City of Heroes: Movement Powers and PvP
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Posted on: 2009-08-31 08:43 in Everything about PvP
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I chuckled here.
| While it is not extremely uncommon in MMORPGs to establish patches and minor changes, major overhauls are not often as frequent. Where they have occurred, other trends have been established (i.e. The "Trammel" event in Ultima Online and the "NGE" event in Star Wars Galaxies). |
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
If hes really thinking the future might hold no travel powers, Im kind of disappointed with who they let write these articles.
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Didnt the player base complain about this and put Travel Supression in it's place?
| Another recommendation could be the use of Natural Response Mechanics (NRMs) as opposed to artifical ones (ARMs) like Travel Suppression. For example, a natural response to super speed, flight, and so on would be the lessening of accuracy. In this model, the faster you go, the more difficult it is for you to accurately target. The outcome, then, becomes natural: If you want to fight well, you slow down. Subsequently, an indirect response later becomes less people choosing the power, but not entirely discarding it as an option. |
I DO NOT KISS DEVS PRIMA DONNA *****.SO IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED AND THE TRUTH HURTS PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GO WORK FOR POKEMON.
I AM A GAME DESIGNER.I HOLD YOUR DECISIONS AND CHANGES UNDER HIGH SCRUTINY
THE WORST THING THAT WAS EVER CHANGED ON THIS GAME WAS THE CONSTANT NERFING AND WHEN THE DEVS STARTED MESSING WITH THE TRAVEL ABILITY.
TRAVEL SUPPRESION??? ARE YOU INSANE??? THE ONLY REASON IT WAS CHANGED WAS BECAUSE A DEV GOT HIS BUTT OWNED IN PVP BY SOMEBODY TELEPORTING IN AND TELEPORTING OUT...YOU KNOW ITS TRUE.
SO YOU SUPPRESS TRAVEL.iT IS SAD WHEN A FLYING BLASTER CANNOT ADVANCE UPON A TARGET HE JUST ZAPPED AND FINISH THE JOB BECAUSE OF TRAVEL SUPPRESSION.WASNT THE WHOLE POINT OF TRAVEL SUPPRESSION BECAUSE YOU DIDNT WANT SOMEBODY HITTING AND RUNNING?WELL NOW YOU MADE IT SO YOU HIT AND CANT ADAVANCE AND KILL.
IT IS PATHETIC THAT THE ENTIRE PVP COMMUNITY HAS TO USE SUPER JUMP.WHERE IS THE UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL NATURE?HUH?
ITS EITHER SUPER JUMP OR SUPER SPEED.....THAT IS LAME!
ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE NERFING....LET USE EPIC PFF FOR EXAMPLE.IN PVP WHAT IS EPIC ABOUT EPIC PFF??? HMMMM? NOTHING.
YOU HAVE RIDICULOUSLY NERFED SOMETHING THAT HAD NOOOOO BUSINESS BEING NERFED.YOU CANT ATTACK ANYTHING WHILE IN PFF SO WHY NERF IT? WHAT ? SO A FIGHT HAS TO BE OVER IN TWO MINUTES?...WHY?
THERE IS NOTHING EPIC ABOUT EPIC PFF.IT WAS COOL,BUT YOU LET ALL OF THE OVER POWWERED STALKERS AND BRUTES AND CORRUPTORS AND MASTERMINDS CRY AND SNIVEL UNTIL YOU GAVE IN AND NERFED A DEFENSE POWER....THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
YOU CANT KILL ANYTHING WITH PFF,YOU CANT GET A LARGER REPUTATION WITH PFF.AND UNDER THE NEW ENHANCEMENTS REWARDS COMING WITH THE NEW ISSUE YOU CANT GET ANY OF THOSE WITH PFF.....SO WHY NERF IT?
YOU HAVE UNFAIRLY MADE BLASTERS SQUISHY...NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE ICE ARMOR AND SUPER JUMP OR SPEED...MY HOVERING PFF BLASTER WAS UNIQUE AND A CHALLENGE TO OTHER BUILDS...YET YOU MADE IT SO i HAVE TO GET ICE AND JUMP LIKE EVERYONE ELSE OTHER THAN MAKING THINGS INTERESTING AND UNIQUE.
