A well built IO'd Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker is the best farmer that I know of (especially since they can easily farm full Portal Missions as well as MA farms).
Shield/Fire/Pyre and Shield/SS/Pyre are the other great farm builds but both of these tend to be a bit squishy is some of the heavier farms.
Shield/DM
WP/SS
Both of these are the best set-ups i've come across.
Fire/fire/pyre is great, am trying fire/fire/earth myself, quicksand is nice for helping keep mobs in burn.
Dark Armor is like that kid you knew in school that didn't know when to shut up, and no matter how bad he got beaten down, he got right back up again and kept on talking.
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Shield/DM is decent (especially from a survivability point of view) but doesn't have the raw output the others I've mentioned do (and Fire/Fire/Pyre will blow away SD/DM for farming speed).|
Originally Posted by Shen__EU
Shield/DM
WP/SS Both of these are the best set-ups i've come across. |
WP/SS (and assuming Pyre) is good ... not as fast as the others I've mentioned but good all around (and not as squishy as Shield/Fire or Shield/SS).
I farm with my Fire/Ice/Pyre Tank pretty well and I have no problems keeping mobs in my burn patch.
Although if I were going to spend the effort on a farm toon I'd probably go with a Scrapper or Fire/Kin Controller over a Tanker.
They can do the samething in any farm and do it about 10 times as fast given equivelant farm builds.
i farm ok with a fire fire tank and a shield fire tank. both do ok. and i dont bother anyone cos i can do it all myself.
Kin Hell Fire
Barline
Bibbi.
Slushy Kins
Nuria Dark
Fire/Fire
Fire/SS
Fire/Ice
SD/Fire
SD/SS
SD/Ice
Are prolly your best bets.
/DM would be a terrible farmer (so would /Stone & /EM), if by "farmer" you mean someone who can defeat endless hoards of easy to kill mobs w/AoEs for XP and/or profit. I don't care how good you are at lining up SM, you're not going to catch as many as FSC (+Combustion) or FS or FA (+Frost), and AoEs are where it's at for farming.
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Oh noes.....faaAAArrrrming!!!
:P
Fire/SS/Pyre makes a good build for Solo and Team farming. With some IOing it also makes a decent 8 man mission tank, giving you the option to pick one or the other.
Well, my Fire/Fire/Earth Tank is a decent farmer but I wouldn't say that any Tanker would be the best for farming.
My Claws/WP scrapper actually manages to kill things nearly twice as fast and can still survive pretty much everything I've thrown at him so far. Fire/Kin Controllers (when built right) are also farming machines.
But if you really want a tank for farming then I would recommend either Fire/Fire/Earth (Quicksand+Burn is very nice) or Fire/SS (Rage for permanent damage and ToHit Boost + Footstomp for extra damage and mitigation against maps full of mobs).
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not true at all..|
Originally Posted by Kruunch
Although if I were going to spend the effort on a farm toon I'd probably go with a Scrapper or Fire/Kin Controller over a Tanker.
They can do the samething in any farm and do it about 10 times as fast given equivelant farm builds. |
in the ae fire/kins cant do half of what fire tanks can do....
maybe regular farms they can do as good but not in the a.e....in 90% of the farms in a.e. they would die within seconds.
also wp/ss isnt great for tanks....however a ss/wp brute with full fury is...gettting the aoe from gw patron and your all set.
with that said...fire/fire has been and will be the #1 farm/pl tank since issue 2 when it was wolve farms,freaks farms,ninja farms to date!
6 aoes possible on a fire/fire tank....no other combo has it. plus you add in f.e. and b.u. for almost 180% damage increase..yeah its good.
i still solo farm....everyone but me doorsits...in what can be farmed in the a.e...most goes past the aggro limit so its better they sit.
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PUHHHHHHHHHHHHleeez|
Originally Posted by Coldmed
not true at all..
in the ae fire/kins cant do half of what fire tanks can do.... maybe regular farms they can do as good but not in the a.e....in 90% of the farms in a.e. they would die within seconds. also wp/ss isnt great for tanks....however a ss/wp brute with full fury is...gettting the aoe from gw patron and your all set. with that said...fire/fire has been and will be the #1 farm/pl tank since issue 2 when it was wolve farms,freaks farms,ninja farms to date! 6 aoes possible on a fire/fire tank....no other combo has it. plus you add in f.e. and b.u. for almost 180% damage increase..yeah its good. i still solo farm....everyone but me doorsits...in what can be farmed in the a.e...most goes past the aggro limit so its better they sit. |
My 200mil influence Spines/Fire Scrapper would so run circles around your billion influence Fire Tanker in an AE farm.
