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You can go back to him and he'll continue on. It's an auto-fed ex mission, like the ones for the PvP zones, the hollows, the security cheif, etc.
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;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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It's something more than that, perhaps a bug. I'm logged in now and selected him as a contact. A few curious things:
1. He doesn't show up on my Founder's map as a contact.
2. When I select him, he is shown as the "Vanguard DPO" on my Nav bar.
3. After clicking him, a dialog box appears that says, "I think you want Architect Studio Manager." It does not offer me a link for missions. It does not grant me a mission to go to the Architect Studio Manager.
4. In any case, I had already been given the Architect Studio Manager as a contact (when I first logged in with this toon) and I had already finished that mission well before contacting Cadao.
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In any case, I was originally hoping it was an indication that the devs were revamping the contact system. Now, I'm thinking it's a bug.
EDIT: Ignore #2 (showing up as Vanguard DPO). I had clicked on that icon in the map previously. It does not refer to Cadao.
However, Cadao does not show up on my map as a contact *at all.* I can see him, I can click on him (and the dialog box appears), and his name appears above his head when I do so. But that's the extent I can interact with him.
Okay, maybe I'm stating the obvious, but did another contact INTRODUCE you to him? If you just walk up to him without being sent to him by another contact, he'll basically tell you to go talk to someone else.
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1. Do you have 3 missions already?
2. Do you have an AE mission up and you're in AE pseudo-TF mode?
3. Do you have too many unfinished arcs from the other contacts (look for the open book icon next to all your contacts)?
4. Are you the right level?
5. Did you go and talk to the AE guy like you were told to? (Yes, even if you had already done so at an earlier level.)
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Okay, maybe I'm stating the obvious, but did another contact INTRODUCE you to him? If you just walk up to him without being sent to him by another contact, he'll basically tell you to go talk to someone else.
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Just a few general things that may be gumming up the works.
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I thought of that too, that I was not able to interact with him b/c I wasn't introduced to him first. So, I went back through my inactive contacts list and found Miriam Bloechl (Magic lvls 25-29, Talos) and Peter Stamitz (Magic lvls 30-34, Founders). I contacted Peter who, if past experience serves me right, should definitely introduce me to Cadao. He didn't (I also called Miriam just in case).|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Okay, maybe I'm stating the obvious, but did another contact INTRODUCE you to him? If you just walk up to him without being sent to him by another contact, he'll basically tell you to go talk to someone else.
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IIRC a previous Magic contact should introduce me to Cadao (either Peter Stemitz or Allison King). Also, IIRC all contacts show up on the map regardless of whether you actually have been introduced to them.
So, I bugged it. The most probable reason for this issue is that I haven't been introduced to Cadao, but for some reason, that's not how I remember them behaving (e.g., they only appear on your map if you've been introduced).
Finally, Indigo doesn't show up on my map either. And when I clicked on her, she says "Don't waste my time. Speak to Architect Studio Manager." Like Cadao, she does not grant me a mission nor does she offer me an opportunity to grab one.
Curious?
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1. No. I only have one.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
1. Do you have 3 missions already?
2. Do you have an AE mission up and you're in AE pseudo-TF mode? 3. Do you have too many unfinished arcs from the other contacts (look for the open book icon next to all your contacts)? 4. Are you the right level? 5. Did you go and talk to the AE guy like you were told to? (Yes, even if you had already done so at an earlier level.) |
2. No, I've been through AE missions so I know when I am in that mode or not.
3. Both Miriam Bloechl and Peter Stemitz are inactive contacts. See previous post re: what I did to "activate" Cadao.
4. Lvl 38 Tanker, so should be within range of Cadao (IIRC lvl 35-39). Interesting also that he says to go to Architect Manager (versus the typical, "I have nothing for you").
5. Yes, completed that a couple of weeks ago.
Again, this is the same for Indigo who doesn't show up on my map as well.
EDIT: @Thirty_Seven, the above should answer your question. I only have one mission in my log.
EDIT2: @Ironblade, I quoted exactly what Cadao "told" me (i.e., directing me to MA). I was expecting the typical, "can't talk to you yet," "talk with someone else," blah blah blah. But instead, it directed me to the MA. Unless this is bug, doesn't that seem that the Devs are planning something for Cadao (and Indigo)?
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That's the way they have always worked. IIRC, there are very few contacts you can just walk up and talk to. Those are usually Hazard zone contacts like David in The Hollows, Gordon in Croatoa, Stephanie in Striga, and the General in the Shard. Other contacts that you can just click on include ones that introduce you to new content, like the AE manager, the ones involved in crafting at the University, the contacts in Ouroboros, and Levantera in RWZ.|
Originally Posted by gWrath
The most probable reason for this issue is that I haven't been introduced to Cadao, but for some reason, that's not how I remember them behaving (i.e., they only appear on your map if you've been introduced).
