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I can't imagine why folks would give you negative rep...
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Originally Posted by Ultimo_
(And I don't give a damn that there have been other threads on this, I'll post what I like, when I like. Maybe if they see enough complaining threads, they'll get rid of a stupid system.) |
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Funny, that's not how I read Bill's posts at all.|
Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
And see Bill, I can say the same about you, despite your green rep. I bet I wouldn't find much worth in your posts. Probably just mindless echoing of the popular opinion.
You flat-out stated that 1: Rep tells you someone's value as a poster. 2: Rep follows trends. I know for a fact that the trends rep follows are how close to the popular opinion you sit. Ergo it says to me that you consider the value of someone as a poster to be how close to the popular opnion they sit. that's fine, just makes me know that your worth as a poster means little to me. Now if I used your very logic, that would mean that to me, everyone with a green rep has no worth as a poster. |
But I am intrigued by what you know as a fact. Can you cite your official source please?
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
First time poster so forgive if Im in a wronge location started this game in beta and have tried about everything.What I have noticed in all my time now is a lack of stuff to do. And yes even tried AE .It was in fact AE that gave me this idea in AE you can auto sk and auto exempt why cant we use this in game as well with all the game contacts and allow us to go up to any contact any place and do there missions.I have always tried to do everything with all my contacts and hate it when I out level one without being able to finish it. I hear all the time about people wanting new content perhaps this would be one way to help with that.Getting all tha badges I would like is getting harder and harder as our numbers goes down and fewer people offering a badge mission from a contact that you might have missed or out leveled from just game play .
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First off, definitely the wrong spot to post this. Starting a new thread would be the way to go, but you got about half the location right, so whatever.|
Originally Posted by Revelation One
First time poster so forgive if Im in a wronge location started this game in beta and have tried about everything.What I have noticed in all my time now is a lack of stuff to do. And yes even tried AE .It was in fact AE that gave me this idea in A
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Still, your idea has no real meat to it. "More stuff" is relatively useless to the Devs. What, specifically, would you like? New enemy groups? New zones? The ability to switch sides? Just more badges? What?
Also, take a look around on the forums, and see what other people have suggested (in addition to checking out posts about Going Rogue, and other upcoming things that we know about), to see if any of those would be up your alley.
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"Ouroboros." Introduced several issues ago.
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Originally Posted by Revelation One
First time poster so forgive if Im in a wronge location started this game in beta and have tried about everything.What I have noticed in all my time now is a lack of stuff to do. And yes even tried AE .It was in fact AE that gave me this idea in AE you can auto sk and auto exempt why cant we use this in game as well with all the game contacts and allow us to go up to any contact any place and do there missions
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You can turn off XP if you are close to out leveling a contact. You can also use the flashback system in Ouroboros. It's not a perfect way of doing it, but you do have options.
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Originally Posted by Revelation One
I have always tried to do everything with all my contacts and hate it when I out level one without being able to finish it.
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Simple, 90% of the neg feedback I get, or I see people get, comes from them simply not agreeing with the popular opinion, and actually having the balls to say something about it.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
Funny, that's not how I read Bill's posts at all.
But I am intrigued by what you know as a fact. Can you cite your official source please? |
yeah, some people get neg feedback for actually being stupid buttmonkeys, and other times people will get neg feedback just because they annoyed someone.. neither of these are the points which get you a lot of negative feedback. (Unless the person persisits in being a stupid buttmonkey >.>)
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Popular opinion is just that: an opinion. Your limited sample does not constitute a fact. It is just YOUR opinion on how it plays out on a larger scale. You have no evidence to back up your opinion.|
Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
Simple, 90% of the neg feedback I get, or I see people get, comes from them simply not agreeing with the popular opinion, and actually having the balls to say something about it.
yeah, some people get neg feedback for actually being stupid buttmonkeys, and other times people will get neg feedback just because they annoyed someone.. neither of these are the points which get you a lot of negative feedback. (Unless the person persisits in being a stupid buttmonkey >.>) |
And, let me just say this now: there is no grand popular opinion on these forums. There is nobody controlling how the majority views an issue. There is simply a collection of individuals which can feel whatever way it wants on any given topic. If you create a bad suggestion, more people are probably not going to like it. Some may give you negative rep for suggesting it. Don't interpret that as a larger group also mad at you for making a suggestion that you don't like.
You have come to the conclusion that you have, and nobody can talk you out of that if you don't want them to. But please learn the difference between fact and opinion, and about extrapolation of data.
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So you "know" a universal fact based upon your stated receptions of negative rep of what you assume are or are not the popular opinions?|
Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
Simple, 90% of the neg feedback I get, or I see people get, comes from them simply not agreeing with the popular opinion, and actually having the balls to say something about it.
yeah, some people get neg feedback for actually being stupid buttmonkeys, and other times people will get neg feedback just because they annoyed someone.. neither of these are the points which get you a lot of negative feedback. (Unless the person persisits in being a stupid buttmonkey >.>) |
And in an anonymous system you are also assuming a lot about who is giving it.
I think your usage of "know" would run contrary to what it actually means as a word.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
And for what it is worth, I think rep is stupid and was quite surprised they left it available/on/anonymous whatever options they had available on it.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Giggles,
Not sure what reputation really means, it appears to be quite subjective and as result meaningless.
What would keep an SG/VG simply posting positive votes to members to jack their rep up, and a competing SG/VG just slam you vote wise as well? Or you using a second account to pat your own back?
