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Originally Posted by Atheism
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the best part of this thread is that people think this is debatable.
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Neutrino Bolt = 1.5 sec.|
Originally Posted by Emberly
long animations
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X-Ray Beam = 1.67 sec.
Irradiate = 1.07 sec.
Electron Haze = 2.37 sec.
Cosmic Burst = 2.07 sec.
Neutron Bomb = 1.67 sec.
EH is faster than other AoEs. There are faster 3rd ST attacks, but CB is also one of the best compared to something like Shout. Long animations isn't something you can claim and actually back up.
what about rad/rad?
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I guess numbers don't relay the "feel" of a set for everyone. I have never seen the numbers before, I didn't think they were that short. Sure feels like forever when my /rad starts the Cosmic Burst animation and the mob is long dead before the damage actually occurs. Same with Electron Haze and Neutron Bomb, seems like forever before anything actually happens. Having multiple defenders at 50 with each set (well, only one /elec at 50), the /rad secondary "feels" the slowest to me. It's definitely not the worst set overall though, that totally goes to /elec 
Oddly I have never felt Shout was slow, not sure why. How long is the animation on it?
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I'm glad for you, but Assault Rifle is still my one true love from the blast sets. More Dakka!
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
it does sound like trolling, but i'm serious. I don't think i'll ever take another defender secondary.
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Hey Robobug...
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
the best part of this thread is that people think this is debatable.
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Ohh, yes this! I love AR on my fenders, it's another set that just "feels" more damaging than the others. The AoE feels fast and furious. I'm sure the numbers don't bear this out, but I don't care. It's a great, fun set.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
I'm glad for you, but Assault Rifle is still my one true love from the blast sets. More Dakka!
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Actually the numbers do bear it out... for AoE at least. AR is one of the top blast sets for AoE damage, it is however one of the worst sets (or possibly THE worst) for single target damage since it lacks a proper 3rd blast and only has Ignite which while good is hampered by a long activation time and the need to root the enemy.
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Originally Posted by Emberly
Ohh, yes this! I love AR on my fenders, it's another set that just "feels" more damaging than the others. The AoE feels fast and furious. I'm sure the numbers don't bear this out, but I don't care. It's a great, fun set.
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Hmm. Rad is ok. I think my playstyle works better with Ice. Though Sonic can in some instances make seemingly impossible obstacles appear simple. Intresting that you rarely see arguments claiming that Rad is the best blaster set.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
the best part of this thread is that people think this is debatable.
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Yeah, definitely not trolling.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
the best part of this thread is that people think this is debatable.
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baiting would be a better term. I really do love rad blast on defenders. my cold/rad is crazy fun to play.
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I think the reply about Shatner's toupee was the highlight of the thread.
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
the best part of this thread is that people think this is debatable.
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2.67, so it's over a half of a second slower than CB.
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Originally Posted by Emberly
Oddly I have never felt Shout was slow, not sure why. How long is the animation on it?
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Neutron Bomb feels slow because in addition to having a slow animation, the damage doesn't hit until the projectile does, which goes in a huuuuge arc. The farther away the mob is, the higher the projectile arcs into the air.
If the mob runs away it takes even longer. I'd love if it got sped up. Neutron Fireball plz >.>
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Now I'm going back to nominating Neutron Bomb for Biggest Anticlimax Of The Game. I know at least two other people who said "THIS was so good I had to wait 34 levels for it?"
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Originally Posted by Sinistar6000
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no its not
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Originally Posted by RoboBug
cold/rad is better than cold/ice
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Wait wait, I am no number cruncher but ice storm and blizzard are at blaster level, how is that weaker AoE than Assault Rifle?
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
no its not
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Well Blizzard is a nuke so you don't have it up that often, it is good AoE damage but it's not something you can use every spawn. Damage-wise Ice Storm is worse than Full Auto, they are both on 60 second recharges and deal about the same damage but Ice Storm requires the enemy to stay in the patch for the entire duration (although Ice Storm is a nice debuff while Full Auto is only damage). Frost Breath does slightly less damage than Flamethrower and it activates slower, but it deals the damage upfront rather than as a DoT, I'd consider these two about equal. Assault Rifle has two other AoEs (Buckshot and M30) while Ice Blast doesn't have any more.
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Originally Posted by Psylenz
Wait wait, I am no number cruncher but ice storm and blizzard are at blaster level, how is that weaker AoE than Assault Rifle?
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I love my procced out Sonic/Rad to death but before the big IO investments I'de take a sonic blast defender on a team any day. It would taking fixing TF's so that difficulty could be raised before I would change my mind. Visually and audibly Rad is a blast!