Adventures in Ridiculousness
By
Arctic Man,
Posted on: 2009-09-19 07:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I like the last one the best. More villains need to use Verisimilitude and Obfuscate. |
Originally Posted by Bitt_Player
That gives me an idea. Write a perfectly normal arc, then go through and replace every word the filter blocks, as well as some carefully-selected, non-blocked words, with random words pulled from a dictionary.
"What the cabbage is $name doing here!" "How in socks are you so powerful?!" "Oh versimilitude! My evil plan is obfuscated!" |
There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
I had a hell of a time trying to figure out why one of my arcs would not publish, it was giving me that "copyrighted/offensive word" thing but of course not saying WHAT was triggering it.
Turned out that it was the name of a detail. See, one mission had a large number of battles in it and each one had different groups and dialog. So to save space I named them B1, B2, B3... and so on.
Turns out that "B5" is a forbidden combination of characters. /headdesk
I have some helpful advice to anyone who is in charge of creating these filters, or to anyone who may one day be tasked with creating these filters.
Please totally ignore the existence of Urban Dictionary. If you use Urban Dictionary as a reference for what words might be deemed offensive, then chances are, the majority of the English language (and probably several other languages as well) will end up being censored.
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Wait ... did they really filter that because it looks kinda like BS? It's the only reason I can think of.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Turns out that "B5" is a forbidden combination of characters. /headdesk
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MA Arcs: Yarmouth 1509 and 58812
Our filter is such a load of B5....
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That or Babylon 5.
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Originally Posted by Oliin
Wait ... did they really filter that because it looks kinda like BS? It's the only reason I can think of.
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45s is also filtered, (as in "we're fighting 45s") so I'm guessing B5 is filtered for the same reason.
And why is Satan not filtered, but Hitler and Stalin are?
Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
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Because Satan at least has standards.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
And why is Satan not filtered, but Hitler and Stalin are?
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Because Satan at least has standards.
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*ZING!*
Take that Unconventional Governments!
MY FAREWELL GIFT
It is never truly gone, as long as there is someone left to remember.
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That doesn't work too well if you're trying to make a story about CoT, Banished Pantheon etc though, and want to include their gods in the text somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Sorciere
Yeah, I never quite understood why the word "god" is filtered.
Luckily, that's one of the easiest to work around. There are plenty of other phrases that express the same emotion (e.g., "thank goodness"). |
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How about deities?
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Originally Posted by Arctic Man
That doesn't work too well if you're trying to make a story about CoT, Banished Pantheon etc though, and want to include their gods in the text somewhere.
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There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
I've only played a handful of online games where the filters were rather extreme. At least in City of Heroes you can disable it for chatting, it's a shame it doesn't also work for publishing story arcs. Okay granted they don't want people writing their own triple-X fanfictions or inciting a religious war by saying bad things about the Pope or a certain prophet, but sometimes its just absurd.
Mind you, anyone who has played Phantasy Star Online/Universe will know that their chat filters (unable to be turned off, I might add) are completely insane. While it filters out the most benign of words ("Doesn't it" becomes "Doesn'* @!#" because of the 'tit' part) it doesn't filter out a certain four letter F word if you end it with 'ing'. Strange but true folks.
Characters:
The Heroic Mary Grace (50)
The Mystical Thunderspark (50)
The Candy-loving Little Jenny (50)
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Dang, I forgot that the filter stops arcs from being published. Shows how potentially-offensive my arcs are, right?|
Originally Posted by Thunderspark
I've only played a handful of online games where the filters were rather extreme. At least in City of Heroes you can disable it for chatting, it's a shame it doesn't also work for publishing story arcs. Okay granted they don't want people writing their own triple-X fanfictions or inciting a religious war by saying bad things about the Pope or a certain prophet, but sometimes its just absurd.
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Yeah, something needs to be done about that.
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| Mind you, anyone who has played Phantasy Star Online/Universe will know that their chat filters (unable to be turned off, I might add) are completely insane. While it filters out the most benign of words ("Doesn't it" becomes "Doesn'* @!#" because of the 'tit' part) it doesn't filter out a certain four letter F word if you end it with 'ing'. Strange but true folks. |
BackAlleyBrawler: I can't facepalm this post hard enough.
ShoNuff: If sophisticated = bro-mantically emo-tastic, then I'm going to keep to my Shonen loving simplicity dammit.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
It's old-timey pejorative slang for a black person.
No, honestly. See also "coon". |
.... Are there any words in American English that are not pejorative slang for black people?
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Given enough time, I'm certain the answer will be "No."|
Originally Posted by SlyGuyMcFly
.... Are there any words in American English that are not pejorative slang for black people?
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Einstein said it best. Only two things are infinite: the universe and stupidity, and he wasn't certain about the universe.
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Yes. Yes there are. Many words are already taken, as pejorative slang for white people, hispanic people, asian people, gay people, jewish people, Italian people....you get the idea.|
Originally Posted by SlyGuyMcFly
.... Are there any words in American English that are not pejorative slang for black people?
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Misappropriating the English language is an equal-opportunity thing.
Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
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Originally Posted by Thunderspark
Okay granted they don't want people writing their own triple-X fanfictions or inciting a religious war by saying bad things about the Pope or a certain prophet, but sometimes its just absurd.
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Yeah but maiden doesn't have the same punch ironicly the System Crashed on me and I haven't gone back to it and start again.
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Originally Posted by Smurch
Maidens?
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Doom/Batman in 2012
The Resistance has boobs too, and better hair!
The Resistance has boobs too, and better hair!
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Honkie and Cracker, by the way are those censored because in the interest of Fairness they should be!
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Originally Posted by SlyGuyMcFly
.... Are there any words in American English that are not pejorative slang for black people?
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Doom/Batman in 2012
The Resistance has boobs too, and better hair!
The Resistance has boobs too, and better hair!
Oh dear... I fear that Mr No Pants has just re-opened Pandora's Box...
Characters:
The Heroic Mary Grace (50)
The Mystical Thunderspark (50)
The Candy-loving Little Jenny (50)
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I heard long ago that it's because the list of censored words was copied from one used by a filter for another game that was capable of recognizing phrases, not just single words. Like "god damn". So various words that are just components of longer "offensive phrases" got censored.
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Originally Posted by Sorciere
Yeah, I never quite understood why the word "god" is filtered.
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Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
Lineage 2, is how I've heard it.
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"B5" was where the filter programmer's battleship was. Someone sank it. It was stricken from the game and forever filtered thereafter. For the filter programmer? He is VENGEANCE.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
I had a hell of a time trying to figure out why one of my arcs would not publish, it was giving me that "copyrighted/offensive word" thing but of course not saying WHAT was triggering it.
Turned out that it was the name of a detail. See, one mission had a large number of battles in it and each one had different groups and dialog. So to save space I named them B1, B2, B3... and so on. Turns out that "B5" is a forbidden combination of characters. /headdesk |
Storm Summoning is great because it makes you better than everyone else in the game. - Camma
Knockback is mitigation. It won't be removed just because meleers ***** and moan. - Chaos Creator
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No, that would interfere with the whole affirmative action ideal. disable anyone from using slurs against anyone other than white men. |
Originally Posted by Daimyo_Shi
Honkie and Cracker, by the way are those censored because in the interest of Fairness they should be!
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There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
"What the cabbage is $name doing here!"
"How in socks are you so powerful?!"
"Oh versimilitude! My evil plan is obfuscated!"
BackAlleyBrawler: I can't facepalm this post hard enough.
ShoNuff: If sophisticated = bro-mantically emo-tastic, then I'm going to keep to my Shonen loving simplicity dammit.