I feel the lack of arbitration in the "vote" for reputation makes the whole thing at best pyrric, now if CoX would read the comment of the vote and then allocate the "+" or "-", then reputation could possibly have a meaning, till then its at best an ego trip for those with a green bar...Can I have one too, please?
Ha ha ha
Stormy
We need bar color customization.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
In the relatively short time that rep has been active, I have never seen someone with a rep counter to what I would predict from their posting history.
I don't endorse the rep system as it is implemented, because I think it is easily gamed and provides no information I couldn't determine otherwise; but I also don't buy into the idea that people with low rep are enlightened iconoclasts (though they frequently believe that they are).
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If you bothered to look at Billz posting history, you would see that isn't the case. Though it's so much easier to just spout nonsense to try to make your point, yes? |
Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
And see Bill, I can say the same about you, despite your green rep. I bet I wouldn't find much worth in your posts. Probably just mindless echoing of the popular opinion.
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Ones worth as a poster is subjective, based off numerous factors.|
Originally Posted by BayBlast
If you bothered to look at Billz posting history, you would see that isn't the case. Though it's so much easier to just spout nonsense to try to make your point, yes?
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And, see, I was making a point with perhaps information that was untrue. Judging someone by their rep, is .. idiotic. I did not intend it to sound as if I really felt that way. (I dislike his atitude about rep "It's fine, leave it as is, if you don't like it you're just a worthless poster with a bad rep.")
To say "Well, he has a red rep, that means he's got no worth as a poster." is no different than saying "Well, he has a green rep, which means he just tends to follow whatever the popular opinion is, and is otherwise well-liked on the forums."
they are both equally meaningless statements that are only true in some cases.
And, for those who've said there isn't a running "popular opinion" on this forum.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Look at this specific forum, look at a lot of the hot threads in the I16 section.
You will find that a large number of the forum-base lean in one direction. Those who lean in the opposite direction are repeatedly neg-repped for "not getting it."
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Well said.|
Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
Ones worth as a poster is subjective, based off numerous factors.
And, see, I was making a point with perhaps information that was untrue. Judging someone by their rep, is .. idiotic. I did not intend it to sound as if I really felt that way. (I dislike his atitude about rep "It's fine, leave it as is, if you don't like it you're just a worthless poster with a bad rep.") To say "Well, he has a red rep, that means he's got no worth as a poster." is no different than saying "Well, he has a green rep, which means he just tends to follow whatever the popular opinion is, and is otherwise well-liked on the forums." they are both equally meaningless statements that are only true in some cases. And, for those who've said there isn't a running "popular opinion" on this forum. You have no idea what you're talking about. Look at this specific forum, look at a lot of the hot threads in the I16 section. You will find that a large number of the forum-base lean in one direction. Those who lean in the opposite direction are repeatedly neg-repped for "not getting it." |
(see, I like doing it this way, rather than a useless, pointless rep mark)
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Ok... Something about Legacy of Kain...
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
Nope but here's a hint:
Vae Victus, suffering to the conquered, ironic now I was the one suffering... and Paladin Those are the hints  |
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Funny story: Someone tried to neg rep me again for the same reason, but apparently failed and just gave me a gray dot instead. |
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Hell, I've been neg repped for being a member of the Forum Cartel
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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They make these special hats for people like you and you can pick one up from your local store...just look for a box labeled "aluminum foil."|
Originally Posted by ToySoldierZolgar
You will find that a large number of the forum-base lean in one direction. Those who lean in the opposite direction are repeatedly neg-repped for "not getting it."
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But feel free to continue this baseless assumption as I find it entertaining...WAIT! Are you Ultimo's 2nd account?!!?
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He's not, and he's right.|
Originally Posted by Clouded
They make these special hats for people like you and you can pick one up from your local store...just look for a box labeled "aluminum foil."
But feel free to continue this baseless assumption as I find it entertaining...WAIT! Are you Ultimo's 2nd account?!!? |
I was negative repped just for agreeing with him.
I just want to hug you guys!!!
A few days ago I was red reputation, and I asked in this thread to help me out. Now I am in the green, giggles, I wub you all, giggles
Stormy
Because when I read it, I thought of this thread...
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Originally Posted by Niviene
The Rep system is nothing more than a forum game and a way for you to have fun with each other. It was not left turned on to allow players an anonymous way to abuse, troll and attack other players.
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HA! You were *WROOOONG* BillZ! W. R. O. N. G. WRROOOooOoOOOoNGGgg.... ggg.
No link between rep and level of worth of a poster!
Now give me some -rep, I want the cool looking red bubs. I think the status description for them is kinda cool too.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
Because when I read it, I thought of this thread...
Source HA! You were *WROOOONG* BillZ! W. R. O. N. G. WRROOOooOoOOOoNGGgg.... ggg. No link between rep and level of worth of a poster! Now give me some -rep, I want the cool looking red bubs. I think the status description for them is kinda cool too. |
Ummm...how does that prove BillZ wrong? He was expressing his opinion of how he viewed the system, not how others had to. No, there is no official correlation between the two. That doesn't preclude an unofficial one.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
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"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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For what he said rep was for (gauging the overall worth of a poster's contributions), it certainly doesn't and if it's suppose to it's broken. But I was wrong and the rep system is 'working as intended'.|
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Ummm...how does that prove BillZ wrong? He was expressing his opinion of how he viewed the system, not how others had to. No, there is no official correlation between the two. That doesn't preclude an unofficial one.
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Well I'm not wrong today! It's a *game*, no more a symbol of net worth than rumors someone spreads behind your back.
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