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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
On all toons. From level one on up. Especially low level toons which have so few slots to begin with.
Vet Rewards are a mixed bag. You get four per year and you can't expect every single one to be super awesome. I expect something awesome at least once a year. I love Reveal. I thought the 5 Merit reward wasn't worth the effort. I love the Wings and Trenchcoat and Kilt. I thought the Boxer Outfit and the Greek Letters weren't worth the effort. But hey, free stuff. |
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Originally Posted by LadyMage
Once again, I declare the vet rewards working as intended. Some people complain about them being too much and they should be available to everyone. Some people complain that they're lame and should be bigger. Since we're getting complaining on both ends, the reality's probably in the middle.
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Or unlucky and it unlocks late or not at all. 
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what does reveal actually reveal anyway?
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It instantly removes the fog of war from the map. (The entire map becomes visible/filled in.)|
Originally Posted by beyeajus74018
what does reveal actually reveal anyway?
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I just got my Base TP about a week ago, so I have a ways to go.
fog of war? Is that a move? When is a piece of map invisible?
I for one love the Vet rewards.
I don't know what I would do without the Vet attacks or the respecs, considering I respec almost every month or so with better build. I'm at 60 months right now, but the Reveal one sounds kinda cool.
They might not be perfect, but its better than a kick in the butt.
Also its fun to chain Sands of Mu, Flurry, and Shadow Maul for lulz.
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All the zone maps are dark when a character first arrives in the zone. In regular City Zones, there's a sort of dim outline of what's in the zone visible in places you haven't been, but in Hazard Zones it's just completely black. You don't know where anything is (can't activate the navigation markers for neighborhoods, etc.) until you've been there. That's the "fog of war".
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Originally Posted by beyeajus74018
fog of war? Is that a move? When is a piece of map invisible?
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(just great, looking out window and seeing super sized fluffy snow falling)
Vet Rewards are a mixed bag. Sort of like trick-r- treating when you were a kid. Some of the stuff you like, some you don't.
Costume Parts - Some of these I've loved. Nobody can complain (other than not playing long enough) about wings or the trenchcoat. The belly shirts/kilts were generally well liked as well and the samurai armor set was excellent and sadly with the swing to add-on packs, the last full costume set (with multiple options) I would expect seeing (the anime tech armor was OK but one glove, boot, chest and pant item, meh). However items like the various chest symbols, the boxing set and shoulder cape didn't really float many people's boat. These all came with a tailor token.
Respecs - Nice but some people simply don't respec their characters often beyond the freespec every issue.
Pets - Deco pet is cute but pointless, buff pet is fragile (understandable with the mantra that vet rewards shouldn't affect play much).
Base Rewards - If you aren't in a position to edit a base, useless. If you are, it can add flavor.
Prestige/Inherent Powers - some quite useful and some helpful to flesh out your attack chain.
Pre-order rewards - Different sprints from CoH and Unique helmets from CoV. Mixed bag.
Now if you've been paying and playing this game since the game first hit the shelves then the later rewards seem to new players as extremely good. 50% discount always at tailors (except my oldest characters already have a ton of free tailor credits from the various times the devs handed them out for issues). Travel powers at Level 6 (more to do with CO I think and with safeguard/mayhem temp power not as attractive). And now the boost to salvage/recipe/market inventory. The only so-so vet power in the upper range is Reveal which would in theory make the shadow shard a tad more navigable right off the bat.
The thing is not everybody will like every vet reward. Just like you may not like every type of treat you got on Halloween. Some rewards are carrots, encouraging you to keep playing and paying to get them, some are like the lame mini comic book prize in your CrackerJacks instead of a tattoo or little plastic toy, worthless in your mind. But overall they are more of a positive than a negative.
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Which i thought was implied with "(The entire map becomes visible/filled in.)" part of my post.|
Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
All the zone maps are dark when a character first arrives in the zone. In regular City Zones, there's a sort of dim outline of what's in the zone visible in places you haven't been, but in Hazard Zones it's just completely black. You don't know where anything is (can't activate the navigation markers for neighborhoods, etc.) until you've been there. That's the "fog of war".