And my epeen is bigger too
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That's also not true. I normally hate AE farming, but on a dare, I followed in a Fire/Ice tank into one of his AE farms w/my Ill/Kin, who's not even close to a farm build, but has high def (not quite capped once SI in suppressed to 1/2). Since PA quickly hits the aggro cap in a room w/like 200 mobs packed in, that's completely out of the equation, and Phanty pretty much died instantly, but I survived a really long time while pumping out FS'ed Fireballs as soon as they recharged, and only really died cuz I got careless during an unlucky string of hits.|
Originally Posted by Coldmed
not true at all..
in the ae fire/kins cant do half of what fire tanks can do.... maybe regular farms they can do as good but not in the a.e....in 90% of the farms in a.e. they would die within seconds. |
Now, obviously, the tank doesn't have to worry about such an unlucky string, which you're going to run into sooner or later, but a properly built Fire/Kin could prolly farm w/the best tanks w/just a few trips back from the hosp, which is really very close anyway. And the higher damage output (FS'ed HF, Fireball, Cages & Bonfire) would prolly make up for most/all of that travel & zoning time.
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A really mediocre built Fire/Kin will out farm any Tanker.|
Originally Posted by dave_p
That's also not true. I normally hate AE farming, but on a dare, I followed in a Fire/Ice tank into one of his AE farms w/my Ill/Kin, who's not even close to a farm build, but has high def (not quite capped once SI in suppressed to 1/2). Since PA quickly hits the aggro cap in a room w/like 200 mobs packed in, that's completely out of the equation, and Phanty pretty much died instantly, but I survived a really long time while pumping out FS'ed Fireballs as soon as they recharged, and only really died cuz I got careless during an unlucky string of hits.
Now, obviously, the tank doesn't have to worry about such an unlucky string, which you're going to run into sooner or later, but a properly built Fire/Kin could prolly farm w/the best tanks w/just a few trips back from the hosp, which is really very close anyway. And the higher damage output (FS'ed HF, Fireball, Cages & Bonfire) would prolly make up for most/all of that travel & zoning time. |
Unless you're being silly and farming EBs or something equally as ridiculous.
I don't think a mediocre Fire/Kin would survive in some of the AE farm maps out there. I don't mean all EBs or even all bosses, but where the mobs were so tightly packed that you'd easily surpass any AoE caps (for aggro, control or damage) and things will hit you if your defenses weren't very high (and even then). But a properly build farmer... yeah, it'll easily outstrip a tank, even w/some deaths.
An Offensive Guide to Ice Melee
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GM Farm!!|
Originally Posted by Kruunch
A really mediocre built Fire/Kin will out farm any Tanker.
Unless you're being silly and farming EBs or something equally as ridiculous. |
Is this why nobody wants to team with me??
Hello there, I was going to start a new thread for this, but felt it was more appropriate to put it in here.
Its basically another "rate my build" post. I kinda get the feeling these kinds of posts can get annoying - but I really, really want input on this build. So I appologize in advance.^^
The following are two builds for a Fiery Aura / Super Strength Tanker I am leveling up. The first is his build at level 32 and the second level 50. My primary goal is solo and group farming.
In each build, I attempted to max out defense for smash & lethal damage with IO sets.
For the level 50 build I was able to reach 44.5%. I understand that 45% is a target number refered to as the "soft cap." Will missing it by 0.5% greatly diminish my defense?
Also, I read that Invulability tankers can reach the soft cap for S/L damage by lvl 32. Is this possible with a Fiery Aura tanker?
In addition, this is my first "farming" toon. I understand that its all about AoE damage. Do I have that covered with Blazing Aura, Burn, Foot Stomp, and Fire Ball boosted by Rage and Fiery Embrace?
Thanks in advance for any advise you all can offer!
