going to try until may... I hope she calls me, she have my number hahah and my email : P

Actually, it just means he hasn't worn her down enough yet. Remember, like James Bond once said, 50 No's and a Yes means yes.

Well, sure, don't give up right away - but don't start to pester her either.

James Bond is not good for relationship advice