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Thus the dim/black/hidden areas of the map are covered by "fog of war", which is a term that comes to gaming from its use in war games. You remove the fog of war by exploring the darkened areas or using reveal.
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Can't you add personal items to a base without having base edit permissions?
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Base Rewards - If you aren't in a position to edit a base, useless. If you are, it can add flavor.
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I like the vet rewards - some are useful for me, and some not so useful - but they're all free 
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There was a post by someone a few years ago who did this. Apparently his SG leader and Base designer got quite pissed and vocal about said player's audacity in assuming he could whimsily disrupt the harmonious design of the Base with personal trash.
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Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Can't you add personal items to a base without having base edit permissions?
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And everyone's opinion of "bad" or "good" is different.|
Originally Posted by Majek
My complaint is that there is too much good with the bad, and too much bad with the good. This is just a slap in the face to everyone who has played for 62 months or less.
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"Ugh, a boxing outfit? How lame!"
"Cool, I can use those pieces!"
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As a side note, "see who can keep the buff pet alive" is a fun little minigame. And buffed, we've had them over the HP of some of the people on the team rather easily.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Pets - Deco pet is cute but pointless, buff pet is fragile (understandable with the mantra that vet rewards shouldn't affect play much).
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i like the fact everyone saying there free but you have to pay towards them to get them.
anyways yes some are great some are lame. but they are stuck in a way with these veteran rewards. they can't make them too powerful or there be a flood of it unfair/dev hates newbies thread. so they try to do there best at going middle level to everyone and i think they doing great at it
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That's like saying you have to pay for your ITF runs. While it's "technically" true, it's still not like you're paying 5 bucks a run. They are free costumes, items, tailor tokens, respecs etc. as opposed to having to pay for a booster pack or a respec. They are free because we get them just for playing the game.
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Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
i like the fact everyone saying there free but you have to pay towards them to get them.
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Also, they don't unlock when you buy the time. You have to wait and play (at least we hope you are playing)
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Originally Posted by SunGryphon
That's like saying you have to pay for your ITF runs. While it's "technically" true, it's still not like you're paying 5 bucks a run. They are free costumes, items, tailor tokens, respecs etc. as opposed to having to pay for a booster pack or a respec. They are free because we get them just for playing the game.
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this is where i see that it not free as you got to wait for it. to me when you buy a something and it say on the box that it includes a free item. then to me that free
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Originally Posted by DocArcus
Also, they don't unlock when you buy the time. You have to wait and play (at least we hope you are playing)
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
All the zone maps are dark when a character first arrives in the zone. In regular City Zones, there's a sort of dim outline of what's in the zone visible in places you haven't been, but in Hazard Zones it's just completely black. You don't know where anything is (can't activate the navigation markers for neighborhoods, etc.) until you've been there. That's the "fog of war".
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oooooOOOOoooo I get it, that IS cool then!
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You're about... what... three years too late to the beating of this particular horse.
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Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
i like the fact everyone saying there free but you have to pay towards them to get them.
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You are not buying the rewards. You are paying to play the game. They give you the rewards for playing.
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Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
this is where i see that it not free as you got to wait for it. to me when you buy a something and it say on the box that it includes a free item. then to me that free
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Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
this is where i see that it not free as you got to wait for it. to me when you buy a something and it say on the box that it includes a free item. then to me that free
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It DOES include a free item, you just have to wait for it.
Instant gratification and free do not necessarily go hand in hand.
Let's say you get a piece of software that includes a rebate at 100% of the price. You pay for the software. In three months, you get a rebate. Ta-da. The software you purchased three months ago just became free.
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Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
this is where i see that it not free as you got to wait for it. to me when you buy a something and it say on the box that it includes a free item. then to me that free
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Here's a demo of how Reveal works.
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