i would prolly say that scorp is prolly the weakest, since he is nothing more than a brute and doesnt really do anything special.
almost all of his powers are just super strength with some special energy attacks utilizing the tail ad his arm blaster.
Probably Black Scorpion (SS brute with extras) or Scirocco (a corruptor/scrapper mix). GW has ridiculous heals, a mag 100(!!!) hold, serious -tohit, etc. Mako has cheating-Elude (no crash, 30s duration, 1:30 recharge) and placate/hide.
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I'd say a tie between Black Scorp and Scirocco,Mako next and finally GW.But,I'm sure with w/e your AT/team makeup is probably has alot to do with it.
scirocco is one of the more annoying ones becaue of his em pulse (massve dmg with it) and the dust devils, on a whole it depends on team build for him.
i'd definitely agree that Black Scorpion is the easiest to take down.
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i'd definitely agree that Black Scorpion is the easiest to take down.
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I agree; I'd say the list from easiest to hardest would be as follows:
1. Black Scorpion
2. Mako
3. Scirocco
4. Ghost Widow
Mako and Scirocco could be close to a tie but I put Sci as harder to beat just because of the AoE EMP Pulse with large damage and the dust devils that put him above Mako. Mako really doesn't have any AoE/cone attacks beyond his shark immobilization power (which is easily avoided).
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Trivia: Black Scorpion is the only archvillain who has Taunt as a power, not that it does him much good.
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Last night on a STF, I was Tanking. I taunted Black Scorpion, and he taunted me back. I think I remember saying, "Aww, that's cute."
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Trivia: Black Scorpion is the only archvillain who has Taunt as a power, not that it does him much good.
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So... based on the topic title... did anyone else think this would have something to do with pokemon? 
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Trivia: Black Scorpion is the only archvillain who has Taunt as a power, not that it does him much good.
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Without any question it's Black Scorpion... a while back we were running the STF and ended up with all 4 patrons, something that occasionally happens if you get a bad pull. Well, we took down GW followed by Scirocco and then Mako. By the time Mako fell we discovered that somewhere along the line without realizing it we'd taken Scorpion out with the AOE splash damage.
Anytime you can take out a level 54 AV without even REALIZING it that AV's obviously fairly weak.
In order from most dangerous to least the Patron's rank like this:
- Ghost Widow... she's the most dangerous AV in the mission, Lord Recluse included. MAG 100 cone hold that can one shot a tank, immense Dark Regeneration heal and another sizeable Siphon Life heal along with fear, dimension shift and tohit debuffs make her nothing to take lightly.
- Scirocco... his Dust Devils are nasty energy damage capable of hurting most tankers and one shotting squishies. That combined with his nuke make him a definite threat to anyone in the team. He's fairly easy to kill but he packs a lot of AOE damage.
- Mako... more annoying generally than anything else with his hide/placate and elude... his cone attacks can be dangerous to less durable teammates. As long as everyone carries a couple of yellow inspirations for his elude you shouldn't have any problem.
- Black Scorpion... no real threat to any decent team; his main challenge is simply chewing your way through his hit points. A few AOE's but with a competent tanker to keep him pointed away from the team he's an easy kill.
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So... based on the topic title... did anyone else think this would have something to do with pokemon?
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I almost have to wonder what would theoretically buff Scorpion. I do have a question, does his Taunt thave the -range component Tankers have?
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I agree; I'd say the list from easiest to hardest would be as follows:
1. Black Scorpion 2. Mako 3. Scirocco 4. Ghost Widow Mako and Scirocco could be close to a tie but I put Sci as harder to beat just because of the AoE EMP Pulse with large damage and the dust devils that put him above Mako. Mako really doesn't have any AoE/cone attacks beyond his shark immobilization power (which is easily avoided). |
However, there is one way to make Scirocco nearly harmless, and that is engaging him in aerial combat way up in the air where he can't use his tornadoes.
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the tornados arent as much a problem, its his EM pulse with massive dmg thats what usually kills teams ive fought him on, as an AV his em pulse will nearly 1 shot squishies.
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Having soloed all four of them on a number of toons (all different ATs) I have to say I agree with this list and for those reasons.
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Great, now I'm going to have to come up with themed Pokemon teams for each Arachnos patron, with Lord Recluse as the Champion.
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Black Scorpion; Probably want to go with Drapion for the high leveled one in the party, Gliscor, and probably fill the rest with the previous forms of those two and bug/steel types like Forretress, Scizor, and Wormadam. Might want a Metagross for good measure.
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Great, now I'm going to have to come up with themed Pokemon teams for each Arachnos patron, with Lord Recluse as the Champion.
Mako; Sharpedo, Carvanha, Corsola, Qwilfish, Garchomp, and, for lulz, Mudkip (or, for less lulz, Swampert)
Scirocco; Here, I'd probably deviate from the type norm, and go for things like Scyther, Shedinja, Weavile, Kabutops, Hitmontop, Gallade, Farfetch'd, Marowak, or Lucario
Ghost Widow; Heavy focus on Ghost/dark types, with move sets that involve curse, status effects, and self healing. Mismagius, Spiritomb, Dusknoir, Froslass, Sableye, Umbreon
Y'know? doesn't look that different from your standard Elite 4 load-out... Got your one-trick ponies up front that a single damage type could mop the floor with... the tough-guy and ghost/dark bringing up the rear to soften you up before the champion.
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Black Scorpion; Probably want to go with Drapion for the high leveled one in the party, Gliscor, and probably fill the rest with the previous forms of those two and bug/steel types like Forretress, Scizor, and Wormadam. Might want a Metagross for good measure. Mako; Sharpedo, Carvanha, Corsola, Qwilfish, Garchomp, and, for lulz, Mudkip (or, for less lulz, Swampert) Scirocco; Here, I'd probably deviate from the type norm, and go for things like Scyther, Shedinja, Weavile, Kabutops, Hitmontop, Gallade, Farfetch'd, Marowak, or Lucario Ghost Widow; Heavy focus on Ghost/dark types, with move sets that involve curse, status effects, and self healing. Mismagius, Spiritomb, Dusknoir, Froslass, Sableye, Umbreon Y'know? doesn't look that different from your standard Elite 4 load-out... Got your one-trick ponies up front that a single damage type could mop the floor with... the tough-guy and ghost/dark bringing up the rear to soften you up before the champion. |
Eh, I'm imagining it a little differently.
Black Scorpion I agree would probably be all over Steel and Bug types and with a Drapion as his team mascot.
Captain Mako; I'm thinking more Sharpedo, Gyarados, Slowbro, Cloyster, and then maybe Swampert. For the lulz.
Scirocco: I wouldn't focus on the sword gimmick, rather the magic; Ground, Electric and Psychic types. Xatu, Flygon, Marowak, Luxray... not sure about the rest but I'm onto something.
Ghost Widow: Nasty Ghost types of course, I think the above list is fine.
Lord Recluse: Ariados I can agree on, but his lackeys have enough Dark types between them. How about theming them on the Arachnos divisions? Machamp for the soldiers, Magnezone for the robots and drones, Weavile for the Widows (it even has the hair), Electrode for the Mu, and... one that represents the villains.
Of the four Arachnos Patrons, which is considered the weakest PvE enemy? Why?
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