Cultural Differences and Forum Moderation
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Alasdair,
Posted on: 2009-07-31 22:06 in The European Lounge
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It's not even a bad word in the UK. A cracker is merely a dry biscuit you have with cheese... |
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
I think that 'cracker' is banned by the AE filter too.
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@FloatingFatMan
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
We get NONE of that, didn't even know you HAD Dev attended events on Thursday.
As for GM response time, it's anywhere from a few hours, to your petition being automatically closed without even an automated email... In 4+ years of playing, I've NEVER had a GM get back to me in anything less than 3 days... |
Ok, we -have- to open the server lists to both communities now.
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See, now I'm afraid to cross the pond as it were... since I'm a cracker and all that.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
It's not even a bad word in the UK. A cracker is merely a dry biscuit you have with cheese...
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That is just you - the last 3 times I've had to petition, I've had a response back in less than 10 minutes - at varying times of the day. Last one freaked the crap out of me, when a Carnie suddenly showed up in my Council mission.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
We get NONE of that, didn't even know you HAD Dev attended events on Thursday.
As for GM response time, it's anywhere from a few hours, to your petition being automatically closed without even an automated email... In 4+ years of playing, I've NEVER had a GM get back to me in anything less than 3 days... |
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Oddly, right this very instant, I'm actually munching on some crackers with cheese...|
Originally Posted by Lady_Athyna
See, now I'm afraid to cross the pond as it were... since I'm a cracker and all that.
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Nomnomnom?
@FloatingFatMan
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*shrug* Maybe it's improved lately. I don't petition any more, haven't done for MONTHS, as I never EVER got a reply. Got sick of bothering, so these days when I hit a bug in a mission, I just drop it instead. Or go play something else.
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Originally Posted by Myopic_Aardvark
That is just you - the last 3 times I've had to petition, I've had a response back in less than 10 minutes - at varying times of the day. Last one freaked the crap out of me, when a Carnie suddenly showed up in my Council mission.
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@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
"We get NONE of that, didn't even know you HAD Dev attended events on Thursday.
As for GM response time, it's anywhere from a few hours, to your petition being automatically closed without even an automated email... In 4+ years of playing, I've NEVER had a GM get back to me in anything less than 3 days..."
/mild smiling facepalm
i was referring to the fact that the Rare events attended by devs happen when they are awake, At ludicrous times for us, and hence are usually imppssible for us europeans to attend anyway. Ive been to one such event, where i saw Lord Recluse for about 5 minutes. It was very late and really not worth it.
your GM response time is terrible, but maybe its tge nature of our pwtitions that causes the disparity. I really only petition when i cant find a glowy in a mission or am otherwise prevented from completing and im in a hurry to leave for work, or when im reporting a trademark infringement.
Eco
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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"We get NONE of that, didn't even know you HAD Dev attended events on Thursday.
As for GM response time, it's anywhere from a few hours, to your petition being automatically closed without even an automated email... In 4+ years of playing, I've NEVER had a GM get back to me in anything less than 3 days..."
/mild smiling facepalm
i was referring to the fact that the Rare events attended by devs happen when they are awake, At ludicrous times for us, and hence are usually imppssible for us europeans to attend anyway. Ive been to one such event, where i saw Lord Recluse for about 5 minutes. It was very late and really not worth it.
your GM response time is terrible, but maybe its tge nature of our pwtitions that causes the disparity. I really only petition when i cant find a glowy in a mission or am otherwise prevented from completing and im in a hurry to leave for work, or when im reporting a trademark infringement.
Eco
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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A double post!
So much for THAT getting fixed!
@FloatingFatMan
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Indeed! - I thought the wonderful thing about Tiggers were that they were the only one?
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Aye. We tend to use "period" for... something totally unrelated to punctuation...
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I dunno, it stops a few other activities
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
In 4+ years of playing, I've NEVER had a GM get back to me in anything less than 3 days...
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
*shrug* Maybe it's improved lately. I don't petition any more, haven't done for MONTHS, as I never EVER got a reply.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
A double post!
So much for THAT getting fixed! |
Eco.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Hmmm.... I am *cough* over 40 years of age, have lived in over a dozen different cities in 4 different states on the US West Coast, and attended a half dozen different schools. I'm familiar with several racial slurs aimed at various nationalities, but I have NEVER heard "spade" used as a racial epithet.|
Originally Posted by Judgement_Dave
Abusive term for a black person - probably derived from the colour of the suit in playing cards.
Pretty much unused in British English but quite common in US English iirc. Also, afaik, they refer to digging spades as shovels. So a US spade is either the card suit or a racial epithet. |
In fact, I used the word just yesterday... I needed the small gardening tool to plant some basil.
Oh yes, and hubby loves to watch the Poker games, where they talk about spades all the time!
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More common in the southern portions of the US.
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Originally Posted by Impish_Kat
Hmmm.... I am *cough* over 40 years of age, have lived in over a dozen different cities in 4 different states on the US West Coast, and attended a half dozen different schools. I'm familiar with several racial slurs aimed at various nationalities, but I have NEVER heard "spade" used as a racial epithet.
