Cultural Differences and Forum Moderation
By
Alasdair,
Posted on: 2009-07-31 22:06 in The European Lounge
Quote:
I know the point you're making but:|
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Otherwise I'll just start demanding that Ms Liberty surrender Excalibur as she has no right to it, and that WarWitch's name be changed as it's unfair to Wiccan's to relate their relgion to war!
 |
Surely the fact that WarWitch has 'war' prepended to the name is an indicator that it is something that distinguishes her from other witches - i.e. she's called WarWitch because War is something that isn't usually associated with witches.
Though we do need Excalibur back and some way to turn Hero One back... although I guess as is he breaks the usual US-media stereotypes of Brits.
By my mohawk shall ye know me!
my toons
Funny: Ee-Ai-Ee-Ai-Oh! #3662 * The foul-mouthed Handyman! #1076 * City of Norms #132944
Serious: To Save A Single World (#83744) * Marketing Opportunity (#83747)
Quote:
Here's a suggestion which you could try:|
Originally Posted by GrinningSpade
Depends on how many more complaints they are getting I guess. So far they wanted me to remove the Avatar at least. When I reread her post removing the Avatar is all they demand of me right now.
Not a good start for me on this merged forum, I am reluctant to respond to topics. |
make a new avatar, based on your old one, if necessary, but with an obvious 'playing card' motif. Run it past avatea. Maybe add sth to your sig which makes it clear that 'spade' refers to the suit.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
|
Quote:
I can help you there:|
Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
Possibly, but most Germans can't really tell the difference unless they're French Canadian. They also probably can't tell an Australian from a Brit.
|
If they're having a barbecue and it's sunny, letting them show off their tans, then they're Australian.
If they're having a barbecue and it's raining cats and dogs, they're huddled under umbrellas to do it and your eyes are hurting from the glare from their white flesh (that looks as if it has never seen the daystar) - they're Brits.
If it's nowhere near barbecuing weather play it safe and non-comittal until it is...
By my mohawk shall ye know me!
my toons
Funny: Ee-Ai-Ee-Ai-Oh! #3662 * The foul-mouthed Handyman! #1076 * City of Norms #132944
Serious: To Save A Single World (#83744) * Marketing Opportunity (#83747)
Quote:
Oh, on that note. How do you Brits like 'Hero One' (Hero 1, Hero-1) anyhow? I always thought it was an incredibly lame name. Am I overlooking some cultural reference here?|
Originally Posted by Judgement_Dave
Though we do need Excalibur back and some way to turn Hero One back... although I guess as is he breaks the usual US-media stereotypes of Brits.
|
(Then again, there are to my knowledge no German or French hero NPCs in the game at all, so I guess you take what you can get.)
"If you're going through hell, keep going."
Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill
Quote:
It's an incredibly lame name that does nothing but confuse everyone thanks to the stupid One, 1 and -1 thing.|
Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
Oh, on that note. How do you Brits like 'Hero One' (Hero 1, Hero-1) anyhow? I always thought it was an incredibly lame name. Am I overlooking some cultural reference here?
|
Mind you, it's kinda amusing that our guy gives his life to save others in the ultimate noble sacrifice, and your guy screws up and splatters 1000's of folks in the richest part of your city by dropping a UFO on top of them
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Quote:
Ah, once I was known as ShadowGhost, with proud and respectful use of capitals in the name as literary rules and custom dictates.|
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
I'd rather us go back to 2 seperated communities than one member from EITHER side have to change their names because the other side doesn't like it.
|
Now, I am shadowghost_EU, I've been smacked down for my perch of respect and got branded as being not important enough to have a name, just a word of description will do.
@ShadowGhost & @Ghostie
The Grav Mistress, Mistress of Gravity
If you have nothing useful to say, you have two choices: Say something useless or stay quiet.
Quote:
Hopefully, that is just a side effect of the temporary EU/NA name suffixes, and will be resolved shortly, to everyone's satisfaction.|
Originally Posted by shadowghost_EU
Ah, once I was known as ShadowGhost, with proud and respectful use of capitals in the name as literary rules and custom dictates.