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Capt.Fusion: Level 32 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Fire Shield
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
(3) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(7) Resist Damage IO: Level 35
Level 1: Jab
(A) Smashing Haymaker - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(3) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(9) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(23) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 2: Blazing Aura
(A) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(5) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(9) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(15) Accuracy IO: Level 35
Level 4: Healing Flames
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 35
(5) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 35
(31) Healing IO: Level 40
Level 6: Boxing
(A) Smashing Haymaker - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(7) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(11) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(15) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 8: Combat Jumping
(A) Defense Buff IO: Level 35
Level 10: Haymaker
(A) Smashing Haymaker - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(19) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(19) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(23) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 12: Plasma Shield
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 35
(13) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 35
(13) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 35
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Jumping IO: Level 35
Level 16: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 35
Level 18: Health
(A) Healing IO: Level 35
Level 20: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 35
(21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 35
(21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 35
Level 22: Acrobatics
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 35
Level 24: Knockout Blow
(A) Smashing Haymaker - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(25) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(25) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(29) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(31) Accuracy IO: Level 35
Level 26: Tough
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 35
(27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 35
(27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(29) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 28: Weave
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 35
Level 30: Rage
(A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff: Level 20
(31) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 20
Level 32: Fiery Embrace
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 35
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Gauntlet
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Set Bonus Totals:
16.1% Defense(Smashing)
16.1% Defense(Lethal)
3% Defense(Fire)
3% Defense(Cold)
8% Defense(Energy)
8% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
9.56% Defense(Melee)
5.5% Defense(Ranged)
3% Defense(AoE)
84.3 HP (4.5%) HitPoints
MezResist(Immobilize) 12.1%
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
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Set Bonuses:
Steadfast Protection
(Fire Shield)
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
3% Defense(All)
Smashing Haymaker
(Jab)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
Cleaving Blow
(Blazing Aura)
1% (0.02 End/sec) Recovery
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
Reactive Armor
(Healing Flames)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Smashing Haymaker
(Boxing)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
Smashing Haymaker
(Haymaker)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
Reactive Armor
(Plasma Shield)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Smashing Haymaker
(Knockout Blow)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
Reactive Armor
(Tough)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Rectified Reticle
(Rage)
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
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Capt.Fusion: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Fire Shield
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
(3) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(7) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(37) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(37) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
(37) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 1: Jab
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(33) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 2: Blazing Aura
(A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
(5) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
Level 4: Healing Flames
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(31) Healing IO: Level 50
Level 6: Boxing
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(15) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(33) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 8: Combat Jumping
(A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
(34) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
Level 10: Haymaker
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(19) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(19) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(33) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 12: Plasma Shield
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(13) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(13) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 16: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 18: Health
(A) Healing IO: Level 50
Level 20: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
Level 22: Acrobatics
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(34) Knockback Distance IO: Level 50
Level 24: Knockout Blow
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(29) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(31) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 26: Tough
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
(27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(29) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 28: Weave
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(34) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
(36) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
Level 30: Rage
(A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff: Level 20
(31) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 20
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 32: Fiery Embrace
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 35: Burn
(A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
(40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
Level 38: Foot Stomp
(A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
(39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
Level 41: Char
(A) Neuronic Shutdown - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(42) Neuronic Shutdown - Endurance/Hold: Level 30
(42) Neuronic Shutdown - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 30
(42) Neuronic Shutdown - Hold/Range: Level 30
(43) Neuronic Shutdown - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 30
(43) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic): Level 30
Level 44: Melt Armor
(A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff: Level 30
(45) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff: Level 30
(45) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(45) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(46) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(46) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage: Level 30
Level 47: Fire Ball
(A) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
(48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
Level 49: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Gauntlet
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Set Bonus Totals:
9% DamageBuff(Smashing)
9% DamageBuff(Lethal)
9% DamageBuff(Fire)
9% DamageBuff(Cold)
9% DamageBuff(Energy)
9% DamageBuff(Negative)
9% DamageBuff(Toxic)
9% DamageBuff(Psionic)
33.3% Defense(Smashing)
33.3% Defense(Lethal)
4.25% Defense(Fire)
4.25% Defense(Cold)
8% Defense(Energy)
8% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
30.8% Defense(Melee)
5.5% Defense(Ranged)
5.5% Defense(AoE)
2% Enhancement(Held)
15% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
140.6 HP (7.5%) HitPoints
MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
MezResist(Held) 2.5%
MezResist(Immobilize) 20.1%
MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%
MezResist(Stun) 9.1%
MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%
8% (0.13 End/sec) Recovery
2.52% Resistance(Fire)
2.52% Resistance(Cold)
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Set Bonuses:
Steadfast Protection
(Fire Shield)
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
3% Defense(All)
Reactive Armor
(Fire Shield)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat
(Jab)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Obliteration
(Blazing Aura)
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Reactive Armor
(Healing Flames)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat
(Boxing)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat
(Haymaker)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Reactive Armor
(Plasma Shield)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat
(Knockout Blow)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Reactive Armor
(Tough)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Rectified Reticle
(Rage)
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
Obliteration
(Burn)
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Obliteration
(Foot Stomp)
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Neuronic Shutdown
(Char)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
2% Enhancement(Held)
2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)
Shield Breaker
(Melt Armor)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
Status Resistance 2.5%
2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)
11% Enhancement(Accuracy)
3.13% Defense(Melee), 1.56% Defense(Lethal), 1.56% Defense(Smashing)
Ragnarok
(Fire Ball)
4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
((EDIT: Sorry for the first posting, I can't seem to figure out what the correct codes for the new official forums are))
well only one way to prove it krunch
my fire tank vs your fire/kin.
i have my farm mish that i will let you into and we'll see how you like it...no worries though its only lt's and miniions...nothing else.
but ill can tell you you wont survive it
soon as test opens up we can head on over and try it.
then when you return from your hospital trip maybe your fire/kin can show me how much better you are at farming the storm palace
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What do you mean by "90% of the farms in A.E?" In my experience, the most popular farms are comprised of bosses who deal S/L damage exclusively.|
Originally Posted by Coldmed
not true at all..
in the ae fire/kins cant do half of what fire tanks can do.... maybe regular farms they can do as good but not in the a.e....in 90% of the farms in a.e. they would die within seconds. |
And in those missions, a Fire/Kin Controller kicks the crap out of just about any other single build, sad as I am to say it. Soft-capped S/L DEF and a fast-recharging uber heal handles survivability, and Fulcrum + Hotfeet + Cages + Fissure/Frost Breath/Ice Storm handle damage.
