"Slotting Purples"
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Barata,
Posted on: 2009-08-08 07:13 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Oh my god, this is so cool! I thought I was a minority! xD
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Originally Posted by Barata
You too? I put that in my Fireball and love it. The fireball itself is like a minor explosion. Seeing some of the mobs get tossed up from it just seems right.
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Originally Posted by Bright_Shadow
Oh my god, this is so cool! I thought I was a minority! xD
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Not at all, I got it in Nightfall, its wicked mitigation. I also got the +hold proc in unbreakable restraint in my Tents, hehe.
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It just seems sooooo right thematically! I couldn't care less about the mitigation aspect. It helps a little, but when you're high enough that you're starting to slot purples, you generally don't benefit much from having a couple mobs get knocked down. It's just all kinds of awesome to see fireball explode and all those mobs get tossed around. Also, it's not like you sacrifice much. Even though it uses a slot, you still have plenty of damage and accuracy and recharge and endurance reduction.|
Originally Posted by Bright_Shadow
Oh my god, this is so cool! I thought I was a minority! xD
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I also put the purple ranged Chance for Energy Damage proc in Chillblain (my blaster is fire/ice). That definitely has increased the overall damage of Chillblain. Chillblain is one of the best blaster Tier 1 secondary powers, and it does somewhere between minor and moderate damage. With that one proc for energy damage, the overall damage output has increased noticeably. I use that power a lot and it's part of my attack string. The only time I don't use it is if someone lays an ice patch down or some other knockdown effect. The energy proc has definitley upped my damage output.
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Originally Posted by Demobot
Chances are that purple prices will begin to decline after I16 is released, what with being able to set spawn sizes to the equivalent of an 8-man team and all.
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I myself won't be doing 8 man, but I will be upping it to about 4 or 5, and with the way percentages are set, I should get atleast 1 purple every 5 - 10 paper/radio mishes along with a load of money. However, I think you are right, it may not be a steep decline but I think prices across the market will be going down.
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I'm with this. The only reason I have my difficulty set at 4 and not 5 is for larger spawns. As a bot MM, I do a ton of AoE, and the bigger the spawn the more damage I do. I'd like to think he will be able to handle 5 man spawns. I'll push the envelope as necessary. He'll hit 50 probably just before i16 hits, so I can drop the level back to evens and mass-murder till the purples rain.
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Originally Posted by Da_Captain
I myself won't be doing 8 man, but I will be upping it to about 4 or 5, and with the way percentages are set, I should get atleast 1 purple every 5 - 10 paper/radio mishes along with a load of money. However, I think you are right, it may not be a steep decline but I think prices across the market will be going down.
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It's funny - I chose this moment in CoH history (the advent of AE, the reduction in supply, and the corresponding huge price inflation of IOs and Salvage in general, and Purps specifically) to purple out my Main PB. I simply enjoy playing her and also saw this as a very big challenge.
I started maybe 3 months ago, and I now have 24 purples slotted, and it hasn't been that difficult. While I've had more purple drops than I thought I'd have, by far most of them I've gotten from Went's. You see, the price inflation works both ways. I sell Salvage, Crafted IOs, and Purps I can't use for prices way higher that we used to get. So, even though the Purples I want are priced outrageously, I have *alot* more money to buy them with. Seems to about even out.
And really, all I do is play: repeatables, TFs, other players' arcs. The only thing I do that could really be considered farming is the occasional venture to Wall in Cimerora. You'd be amazed at how my Human Only PB can mow down those legions - She does it better than my lvl 50 Brute (one day I may record it to show...). It doesn't feel like farming cuz it's such fun...
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I've got one in my Dom's Fire Breath, though she has the whole Ragnarok set, too. It's fun in there. Looks like she breathes out fire so fast that it knocks people on their butts. It's also very nice for giving me some mitigation against anybody who gets missed in the initial stalagmites barrage.