Now, I am shadowghost_EU, I've been smacked down for my perch of respect and got branded as being not important enough to have a name, just a word of description will do. |
Though it would be nice if they actually told us what they plan to do with that.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Quote:
I thought the term for that was Golliwogg |
Originally Posted by Judgement_Dave
But I can see that the name as a whole being frowned upon - partly as, if spade is taken in it's offensive US usage, it could be reminiscent of caricatured blacks/africans being almost pitch black with just white eyes and grinning/smiling white teeth visible. An image from a bygone age which would be offensive to many these days.
I] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwogg
Didn't even realise that spade would even be considered a derogatory term... Learn somthing new everyday huh?
Does this mean Mr Popo's offensive too?
@MrMac & @MrMac2
http://faces.cohtitan.com/profile/MrMac/
Quote:
Some films are good for false portrayals, Notting Hill, where are the black people? I don't think that was an american film but I think it can be used to show it happens everywhere.|
Originally Posted by Lodestar_1977
That wasnt funny and was a bad and innacurate portrayal of Black people and so is the typical image of "brits" shown in so many American movies and TV shows.
|
What about the U-boat film, U-571 where apparently it was the americans who seized the enigma machine, or the great escape with wait for it an american leading it. I think we are alright with many things but rewriting history like that is the ultimate kick in the nuts. I don't know why they even let U-571 enter our cinemas, no one I knew would watch it.
I think watching films we can tell what Brits may or may not do and our noses aren't anymore dirty than anyone elses' in small groups but collectively we tend to be of a certain way.
That British Parachutist in the latest Star Trek film was a bit over the top. We have jokes about our Paras when it comes to contemplating death but even they know when to pull the chute.
Quote:
Malaise is French, although he has kind of disapeared from the game|
Originally Posted by Eisregen_NA
Oh, on that note. How do you Brits like 'Hero One' (Hero 1, Hero-1) anyhow? I always thought it was an incredibly lame name. Am I overlooking some cultural reference here?
(Then again, there are to my knowledge no German or French hero NPCs in the game at all, so I guess you take what you can get.) |
Link
Although I think he is meant to be coming back in Going Rogue
Member of GGRRR, a SG on Defiant - check out our website - GGRRR
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Quote:
|
Quote:
I think he's been feeling kinda unwell and out of sorts... |
Originally Posted by Tired_Angel
Malaise is French, although he has kind of disapeared from the game
Link Although I think he is meant to be coming back in Going Rogue |
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Quote:
I find this rediculous. You have that forum handle for years without incident and now because of some overly PC American sensitivities you'll be forced to change it? I'd personally be tempted to tell them to go suck an egg, but that'll probably bring more trouble than it's worth.|
Originally Posted by GrinningSpade
Just received a notification from Avatea that my name and Avatar is causing some troubles. Apparently a spade is something offensive as well as a card 'color' and a tool to dig holes. My Avatar reminds people of an old theatre style. Now if they would take offense of me being a notorious villain I would not have minded.
As it is, my forumname and avatar will have to be changed due to 'cultural differences'  |
Still it's rediculous.
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
Quote:
Hehe |
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
I think he's been feeling kinda unwell and out of sorts...
|
BTW - this talk about Hero 1 and cultural differences reminds me about the problem with the Union Jack in the TF from I15? Did they ever fix that?
Member of GGRRR, a SG on Defiant - check out our website - GGRRR
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Quote:
|
I can see i'm going to have to mwntally add 'IMO' to all of FFMs posts for him and my own sanity (pls note smiley)
IMO Hero 1s an awesome name.
My opinion of U-571 is that brits who rail against its US slant miss out on appreciating what it actually is: an awesome submarine movie, not a historically accurate film.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
|
I can't believe this is serious I thought he was being sarcastic, like me saying "I've been sent a warning message in private telling me to change my name because it may be offensive to kittens" I mean what the hell, cards?
Quote:
ALL posts just be taken as being "IMO", from ALL posters, everywhere. |
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
I can see i'm going to have to mwntally add 'IMO' to all of FFMs posts for him and my own sanity (pls note smiley)
|
Some of us are just a wee bit louder at expressing our opinions. Especially me, I have a big gob. Quote:
|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
IMO Hero 1s an awesome name.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
My opinion of U-571 is that brits who rail against its US slant miss out on appreciating what it actually is: an awesome submarine movie, not a historically accurate film.
