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Originally Posted by bracass
I 16 has the effect to make me leave.
on I 15, with AE, i pucked, but stayed, Now its over the top, just cant stay. |
Can I have your stuff then ?
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Originally Posted by bracass
I 16 has the effect to make me leave.
on I 15, with AE, i pucked, but stayed, Now its over the top, just cant stay. |
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But you're going to spend all remaining time on your subscription whining in the forums, right?
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Originally Posted by bracass
I 16 has the effect to make me leave.
on I 15, with AE, i pucked, but stayed, Now its over the top, just cant stay. |
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Not familair with that usage of "puck", can anyone fill me in? Typo maybe? Strange verb for an action made by people who hate the markets?? Brand of catfood???
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Originally Posted by bracass
I 16 has the effect to make me leave.
on I 15, with AE, i pucked, but stayed, Now its over the top, just cant stay. |
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Do you really want it? He pucked on it whatever that means...
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Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
Bye
Can I have your stuff then ? |
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Puck: (v) The act of dressing up with a donkey head on. Named after the Shakespearean character in 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' who gave Nick Bottom a donkey head.|
Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
Not familair with that usage of "puck", can anyone fill me in? Typo maybe? Strange verb for an action made by people who hate the markets?? Brand of catfood???
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In otherwords waaay TMI.
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Better than this AE mission I did the other day which was billed as "An improved version of the LRSF".|
Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
Puck: (v) The act of dressing up with a donkey head on. Named after the Shakespearean character in 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' who gave Nick Bottom a donkey head.
In otherwords waaay TMI. |
The "improvement" was that all the enemies were catgirls.
You haven't known true fear until you have seen "Neko as BaB". (one of my teamies informed me that "neko" is japanese for "cat").
<shudder>
If I stayed in the game after that mission, I think I'll be here for a while...
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There's no doubt that the market is more lucrative than actually playing the game. All I'm saying is that there's a limit to the price that salvage will rise to. Many players won't buy it on the market when it hits that ceiling because there is an alternate reliable source. This inherent downward pressure on demand results in an effective cap on rare salvage prices.|
Originally Posted by Hart
I think it depends. In the 30 minutes it takes me to make 540 tickets solo, I can make 90m on the market over 3 days. That's no an exaggeration or approximation, I limit myself to 10 minutes a day on the market so I can enjoy playing the game and turn over about 30m a day in profit.
I'd have to be looking at around 2m before I'd put a group together for many AE runs. I'd have to need several of whatever the 2m item was. In the long term, 540 tickets is 9 bronze rolls, which is likely to net you more than 1-2m when crafted and sold. You'd probably do better to pay for the item and spend the tickets on recipes, then craft and sell the results to recoup the infamy. |
Many players can run x8 teams now and generate 540 tickets in much, much less than 30 minutes. Because of that, rare salvage is unlikely to rise much above 1-2 million again. If it does, farming tickets in AE becomes viable way to generate influence, which will motivate people to do it, which will reduce prices until a stable equilibrium is reached again.
Of course, all that economic theory depends on rational and informed markets. And the last few years in the real world have demonstrated how silly that notion is
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Common and uncommon salvage seem to be coming back down to pre-AE levels already. Makes sense if recipe drop rates are down, and salvage rates are the same as they ever were. And of course, when people were AE farming, most were using their tickets on recipes, not salvage.
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I'm surprised the costume piece salvage market hasn't gone crazy. From what I've seen, prices have roughly doubled, but that's nothing. A big part of I16 involves costumes, and everyone who remembers the old wing prices knows how much people are willing to spend on costume stuff. Sure, there will be lots of costume salvage available in a month or so, but how many players have that kind of patience? In the short term, there is no way to generate new supplies. I suppose people still have stockpiles in their bases, but the base items don't hold as much as they used to.
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you can have my stuff, at least 10 pieces. just show up
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Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
Bye
Can I have your stuff then ? |
The only thing I've noticed is that a lot of common salvage has dropped in price drastically. Haven't seen much change in uncommon salvage.
Of course some items, like Alchemical Silver, are still vastly overpriced but that may be due in part to all the people playing new lowbie characters right now.
I have noticed a lot of set enhancements being sold for less than the cost of materials (at current prices) and crafting. The price of purples has dropped by about a third in the few cases where I knew the price well beforehand.
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Bleeding Stones were just selling for 500 or less on WW. Demonic Threat Reports had 4800 for sale and zero bidding. Most of the commons I listed were barely worth adding to the pile. I think I listed one arcane common at ~500, and the rest at less than 100 and a few at 5.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
The only thing I've noticed is that a lot of common salvage has dropped in price drastically. Haven't seen much change in uncommon salvage.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
On a side and perhaps unrelated note it is once again bringing the casual players who can't afford to purple out their warshades to the market forum to whine.
-Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein.
-I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
-When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson
I haven't done much marketeering (too busy playing with customization), but I have noticed somewhat of a return to the previous status quo- high level commons = trash, low level commons = bux. Or at least Luck Charms and Spell Scrolls- I've been running some lowbie MA arcs on my blaster (gotta be 20 for Doc Delilah, one level to go) and blowing all the tickets on arcane common salvage. I've been listing the luck charms for 100,001 and they all sell. Spell Scrolls are nearly as volatile.
The collapse of uncommons was totally predictable.
Has anyone checked out the price of rares?
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It's still slowly rising, as it has been since the collapse of things like "meow" farms in the AE.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Has anyone checked out the price of rares?
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The most I've seen any rare go for in a sustained way is around 2M, though. That's not been exhaustive investigation, though, just what I see while buying or selling them for my own needs.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Recipe rates have been pretty much the same, which is yet more proof drops are wrong.
Salvage has been coming down slower than expected and fluctuate wildly. It may be that more people have learned that they are not that lucrative a use of slots.
A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
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Platinum (which was the most expensive rare salvage in the pre-i13 era) has surged to around 4m blueside. It'll be interesting to see if it stays that high for long.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
It's still slowly rising, as it has been since the collapse of things like "meow" farms in the AE.
The most I've seen any rare go for in a sustained way is around 2M, though. That's not been exhaustive investigation, though, just what I see while buying or selling them for my own needs. |
My SG and I were monitoring WW all day yesterday and we noticed an upward trend to prices to all Salvage.
rares, which were good for 1mill started going to 2mil within minutes of our review.
Overall I am not hopeful that the market will drop.
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Actually, I've noted that some of the old cheapo salvage, such as Diamonds, which was frequently less than 1M inf pre-MA, is now under 1M again. On the black Market yesterday, its price was around 500k.
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Originally Posted by Imaheroe
My SG and I were monitoring WW all day yesterday and we noticed an upward trend to prices to all Salvage.
rares, which were good for 1mill started going to 2mil within minutes of our review. Overall I am not hopeful that the market will drop. |
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I 16 has the effect to make me leave.
on I 15, with AE, i pucked, but stayed,
Now its over the top, just cant stay.