Is influence really that hard to come by?

As if marketeering is the only way....

I don't think that's true. It depends on who you ask, and how many assumptions they bake into their response. If a new person asked me the question about how hard it is to make money is in this game, I would lay out the things you can do that earn money, and tell them "if you do these things, it's very easy".

I think there would be people like me in a lot of yacht clubs, too.

Everyone gets better at things they do all the time, but that never implies that doing it with very little experience is hard. In this case, I honestly do not believe that making money on the in-game market is hard at all. It seriously takes rather mundane levels critical thinking ability and consideration of the information on the market screen.

Oh, my bad Uber. I usually refer to marketeering as flipping, or bidding low and trying resell higher. If you refer to marketeering as just using WW in general, then my bad. I would just call that shopping. lol. I know its not a store, BUT it's the only way to get everything you need. When's the last time anyone made a build on what they got in drops only? If i did, id have every snipe, stun and sleep recipes out there. lol.

Personally, i don't think it takes a genious or any guide to be able to make inf in WW. Look for uncrafted recipes, add the salvage to it, craft it, then SELL it. Easy peasy. Or place 15 low bids on something, get it, relist it higher and wait for it to sell. Which ones? You may ask. Well, any of the good recipes that you want on your toons. Posi, Oblits, Imperv Armor, LotG, Numina, Doctored Wounds, ANY PURPLE, Decimation, MOST UNIQUES, PROCS...

What is there to really learn? My wife even made 900mil on her toon this past week. Actually in 4 days just farming and selling her drops. Again, easy peasy.

The main source of influence in the game is definitely the Market. Buyers, Sellers and Marketers all can make money in the market.

Sellers, sell things that will not be needed for a while. Every time you have a full recipe, salvage or enhancement bar, you are loosing influence.

Buyers, put your bids in before your need something for a reasonable price, chances are your will get it. Take a look of how fast something is selling, if its not selling, chances are its either not as good as your think it is, or its so value able, no one is going to sell it for under 2B.

Marketeers, they make most of their influence there, there are always people desparate to clear out space, and there are people that want something now and care less how expensive it is. The "Now" demand is why marketers to make thier money.

The people that run in and want to get influence "Now", and those that want their item "Now" are why there is huge fluctuations.

DO NOT PUT a sell price of 1 for anything, you will sell it to someone buying under market, since those paying over market will have their order filled before your sell bid get processes. That is why you will see low sale price mixed in with high ones.

... and if you walked into the middle of a knitting circle, they'd probably be talking abtruse stuff but they could set you up in an hour or two with something that a beginner can do.

The short answer is: “No, influence isn’t all that hard to come by.”

The longer answer is something closer to: “No, because if you know what you’re doing, you can’t swing the proverbial dead cat in this game without hitting something you can use to fatten your influence bank.”

Transforming the flogging exercise with roadkill de feline into a profitable venture instead of a test of the tensile strength of cat tail is, as someone else mentioned, a case of knowing how to do it. There already is plenty of information available here to rectify any “know how” gap a hapless wanderer may have, so arguing ignorance is of limited value. This is true of most things including algebra, rocket science, baking cookies, what have you. Once you know how to do it, it isn’t really all that hard anymore.

Others in this thread have already bantered about why this information is seemingly unobtainable, or at least unused, by the whingers, so I’ll toss out another odd tidbit that I’ve noticed in my occasional attempts to educate the ignorant when it comes to making influence on the market:

I’ve run across the odd individual ranting and railing against not just the market, but marketeers as well. And it is not the usual line that marketeers are the ones responsible for inflating prices and creating scarcity, nor is it directed specifically at the billionaire’s club. It is directed at anyone who dares to the use the market for anything besides a garbage disposal for reward drops and a store for IO recipes. If you start to mention ways they could turn their drops into enough influence to buy what they want at a price they can live with, you’re stigmatized as a malodorous slime-dweller whose sole purpose is to extract their fun with a gaff large enough to land a tuna.

While such characterizations aren’t worth more than an eye roll, or perhaps a gift of a ball of aluminum foil accompanying some good advice about the use of I5 as recreational facility, this attitude goes beyond being intentionally uncaring and straight into reactionary.

What does all that mean? Not much. It is just sort of interesting.

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