PERHAPS THE DEVS JUST LACK CREATIVE THOUGHT....WELL,YOU CAN ALWAYS BITE MY IDEA'S
ONE IDEA WOULD BE A "RAW POWER ZONE" NO NERFS!!!!TAKE EVERYTHING BACK BEFORE ALL THE NERFS...WHAT YOU BRING INTO ZONE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS...NO NERFING...NO CHEATS TO HELP THE LAME WIN.A RAW ZONE WOULD BE A VERY UNIQUE AND INTERESTING PLACE TO SEE WHO AND WHAT RIZES TO THE TOP.
PLUS I KNOW THERE IS A LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE DEVS AND THE VILLAIN SIDE.WHEN i WATCH A LVL 45 STALKER BEAT A LVL 50 TANK...YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG.ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE JUST KILLING THE GAMES TRUE AWESOMNESS?
WHAT? HAVE ALL OF YOU DEVS JUST BECOME LAZY AND CYNICAL?
RESTORE COH to its true form....or go develop for pokemon or wow.
No, the old version of superspeed had this but it was changed before the implementation of i13.
And this guy ^ is loud.
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Originally Posted by TheStarhawk
I DO NOT KISS DEVS PRIMA DONNA *****.SO IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED AND THE TRUTH HURTS PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GO WORK FOR POKEMON.
I AM A GAME DESIGNER.I HOLD YOUR DECISIONS AND CHANGES UNDER HIGH SCRUTINY THE WORST THING THAT WAS EVER CHANGED ON THIS GAME WAS THE CONSTANT NERFING AND WHEN THE DEVS STARTED MESSING WITH THE TRAVEL ABILITY. TRAVEL SUPPRESION??? ARE YOU INSANE??? THE ONLY REASON IT WAS CHANGED WAS BECAUSE A DEV GOT HIS BUTT OWNED IN PVP BY SOMEBODY TELEPORTING IN AND TELEPORTING OUT...YOU KNOW ITS TRUE. SO YOU SUPPRESS TRAVEL.iT IS SAD WHEN A FLYING BLASTER CANNOT ADVANCE UPON A TARGET HE JUST ZAPPED AND FINISH THE JOB BECAUSE OF TRAVEL SUPPRESSION.WASNT THE WHOLE POINT OF TRAVEL SUPPRESSION BECAUSE YOU DIDNT WANT SOMEBODY HITTING AND RUNNING?WELL NOW YOU MADE IT SO YOU HIT AND CANT ADAVANCE AND KILL. IT IS PATHETIC THAT THE ENTIRE PVP COMMUNITY HAS TO USE SUPER JUMP.WHERE IS THE UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL NATURE?HUH? ITS EITHER SUPER JUMP OR SUPER SPEED.....THAT IS LAME! ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE NERFING....LET USE EPIC PFF FOR EXAMPLE.IN PVP WHAT IS EPIC ABOUT EPIC PFF??? HMMMM? NOTHING. YOU HAVE RIDICULOUSLY NERFED SOMETHING THAT HAD NOOOOO BUSINESS BEING NERFED.YOU CANT ATTACK ANYTHING WHILE IN PFF SO WHY NERF IT? WHAT ? SO A FIGHT HAS TO BE OVER IN TWO MINUTES?...WHY? THERE IS NOTHING EPIC ABOUT EPIC PFF.IT WAS COOL,BUT YOU LET ALL OF THE OVER POWWERED STALKERS AND BRUTES AND CORRUPTORS AND MASTERMINDS CRY AND SNIVEL UNTIL YOU GAVE IN AND NERFED A DEFENSE POWER....THAT IS RIDICULOUS. YOU CANT KILL ANYTHING WITH PFF,YOU CANT GET A LARGER REPUTATION WITH PFF.AND UNDER THE NEW ENHANCEMENTS REWARDS COMING WITH THE NEW ISSUE YOU CANT GET ANY OF THOSE WITH PFF.....SO WHY NERF IT? YOU HAVE UNFAIRLY MADE BLASTERS SQUISHY...NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE ICE ARMOR AND SUPER JUMP OR SPEED...MY HOVERING PFF BLASTER WAS UNIQUE AND A CHALLENGE TO OTHER BUILDS...YET YOU MADE IT SO i HAVE TO GET ICE AND JUMP LIKE EVERYONE ELSE OTHER THAN MAKING THINGS INTERESTING AND UNIQUE. PERHAPS THE DEVS JUST LACK CREATIVE THOUGHT....WELL,YOU CAN ALWAYS BITE MY IDEA'S ONE IDEA WOULD BE A "RAW POWER ZONE" NO NERFS!!!!TAKE EVERYTHING BACK BEFORE ALL THE NERFS...WHAT YOU BRING INTO ZONE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS...NO NERFING...NO CHEATS TO HELP THE LAME WIN.A RAW ZONE WOULD BE A VERY UNIQUE AND INTERESTING PLACE TO SEE WHO AND WHAT RIZES TO THE TOP. PLUS I KNOW THERE IS A LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE DEVS AND THE VILLAIN SIDE.WHEN i WATCH A LVL 45 STALKER BEAT A LVL 50 TANK...YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG.ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE JUST KILLING THE GAMES TRUE AWESOMNESS? WHAT? HAVE ALL OF YOU DEVS JUST BECOME LAZY AND CYNICAL? RESTORE COH to its true form....or go develop for pokemon or wow. |
Holy nerd rage Batman.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
I love it when guys like this get on broadcast.
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I think he ran out of breath >_>
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Originally Posted by TheStarhawk
WHAT? HAVE ALL OF YOU DEVS JUST BECOME LAZY AND CYNICAL? RESTORE COH to its true form....or go develop for pokemon or wow. |
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Damn, just damn. So true except the nonsense about a stalker and a tank. I think I started hearing the theme song from Conan the Barbarian in my head when I was reading this.
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Originally Posted by TheStarhawk
I DO NOT KISS DEVS PRIMA DONNA *****.SO IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED AND THE TRUTH HURTS PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GO WORK FOR POKEMON.
I AM A GAME DESIGNER.I HOLD YOUR DECISIONS AND CHANGES UNDER HIGH SCRUTINY THE WORST THING THAT WAS EVER CHANGED ON THIS GAME WAS THE CONSTANT NERFING AND WHEN THE DEVS STARTED MESSING WITH THE TRAVEL ABILITY. TRAVEL SUPPRESION??? ARE YOU INSANE??? THE ONLY REASON IT WAS CHANGED WAS BECAUSE A DEV GOT HIS BUTT OWNED IN PVP BY SOMEBODY TELEPORTING IN AND TELEPORTING OUT...YOU KNOW ITS TRUE. SO YOU SUPPRESS TRAVEL.iT IS SAD WHEN A FLYING BLASTER CANNOT ADVANCE UPON A TARGET HE JUST ZAPPED AND FINISH THE JOB BECAUSE OF TRAVEL SUPPRESSION.WASNT THE WHOLE POINT OF TRAVEL SUPPRESSION BECAUSE YOU DIDNT WANT SOMEBODY HITTING AND RUNNING?WELL NOW YOU MADE IT SO YOU HIT AND CANT ADAVANCE AND KILL. IT IS PATHETIC THAT THE ENTIRE PVP COMMUNITY HAS TO USE SUPER JUMP.WHERE IS THE UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL NATURE?HUH? ITS EITHER SUPER JUMP OR SUPER SPEED.....THAT IS LAME! ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE NERFING....LET USE EPIC PFF FOR EXAMPLE.IN PVP WHAT IS EPIC ABOUT EPIC PFF??? HMMMM? NOTHING. YOU HAVE RIDICULOUSLY NERFED SOMETHING THAT HAD NOOOOO BUSINESS BEING NERFED.YOU CANT ATTACK ANYTHING WHILE IN PFF SO WHY NERF IT? WHAT ? SO A FIGHT HAS TO BE OVER IN TWO MINUTES?...WHY? THERE IS NOTHING EPIC ABOUT EPIC PFF.IT WAS COOL,BUT YOU LET ALL OF THE OVER POWWERED STALKERS AND BRUTES AND CORRUPTORS AND MASTERMINDS CRY AND SNIVEL UNTIL YOU GAVE IN AND NERFED A DEFENSE POWER....THAT IS RIDICULOUS. YOU CANT KILL ANYTHING WITH PFF,YOU CANT GET A LARGER REPUTATION WITH PFF.AND UNDER THE NEW ENHANCEMENTS REWARDS COMING WITH THE NEW ISSUE YOU CANT GET ANY OF THOSE WITH PFF.....SO WHY NERF IT? YOU HAVE UNFAIRLY MADE BLASTERS SQUISHY...NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE ICE ARMOR AND SUPER JUMP OR SPEED...MY HOVERING PFF BLASTER WAS UNIQUE AND A CHALLENGE TO OTHER BUILDS...YET YOU MADE IT SO i HAVE TO GET ICE AND JUMP LIKE EVERYONE ELSE OTHER THAN MAKING THINGS