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Originally Posted by gWrath
Finally, Indigo doesn't show up on my map either. And when I clicked on her, she says "Dont' waste me time. Speak to Architect Studio Manager." Like Cadao, she does not grant me a mission nor does she offer me an opportunity to grab one.
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Magic contacts that may introduce you to Cadao:
Azuria
Gregor Richardson
Genevieve Sanders
Laurence Mansfield
Paco Sanchez
Dr. Trevor Seaborn
Haley Phillips
Hugo Redding
Kong Bao
Thao Ku
Virginia Hoffman
Vitaly Cherenko
Andrea Mitchell
Colin Royce
Dr. Cheng
Joseph Keller
Oliver Hoak
Piper Irving
Laura Brunetti
Miriam Bloechl
Allison King
Peter Stemitz
You may also gain him as a contact after running other story arcs or completing Safeguard missions.
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I understand that. I'm familiar with the contact system. I've out leveled many contacts on my other toons. But I hadn't experienced being directed to MA versus "I have nothing for you. Talk to someone else." Also, I thought all contacts appeared on the map regardless of whether we've been introduced. *shrug*|
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
That's the way they have always worked. IIRC, there are very few contacts you can just walk up and talk to.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
You probably weren't introduced to her yet either. Besides the typical "I have nothing for you" message, contacts you have not been introduced to yet will usually send you to one of your other active contacts, or to one of the content-contacts I listed above, even if you have already run their "tutorial".
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Here, to get to Cadao, I thought I should be able to activate him through Peter Stemitz, b/c Peter is the previous Magic contact (lvl 30-34 range). But Peter does not give me that opportunity. That's different than what I remember and I've gone through the "origin contact ladder" a lot in the past. I haven't been gone *that* long.
I'm thinking something has changed, very subtle maybe. Like, a Magic contact for lvl 30-34 will not automatically give you a Magic contact lvl 35-39 once you out level it. It has in the past IIRC.
In any case, thanks to all the previous posters. I'll just have to find a way to activate Cadao.
Hmm. This is a bug, but I don't think it's the bug you think it is.
Looks like you're getting the "I haven't been introduced" message. To check what that message is, I talked to Crimson, Maria Jenkins, Harvey Maylor and Unai with a level 20-odd defender. Instead of referring me back to a current active contact, they referred me back to the Architect Studio Manager.
My theory is that the ASM shows as a contact for EVERY origin, and shows as high level. So if you'd normally be referred to your highest level natural contact, you get referred to the ASM. If you'd normally be referred to your highest level magic contact (Tobias Hansen, I think, for me) you get referred to the ASM. And so forth.
Edit: By "Referred" I don't mean "given as a new contact." I mean "Go back and talk to." I also don't have an explanation for why you're not getting your new contacts from your old contacts. I can confirm that, unless you have an introduction from an old contact, contacts do NOT show up on your map.
Because I can't shut up, I will suggest this: Your active contacts should include people who you've outlevelled, but who still have an introduction for you. Have you gone through your list of actives?
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If you have not done any of Peter's missions either, he might not care who you are to send you to Cadao. You'd have to go back to the previous tier (25-29) and check those contacts as well. |
Originally Posted by gWrath
Here, to get to Cadao, I thought I should be able to activate him through Peter Stemitz, b/c Peter is the previous Magic contact (lvl 30-34 range). But Peter does not give me that opportunity.
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If you have already done that, then I don't know what to tell you. It looks to me like it's working as intended, other than the message being a little misleading. Other people were complaining about that when AE came out as well. Like Fulmens implied, the AE Manager is a lvl 6-50 contact, making him always the highest lvl on your "to-do" list, and the un-introduced contacts will tell you to go talk to him, rather than one of your other active contacts.
Yes, even if you already completed the AE Manager's "tutorial", he'll still be on your "to-do" list because like you implied, your previous contact is normally the one that would send you to another contact, so it always defaults to telling you to go to the AE Manager as being your highest level contact.
Have you talked to every single one of the old contacts still listed in your Active Contacts list? All the outleveled contacts in your Active List have something for you to do/someone for you to see.
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Did you finish Croatoa? I seem to *always* get Cadao from the last Croatoa contact, without fail.
Alternate method - Put yourself on "No XP" and run newspaper missions in Founders until you get him as a contact post-Safeguard. (the "No XP" being suggested so you don't outlevel him.)
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Magic contacts that may introduce you to Cadao:
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She can't - she's lost his phone number
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In addition to older contacts, if you have other contacts that are in the same level range as Kestrel, one of them may introduce you (usually after doing enough missions to get the contact's phone number.)
