I can't imagine why?
i didn't say everyone would be ready to hear it.
I would say it depends a lot on what you're looking for in your secondary and your choice of primary. If you're playing a primary with sufficient defense debuffs (like Traps or TA) then you probably aren't going to benefit much from the -def Rad brings to the table and other sets offer better damage.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
/rad is the best defender secondary
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It does plenty of Damage, and the AoE capability is more then helpful.
Im only at level 25 right now, but when I attack a mob with Irradiate, and small numbers like 4,5,6,and 7 pop up all over the place, its all x10 baby!
Then the Electron Haze Power, even at my half leveled cpability, does 55-70 damage in a wide cone, and tends to knock everything down.Which gives some midigation, and if you Cone close up and hurl a mob backwards, you can trigger Irradiate immediatly after it, and it hits them all as if they where still standing in that spot.
Then Proton Volley.....Need I Say More?
Ok, I will!
When you run up, and use it in the face of a Boss that just hit your traps, its not uncommon to dish out alot of damage.I usually drop a Freakshow Tanker to half HP from this snipe.(Even con'd Level)
When you trigger it and it goes 65, 65, 65, 65, the Tanker is hurt pretty nicely.(Freakshow Bosses, and higher Lts, are hurt more by pure energy based attacks.The minions, dont have this weakness.)
Iv also been a decently high contributing factor in AoE for many teams iv been on.Many of the players iv been around latly, have been taking Scrappers with Kat, and not taking the AoE, or Energy/Energy Blaster, they dont take the AoEs, and we dont even have to say anything about Tankers not being ST, because if they arnt AE PL'd toons, they are most likly running with a armor/melee combonations that offer absolutly no AoE at all, especially at the middle road of the game.(Builds like WP/SS, or Invln/Mace.)
I also like to call Rad secondary for Defenders, the "No Miss Set".Even if you hit once, you rarely miss after that, meaning higher con'd baddies arnt immune to your blasts, just resist them more.
Aim + Irradiate on a team facing down a +4 mission, is a God send, and barly anyone notices that I just gave them the capability to hit everything, and my FF drone and all my Traps kept the team alive.
"Wow!That was the easiest +4 mission ever!Thank God we had a Healer!", even though the Healer rarely popped off a heal, its what urks me the most when I contribute a huge amount of buffs, and debuffs to the team, but, im getting used to it now.Such is the life of a none healing Defender.
Anyhow, im side tracking again.Rad Secondary on a Defender is hard to get used to, and the piddly damage at lower levels makes it seem like its going o be horrible, bit its anything but horrible later on, and very well worth taking in combonation with most, if not all Defender Primaries.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
I would say it depends a lot on what you're looking for in your secondary and your choice of primary. If you're playing a primary with sufficient defense debuffs (like Traps or TA) then you probably aren't going to benefit much from the -def Rad brings to the table and other sets offer better damage.
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i said it was best, not statistically the most effective across all sets.
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Fair enough. It does look very cool, I'll grant you that.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
i said it was best, not statistically the most effective across all sets.
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I prefer Rad/Sonic, but if I was anything else Primary, I'd probably go for Rad as secondary.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
/rad is the best defender secondary
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Rad can be a huge hassle if not paired with a Primary that grants you lots of damage. It's fast, sure, but that means it is also low DPS.
I will agree, though, that for what it is best at, it is the best at it. Cosmic Burst is a great attack, and "Photon Torpedoes away!" Photon Volley just looks cool. If we could still trade an extra slot of Damage for one of Accuracy I'd call it perfect.
i agree. /rad is the best
Hmmm, cold's best secondary? I would argue ice.
Rad isn't bad with storm, but there is conflict in using irradiate with storm. My new favorite with storm is ice.
Kin/rad is good as is /sonic, /elec for draining, and /dark
Dark/rad is very nice.
Sonic/rad? not sure if I saw one. The rad blast would help carry on the effects of liquefy.
Forcefield/Rad is workable. I haven't seen a lot of those.
Traps and TA go with about anything. I personally like TA with sonic; YELL at that oil slick, BURN baby BURN.
Do empaths blast? The co-founder of the triumphant defenders is Empathy/Rad blast. If you were planning to pile up empaths, I would go sonic blast.
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cold/rad is better than cold/ice
storm/rad is better than storm/ice
kin/rad is the best as you mentioned
dark/rad is the best and will be my next defender
sonic/rad is better than any other choice
FF/rad is the best
traps/rad is the best
ta/rad is the best (irradiate on top of oil slick burning? yes please)
emp/rad if you are only going to very rarely attack, why not have one of them be irradiate and the other be comsic burst? exactly.
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Not if you don't like the animations it isn't.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
/rad is the best defender secondary
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That is because of the way activation works in this game. This is a good tip for any two powers you want to queue up into one another. Two knockback powers, for instance, can be queued up in this manner and even though it appears the mobs are separated they are indeed all hit with both powers, provided they would have been had neither done knockback. |
Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
and if you Cone close up and hurl a mob backwards, you can trigger Irradiate immediatly after it, and it hits them all as if they where still standing in that spot.
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It is the same reason "jousting" works, for instance. It is very, very handy for a variety of toons.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
cold/rad is better than cold/ice
storm/rad is better than storm/ice kin/rad is the best as you mentioned dark/rad is the best and will be my next defender sonic/rad is better than any other choice FF/rad is the best traps/rad is the best ta/rad is the best (irradiate on top of oil slick burning? yes please) emp/rad if you are only going to very rarely attack, why not have one of them be irradiate and the other be comsic burst? exactly. |
My first 50 was a kin/rad, and even though it's alot of awesome walking through the room, I'm not sure I would call it "best".
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it does sound like trolling, but i'm serious. I don't think i'll ever take another defender secondary.
/Ice and /Sonic are definitely worth considering, considering the absurd debuff values for -res on /Sonic and Ice Storm/Blizzard doing Blaster level damage.
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No, I can tell he's serious. Sometimes, when one plays a powerset that really clicks with them, they may enter a trance-like state of "this is the best! Why didn't I play it before?" Symptoms may include fervent proclamations of joy or "bestness" in-game and on the forums, jumping around in glee, rabid levelling up or making of alts with said powerset, etc. It's generally best to just smile and nod; the symptoms are temporary, although in rare cases they may become permanent.
Ice > Rad.
Rad is garbage.
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Which is great for you. I wouldn't consider it the best and it's rare I take it as my secondary.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
it does sound like trolling, but i'm serious. I don't think i'll ever take another defender secondary.
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Rad. Oh dear. Low damage, long animations, terrible secondary effect. On the other hand, kickass sound effects, slotting Achille's Heel in AoEs, better than /elec. I'd call it a wash!
edit: Now /sonic, that's the best. Endurance efficiency and stacking -res easily overcome the absolute worst animations in the game. Or /ice. Blaster level nuke? Great secondary effect? Creamy goodness!
/rad is the best defender secondary