INTERESTING AND UNIQUE. PERHAPS THE DEVS JUST LACK CREATIVE THOUGHT....WELL,YOU CAN ALWAYS BITE MY IDEA'S ONE IDEA WOULD BE A "RAW POWER ZONE" NO NERFS!!!!TAKE EVERYTHING BACK BEFORE ALL THE NERFS...WHAT YOU BRING INTO ZONE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS...NO NERFING...NO CHEATS TO HELP THE LAME WIN.A RAW ZONE WOULD BE A VERY UNIQUE AND INTERESTING PLACE TO SEE WHO AND WHAT RIZES TO THE TOP. PLUS I KNOW THERE IS A LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE DEVS AND THE VILLAIN SIDE.WHEN i WATCH A LVL 45 STALKER BEAT A LVL 50 TANK...YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG.ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE JUST KILLING THE GAMES TRUE AWESOMNESS? WHAT? HAVE ALL OF YOU DEVS JUST BECOME LAZY AND CYNICAL? RESTORE COH to its true form....or go develop for pokemon or wow. |
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Correct me if im wrong.. but pre-i13 ladder pvp did ANYONE ever use fly?
1. Any MMO that has travel powers is challenging, all the kids and mommys playing games want to sit under the globe and fullfill their RP needs instead of actuall fighting. Anything that requres skill (real time action, movement etc etc) is too troublesome for majority nowdays. Yes, you can find challenge in FPS etc, but MMO players usually not interested so much in fighting or pvp. It is kind of sad but the game (MMORPG at least) development direction is determined by moms, lil kids and ppl who want to spend maybe 1 hour in game nowdays :/ Nerds/Skills age is over.
2. That loud guy deifinitelly doesn't know sh*t about game mechanics and bug issue with pff. I also can assume he never/rarely pvped on vill. I also would assume he got beaten by stalkers many times and doesn't know how to handle them. We saw this too many times. Usually because of care bears like this devs overnerf/overbuff **** in game.
3. Yes, people used SJ/SS mostly pre i13 just because fly wasn't fast enough due it actually offering more vertical controll than any other power. And honestly even now i wouldn't take fly because of webnades and hover being so retarded slow.
I love this game for UI, customization and battle system. I love travel power. I can't really think about any other MMO that offers so uniquie pvp system hower it is sad what devs did to pvp and pvp community. Honestly i think pvp was simply added to have it written on the box "Hey guys, we have it too" :/ Not to say omg i am leaving, but honestly only reason i didn't leave this game yet is just because i can't find anything that has features i love in coh. But again, what is the point to play game that has no pvp community and devs care **** about it?
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Yes, I think SW had a fly/SS specced empath. And I think Lastol had Fly/TP on his sonic.|
Originally Posted by Firi_
Correct me if im wrong.. but pre-i13 ladder pvp did ANYONE ever use fly?
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Was fly the best option? no. But it could be useable. Most of my team would have the temp fly pack and would fly straight up on open maps if their phase was down and they needed to evade a little. With the 63month vet badge, it would have been easier to fit fly into builds.
statesman watch used flying emps. FOL used a group fly group tp "turtle" that really really pissed off JAL lol.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...re/3459/page/1