Buff Trick Arrows!

I personally am a fan of the suggestion that Luminara, Rush_Bolt and Trickshooter would be jumping to conclusions about TA.

Just FYI, the point of this thread has never been "ta is teh sux".

The point of this thread was to point out that Trick Arrows falls behind all the other buff/debuff sets. It gets the job done, but choosing anything else would get the job done easier and faster.

Martial Arts is the same way when it comes to the Scrapper Primaries, but that doesn't make it impossible to defeat enemies when you pick that set.

Nobody cares whether TA is the "worst" set or not, there will always be someone at the bottom of the totem pole. Most of the people in this thread just want to make sure that the difference between TA's performance levels and the rest of the sets isn't as big a gap as it currently is. Don't confuse that with "bashing". TA can stay the "worst" set to pick as long as it's only "worst" by a smaller margin. Especially on the non-Defender ATs.

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From my perspective. It suffices. It does the job. I could play it and be happy with it. I could go on with their never being another change to it. However from other peoples perspectives I'd like to see fixes. I'd like to see tweaks thinking of a couple of areas with which would make the set perform better. Currently it doesn't perform as well as it should. Then by reading of peoples limitations and from seeing what limitations some people give themselves from looking at their builds I see additional areas where they won't be getting as much out of TA as they could be. However you trade one power for another and so one flexibility for another. Really they could fix one power and pretty much leave it at that. Then the set is pretty much performing as intended. It's common knowledge that it isn't performing as intended. It's still a good set to play and team with.

Silas Clarification Time:

Yes, I was being facetious.

Yes, I am a hombre

I agree that TA is decent, but underperforming relative to other sets.

My views on the OP's suggestions:

Entangling Arrow: This power is just fine IMO. It's easily able to stack enough to immobilize some of the more annoying AV's (read ones that love to run). It's no web grenade, true. But then the sets with web grenade don't have a plethora of -run speed and -recharge powers either. By the way, don't all powers with redraw (aka weapon sets) tend to have a small acc mod boost?

Flash Arrow: Ok, this I could almost agree with. It's a rather meh power. It's unresistable -tohit is the only real reason to use it usually. And that's a small amount. Ideally I would rather the -acc get boosted and the -perception be removed.

Glue Arrow: Say what?! Are you looking at the enhanced values or unenhanced values? You did know this power use to have a 6 second recharge and either 45 second or 1 minute duration when initially on test right? And the devs (possibly correctly) decided that a self stacking -recharge was too strong. Mind you, I'd love to see it's -recharge boosted. I'm not seeing it happening though. By the way, what is the other -runspeed power in trick arrow that gives -90% to run speed? It's not Oil Slick, that gives -3.20 max run speed but no run speed penelty other then that. Glue does that, plus a base of -90% runspeed.

Ice Arrow: Yeah, I'd like the debuffs increased. I'm rather doubting it'll happen though.

Poison Gas Arrow: Say what?! Allow it's sleep effect to stack? And how pray tell are you going to do that? Why would you want it to do that? With a duration that's half the recharge rate, you have to be heavily slotting recharge to get this perma to begin with. You'd then have to have insane +recharge from other sources in order for it to be self stacking to begin with. But then if your doing that glue arrow doesn't need a stronger -recharge debuff. It's self stacking already.

Acid Arrow: I could aprove of the aoe increase. But why are you asking for a nerf to it's recharge? The devs have stated in the past that it and disruption arrow have lower -resist values because they can stack together. And I'm not sure, but I think acid arrow can self stack.

Disruption Arrow: Uhm, as far as I know it doesn't have a cap for how many foes it can affect at once. As for adding -acc to it, erm... probably not. See my suggestion for flash arrow instead. Enemies would either run out of the disruption arrow's effect radius quickly (thus lose the -tohit) or die extremely quickly (thus lose the -tohit).

Oil Slick Arrow: I don't seem to have the problems you do lighting this. There were problems in the past. It use to refuse to light when street sweeping or in outdoor missions. That hasn't been too much of an issue for a while. Mind you, I'd love the recharge timer to be reduced. That's doubtful to happen though.