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Only Mission Contacts that you have been introduced to/on your contact list appear on your map
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Also, IIRC all contacts show up on the map regardless of whether you actually have been introduced to them.
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I agree with this suggestion to get Cadao as a contact. The reason Indigo isn't showing up for you is because she's a level 40-44 contact and you're only 38.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Put yourself on "No XP" and run newspaper missions in Founders until you get him as a contact post-Safeguard. (the "No XP" being suggested so you don't outlevel him.)
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Also, if all you want is the Frontline badge mini arc, you can wait until level 40 and then run it via flashback. I think it comes available there at 40, and if you do it right at 40, you should still get XP for it.
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Thanks for the feedback, folks. An update:
Contacts appearing on Map:
Yeah, I'm thinking I had forgotten that only introduced contacts appear on the Map. They certainly do that now.
Indigo:
Afterward, I realized that Indigo was a bad example cuz she's L40-44, as Smilin_Joe noted.
Updating L35-39 contacts
I tried to update my remaining L35-39 contacts to see what happened. I had already gotten Gordon Stacy (Natural L35-39) and Ginger Yates (Science L35-39).
For the Tech contacts, my highest was Wilma Peterson (L20-24). I fininished 0% of her missions. When I visited her, I was pleasantly surprised; she introduced me to Anton Sampson (L35-39).
Same thing happened with my Mutation contact. I had Laurie Pennington (L25-29), with whom I skipped all of her missions. She introduced me to Colleen Nelson (L35-39), the contact appropriate for my lvl.
Now, I could swear that before, contacts would simply introduce you to the contact on the next "rung" (so Wilma should have introduced to a L25-29 Tech contact). So, I would have to travel around hitting those obsolete contacts until I got to the lvl I wanted. Here, I skipped the L25-29 and L30-34 rungs and went straight to the contact at my level. If that was a recent fix, I like it.
So what happened to Cadao?
Alas, I was not able to activate him and will have to resort to the suggestions suggested.
@Aggelakis - I double checked all my Magic contacts (mainly by calling them except for Peter whom I had to visit personally). All were on my inactive list: Hugo Redding => Viginia Hoffman => Piper Irving => Miriam Bloechl => Peter Stamitz. I didn't run any of Peter's missions. He doesn't introduce me to a subsequent contact. Odd, since the other non-Magic contacts were upated.
I wanted to run Frontline since I like that arc (and wanted the badge), but it's not a biggie; mainly I wanted to break up runnning AE mishs. I'll probably just wait to run it through Ouro but I intend to run L35-39 arcs so perhaps I'll get lucky.
To all who replied: thanks again for your help!
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Here, I skipped the L25-29 and L30-34 rungs and went straight to the contact at my level. If that was a recent fix, I like it.
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I suppose I vaguely remember it your way when I first started, but I wouldn't have been paying attention to lvl ranges or things like that at the time, so I really can't say for certain that it ever was or wasn't the way you remember it.
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I double checked all my Magic contacts (mainly by calling them except for Peter whom I had to visit personally). All were on my inactive list: Hugo Redding => Viginia Hoffman => Piper Irving => Miriam Bloechl => Peter Stamitz. I didn't run any of Peter's missions. He doesn't introduce me to a subsequent contact. Odd, since the other non-Magic contacts were upated.
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Magic contacts that may introduce you to Cadao: Azuria Gregor Richardson Genevieve Sanders Laurence Mansfield Paco Sanchez Dr. Trevor Seaborn Haley Phillips Hugo Redding Kong Bao Thao Ku Virginia Hoffman Vitaly Cherenko Andrea Mitchell Colin Royce Dr. Cheng Joseph Keller Oliver Hoak Piper Irving Laura Brunetti Miriam Bloechl Allison King Peter Stemitz |
I hope you find it. If not.. there's always the safeguard suggestion as well.
Don't bother checking contacts that are in your inactive list.
Call or visit every single contact that is in your active list. They either have stuff for you to do, or someone to introduce you to.
You didn't say you did this the last time I suggested it, so I'm suggesting it again. There are a few no-origin contacts in the game now that don't have origin restrictions on who they will introduce.
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I second this. Since they tabbed out the contacts, there IS no more "searching the old contacts" because they automatically go to active if they have something for you.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Don't bother checking contacts that are in your inactive list.
Call or visit every single contact that is in your active list. They either have stuff for you to do, or someone to introduce you to. You didn't say you did this the last time I suggested it, so I'm suggesting it again. There are a few no-origin contacts in the game now that don't have origin restrictions on who they will introduce. |
Been away for a couple of months. I wanted to run the Frontline story arc with Cadao Kestrel, but found that he just directed me to the Mission Architect. When did that change occur?
Are there other story arcs on hiatus? Will they come back or have they been reassigned?