Sure, that build is very much purpose-built; any time it strays into predominantly exotic-damage (or mez-heavy) content, it will show its glass jaw, and the slotting used in those builds is generally sub-optimal for any low-target encounter -- but if all you want to do is grind for influence as fast as possible, then the only way to beat such a purpose-built Fire/Kin is to play hardcore market games.
Personally, it's not my style.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
Nice build
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well i guess then ...anyone of you wanna come with me we'll take the test
i have a purpled out fire/kin as well...laying on top of 26 lvl 50's
i farmed with a fire/fire ,a fire/ice, a fire.kin and a ss/wp brute and a fire/fire and a elec/wp brute redside
if anyone here is a bigger farm nurd then me then please speak up...but i wouldnt LIE to you.when i say fire/kins are great..but they dont have the open range a fire tank will have..they just cant handle it
ive farmed wolves,freaks,ninjas,bm map,family and the ae and tv and mole machines since issue 2..
if you dont believe me then go with your slow xp and have a good safe time..
as test opens up...ill be posting here on the tank forums for the put up or shut up to the fanbois...bring whatever you want to test and let the games begin.
i dont care if its ice or invul or wp or kin trollers...youll find im not all talk...imn betting alot of you are though
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Cold, please try you're hardest to get a video of all this, I would love to see the mayhem.
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Originally Posted by Coldmed
well only one way to prove it krunch
my fire tank vs your fire/kin. i have my farm mish that i will let you into and we'll see how you like it...no worries though its only lt's and miniions...nothing else. but ill can tell you you wont survive it soon as test opens up we can head on over and try it. then when you return from your hospital trip maybe your fire/kin can show me how much better you are at farming the storm palace |
"If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything"
"You're like Giraffe's, the way you look down on me, with your vegetarian scorn."
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I don't have a Fire/Kin ... I have a Spines/Fire Scrapper ... and I'll be happy to embarass your Tanker in a farm.
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Originally Posted by Coldmed
well only one way to prove it krunch
my fire tank vs your fire/kin. i have my farm mish that i will let you into and we'll see how you like it...no worries though its only lt's and miniions...nothing else. but ill can tell you you wont survive it soon as test opens up we can head on over and try it. then when you return from your hospital trip maybe your fire/kin can show me how much better you are at farming the storm palace |
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Originally Posted by Coldmed
well only one way to prove it krunch
my fire tank vs your fire/kin. i have my farm mish that i will let you into and we'll see how you like it...no worries though its only lt's and miniions...nothing else. but ill can tell you you wont survive it soon as test opens up we can head on over and try it. then when you return from your hospital trip maybe your fire/kin can show me how much better you are at farming the storm palace |
Hey now, he also said his Spines/Fire would run circles round you. Don't back down from that.
And depending on the build of your AE farm, they might as well be EBs.
And why are we talking about AE farms so much? I mean, tickets are nice, but there's no Purples from tickets.
edit: prolly should have scrolled down to see Kruunch's response.
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
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Originally Posted by Coldmed
well i guess then ...anyone of you wanna come with me we'll take the test
i have a purpled out fire/kin as well...laying on top of 26 lvl 50's i farmed with a fire/fire ,a fire/ice, a fire.kin and a ss/wp brute and a fire/fire and a elec/wp brute redside if anyone here is a bigger farm nurd then me then please speak up...but i wouldnt LIE to you.when i say fire/kins are great..but they dont have the open range a fire tank will have..they just cant handle it ive farmed wolves,freaks,ninjas,bm map,family and the ae and tv and mole machines since issue 2.. if you dont believe me then go with your slow xp and have a good safe time.. as test opens up...ill be posting here on the tank forums for the put up or shut up to the fanbois...bring whatever you want to test and let the games begin. i dont care if its ice or invul or wp or kin trollers...youll find im not all talk...imn betting alot of you are though |
For AE farming I use my spines/vuln and fire/shield. I do not have my shield/fire spec'd out yet.
YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember
Is a tank able to farm like some of the other ATs?
If so, what would be the best combo to have for a farming tank? I am assuming a damaging Aura would be very useful and probably a must have.