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Originally Posted by Bright_Shadow
Oh my god, this is so cool! I thought I was a minority! xD
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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I gotta try that some time.
Originally Posted by Kelenar
I've got one in my Dom's Fire Breath, though she has the whole Ragnarok set, too. It's fun in there. Looks like she breathes out fire so fast that it knocks people on their butts. It's also very nice for giving me some mitigation against anybody who gets missed in the initial stalagmites barrage.
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try popping that proc into freezing rain or oil slick. It's just awesome.
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Originally Posted by Bright_Shadow
Actually, there are some purples that are very cheap proportionally.
One of the purple IOs I absolutely love is Ragnorak: Chance for Knockdown. People keep telling me it's inefficient. But I dunno. I just love a bunch of Cimerorans get blasted down to their butts from a fire ball! :P I have it on almost all my characters who have a Ranged AoE attack with no built-in knockdown functionality. It's fun! xD |
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me too Goat. |
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I've got that one in the Goat's Rain of Fire.
Super fun- the more the merrier! |
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My main toon is a L50 Katana/Willpower Scrapper (awesome combo, imho) named Unspoken Covenant (don't ask) on Virtue. He's been L50 for about 3 months now. I've run a bunch of mishes with him since then. Last Friday, he and some buds from our SG (The Island of Misfit Heroes) did the Reichsman TF. We beat the big bad Nazi, and what did I get for a drop?|
Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
It's pretty easy: kill enemies over lvl 47. Beyond that, it's all "luck" revolving around the RNG.
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Inanimate Carbon Rod and a L50 Disorient IO (Not a Set) Recipe. I'm not joking.
In the immortal words of Charlie Brown: 'I got a rock.'
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Yeah, it kinda sucks they way they have the system now, I think as far as the drop rates go it is something like this.|
Originally Posted by Wanderer
My main toon is a L50 Katana/Willpower Scrapper (awesome combo, imho) named Unspoken Covenant (don't ask) on Virtue. He's been L50 for about 3 months now. I've run a bunch of mishes with him since then. Last Friday, he and some buds from our SG (The Island of Misfit Heroes) did the Reichsman TF. We beat the big bad Nazi, and what did I get for a drop?
Inanimate Carbon Rod and a L50 Disorient IO (Not a Set) Recipe. I'm not joking. In the immortal words of Charlie Brown: 'I got a rock.' |
Minion 2%
LT/Snipers 6%
Bosses 9% (Not sure on these going from memory since I can't find it on paragonwiki)
of those drops you have like a 2% chance of getting a purple.
I have ran a couple of tests as far as trying to calculate how long it would take someone to get one. I did nothing but radio mishes and skipped the bank ones, solo it took approx 25 mishes before I got one. The next day I did 22 and got one off of a LT. And on my last day of solo testing I did 32 before I got one.
I was not able to do team testing as often I was solo, but I was able to get one day in. Did a total of 3 TFs and about 10 paper mishes. Started with 2 ITFs back to back and got nothing but common IOs. Then went to PI and ran with a full team for about 10 mishes, got a couple of Uncommons, a couple of rares, and a butload of commons. Then I got a tell to join a LGTF and it was probably like the 2nd mish I got it.
At the end of all of this and it was said and done, without including what I made off of the purples, and just including how much I made off of market selling and just selling, I had enough to buy a couple of purples maybe even a set (depending on the set).
Would I say it is worth it NOW? Depends on the person. To me, No. I would rather not spend all day solo trying to get one thing, if it comes it comes. And the toon I used to get them has no purples, just regular sets like ToD, Mako's Bite, GFC, etc. However, it was nice to have enough money to get some of the uniques that I wanted.
So on average if you do about 23 - 28 mishes solo, killing all enemies on map, you should get one (Not a guarantee though).
Now here is the good thing, it isn't worth it to me now, but in i16 when I can get on a map set for 4 or 5 this could possibly take the number down from 23 - 28 mishes to 5 - 8 mishes.