Eco |
I wonder when they'll turn the Falklands War into a movie. And which US movie star will be the Hero of Port Stanley.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Imagine an american had 'spunky rubber jonnie' as tgeir forum name. You personally might not find it offensive, and the yank in question might protest that it was based on a confident hero called John with stretch powers, but someone from the UK might be offended, so it could be pulled.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
|
Quote:
But none of those terms are particularly offensive here. "Rubber Johnny" is a rather old fashioned, somewhat quaint, and a little bit of a funny name for a condom, not offensive at all. And "spunky", well, that's far more an American word than an English one...|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
Imagine an american had 'spunky rubber jonnie' as tgeir forum name. You personally might not find it offensive, and the yank in question might protest that it was based on a confident hero called John with stretch powers, but someone from the UK might be offended, so it could be pulled.
Eco |
Such a name is FAR more likely to illicit no more than a chuckle from any of the English folks *I* know...
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Quote:
More to the point, it's a false and cynical retelling of an event that actually happened and still within living memory.|
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Or just another typical "We're the greatest!" Hollywood movie, who couldn't get history right if their lives depended on it.
I wonder when they'll turn the Falklands War into a movie. And which US movie star will be the Hero of Port Stanley. |
Would the yanks be this dismissive if we produced a film showing the Doolittle raid as Bomber Harris leading a squadron of Mosquitoes attacking mainland Japan?
FFM (not quotibg full cos im on mi iphone and the new forums are slooow)
"You might find it less amusing if you had a "States-man", a "Stateman" and a "Statesman" to keep track of!"
you seem to be still under tge impression that i'm american. I'm not, and we're olaying the same game, arent we? Whats with all the 'you'?
In regard to IMO, i find it useful to append this to opinions to help differentiate them from statements of fact. Iys my own personal feeling that doing this helps the poster come over as more polite. Perhaps its just my natural British reserve acting here.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
|
Quote:
I do think you have missed the point ever so slightly here. |
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
My opinion of U-571 is that brits who rail against its US slant miss out on appreciating what it actually is: an awesome submarine movie, not a historically accurate film.
|
Imagine, if you will, a British-made film depicting the battle of Midway that ends up going very badly for the US. Then, when the Japanese are on the very cusp of victory a group of King George V battleships and Illustrious carriers steam into view and single-handedly wipe out the Imperial fleet and save the day.
We all know how our transatlantic cousins would react to such butchery of their proud moments in history. Yet they feel other nations are overreacting when they express those exact same sentiments.
Ultimately, I think people are more annoyed by the hypocrisy than anything else.
Oh, and U-571 was an appallingly bad film
.
"Such a name is FAR more likely to illicit no more than a chuckle from any of the English folks *I* know..."
my mother would be offended if sb said 'spunk' to her.
But arguing about it with you is irrelevant, i see. 'spade' is an offensive term to the majority of the forum-goers. Thats enough.
Eco
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
|
Quote:
Apologies, I blame that _NA at the end of your name. |
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
FFM (not quotibg full cos im on mi iphone and the new forums are slooow)
"You might find it less amusing if you had a "States-man", a "Stateman" and a "Statesman" to keep track of!" you seem to be still under tge impression that i'm american. I'm not, and we're olaying the same game, arent we? Whats with all the 'you'? |
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
In regard to IMO, i find it useful to append this to opinions to help differentiate them from statements of fact. Iys my own personal feeling that doing this helps the poster come over as more polite. Perhaps its just my natural British reserve acting here.
Eco |
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
"Would the yanks be this dismissive if we produced a film showing the Doolittle raid as Bomber Harris leading a squadron of Mosquitoes attacking mainland Japan?"
i tgibk they've already made a bang-up job of making an utterly inaccurate portrayal of tgat with Pearl Harbour!
Which is also an awesome movie IMO. Awesomely bad, of course, but a fine example of so-bad-its-good.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
|
Winston Churchill