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Make that 25! Just purchased another Armageddon for my Human PB for the Low Steal-of-a-Price $180,000,000 haha. So, with one more Armageddon and I'll have 1 Set 6-slotted, and 4 others 5-slotted. I'll pick another goal after that - and just fill the last 4 un-purple slots *if* they happen to fall |
Originally Posted by Socorro
...I started maybe 3 months ago, and I now have 24 purples slotted...
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Maybe I'll IO out my Tri-form build (non-Purples though haha)
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It's just as funny in Fistful of Arrows, which I have slotted with a Ragnarok set on my Archery/Energy Blaster. Those must be some heavy arrows to knock a fully armoured Roman Legionary or a power-armoured Crey tank on his backside! |
Originally Posted by Kelenar
I've got one in my Dom's Fire Breath, though she has the whole Ragnarok set, too. It's fun in there. Looks like she breathes out fire so fast that it knocks people on their butts. It's also very nice for giving me some mitigation against anybody who gets missed in the initial stalagmites barrage.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
While I've had more purple drops than I thought I'd have, by far most of them I've gotten from Went's. You see, the price inflation works both ways. I sell Salvage, Crafted IOs, and Purps I can't use for prices way higher that we used to get. So, even though the Purples I want are priced outrageously, I have *alot* more money to buy them with. Seems to about even out.
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I find that with purple prices so high, it's really quite easy to make huge profits off reselling them. I don't think I've ever had a purple recipe of value actually drop for me, but I've made thousands of millions off the surge in purple prices. I'm waiting until the prices drop enough to where this is slightly less lucrative to bother slotting any fresh purples.
I also have to agree on Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown being super fun. I wish it was a 33% chance like other purples rather than its dinky little 20% chance, though.
My favorite purple other than that is definitely Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage. Plop it in Spine Burst or Footstomp and pretend it's an extra crit. In some characters, I've slotted this as my only purple, no set bonus incentive required.
Other than that purples are kind of a waste of money. They always were, really. Even when the most expensive one was 50 million. You could generally get way more from normal sets for the money, sets that gave things like positional defense bonuses that purples tend not to. The newer sets like Obliteration's extra shiny set bonuses combined with the rising price of purples illustrate this even more.
Reasons to get purples:
1. Selling/Reselling. Especially now, with the prices so big.
2. Jewelry. Showing off your build, making your favorite character or characters the shiniest you can get it.
3. The exemplaring bonus if you frequently run low level content. I made a blaster that I used to solo positron for merits, which I gave 26 purples to so it could have +50% global recharge and tons of global accuracy and recovery at a very low level.
4. The procs, talked about above.
5. Need to flush your inf down the toilet due to the 2 billion cap per character.
All of the above are pretty good reasons.
Well, sometimes the Purple Gods just smile on you. I've had 4 Purple Drops in the last two weeks. 3 were the less desired types (2 Unbreak. Constraints, 1 Abs. Amazement - these sell for less) and 1 was a Ragnarok. Selling all these, I was able to get Armageddon #5 and have 150 Million Inf left over.
So now my main has 26 Purples and I don't have another power I can put purples in (unless I respect to get Pulsar and put Absolute Amazments in it, but that's not happening). I'm now considering her effectively 'Purpled Out'.
Did it in about 3 months, folks, in the current inflated game economy, playing normal missions and no farming (except the occasional Roman Wall - but that's too much fun to be considered farming). So it most certainly can be done.
It's just a goal I set, but really, if you don't enjoy playing a particular toon, don't bother. The reward alone isn't worth the grind. Fortunately, I really enjoy playing mine.
One of the purple IOs I absolutely love is Ragnorak: Chance for Knockdown.
People keep telling me it's inefficient. But I dunno. I just love a bunch of Cimerorans get blasted down to their butts from a fire ball! :P
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