In fact, I used the word just yesterday... I needed the small gardening tool to plant some basil. Oh yes, and hubby loves to watch the Poker games, where they talk about spades all the time! |
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I haven't heard it used, ever, in over 30 years of living in Florida and Georgia. |
Originally Posted by Oyasumi_Nasai
More common in the southern portions of the US.
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I think it was a common term in black & white movies before the technology of color film was invented.
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Good for you! Sheltered life, and all that? I am 39, have lived in the UK, Malta and Poland, and I have seen and heard the word 'Spade' used on tv and in movies oftehn enough to be in no doubt that it IS offensive to a lot of people, and have just found it referenced in the following websites:|
Originally Posted by Impish_Kat
Hmmm.... I am *cough* over 40 years of age, have lived in over a dozen different cities in 4 different states on the US West Coast, and attended a half dozen different schools. I'm familiar with several racial slurs aimed at various nationalities, but I have NEVER heard "spade" used as a racial epithet.
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spade
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spade
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spade
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
Like the invisible man, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there
EDIT: I haven't heard the term 'wog' used, personally, since the early 80s, but that doesn't mean I think it can be intriduced to the vernacular now either.
Eco
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Actually, I DO mangle grammer from time to time, however that last bit WAS somewhat of a BIT of hyperbole. I did get replies... Automated ones closing the log as, and I quote "You weren't online when we tried to contact you".|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan_NA
Hmm...
So which is it? That's the present perfect up there you used. I get the impression that you're not one to mangle your grammar. I'm not accusing you of selective memory in order to support your griping, but...ok, I am. |
Of course I wasn't online, they tried to contact me at 3 in the bloody morning...
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
I don't know.. it seems to me that this 'understanding cultural differences' is turning into a 'majority rules' kind of mentality, where of course the US are the majority and everyone else is a minority.
To be honest i'm thinking of never posting on these boards again, it's not like I'll be missed or anything what with all these Americans stating 'welcome to OUR boards' everywhere i look.. To be honest I don't feel welcome at all as they obviously just see this forum as THEIR place (Ok, generalising, but i've seen it a lot). I miss the EU boards. This place is alien and just feels unwelcoming and plain wrong.
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I'm probably only getting on cause I secretly want to be an American.
Can i join yer club pl0x? :> I much prefer your way of saying 'awesome' (and I think that's reason enough, don't you?)
@Rooks
"You should come inside the box... Then you'll know what I mean."
Ok, now that those from across the pond have joined us in this swirling mass of humanity known as the CoH forums, I say welcome.
As for the "wording" differences between us, we will get the kinks worked out I'm sure. As for cultural differences, well US players have a higher tendency to be armed, than our EU cousins. And yall are going to have to explain this tea thing vs coffee.
I mean I like tea, iced, with lemon, but for caffeine, I'll take coffee
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Originally Posted by Kallandra
I don't know.. it seems to me that this 'understanding cultural differences' is turning into a 'majority rules' kind of mentality, where of course the US are the majority and everyone else is a minority.
To be honest i'm thinking of never posting on these boards again, it's not like i'll be missed or anything what with all these Americans stating 'welcome to OUR boards everywhere i look'.. To be honest I don't feel welcome at all as they obviously just see this forum as THEIR place (Ok, generalising, but i've seen it alot). I miss the EU boards. This place is alien and just feels unwelcoming and plain wrong. Run by Americans, for Americans |
Re: your point, I too don't like the feel of these new forums particularly, which is why I think I've set up shop in this one, bizarrely.
I'm going to try to get used to the new boards, however. I am glasd that there's been a new influx of posters to the boards that I've been frequenting for almost 5 years. You should try to think the same way, even if the influx you're getting is quite large and seems to mistakenly think that they own the place.
Eco.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Originally Posted by Hookecho
Ok, now that we have joined those from across the pond in this swirling mass of humanity known as the CoH forums, I say thanks for the welcome.
As for the "wording" differences between us, we will get the kinks worked out I'm sure. As for cultural differences, well US players have a higher tendency to be armed, than our EU cousins. And yall are going to have to explain this tea thing vs coffee. I mean I like tea, iced, with lemon, but for caffeine, I'll take coffee |
Fixed it for Kallandra
Eco.
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The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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hee hee hee... |
And yall are going to have to explain this tea thing vs coffee. I mean I like tea, iced, with lemon, but for caffeine, I'll take coffee |
When our friends from London come to visit, we always have a coffee exchange. They actually don't drink much tea.
Dunno, maybe they're the exception? lol
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Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson |
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There's a thread around here somewhere where I posted links to existing threads for specific suggestions because, like you say, it's our forum now, your's, mine, his, her's, our's... So jump around and make fun of us. It's not like we'd notice too much, we make fun of ourselves frequently... it's why there's a comic section that allows almost anything.
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Originally Posted by Kallandra
I don't know.. it seems to me that this 'understanding cultural differences' is turning into a 'majority rules' kind of mentality, where of course the US are the majority and everyone else is a minority.
To be honest i'm thinking of never posting on these boards again, it's not like I'll be missed or anything what with all these Americans stating 'welcome to OUR boards' everywhere i look.. To be honest I don't feel welcome at all as they obviously just see this forum as THEIR place (Ok, generalising, but i've seen it a lot). I miss the EU boards. This place is alien and just feels unwelcoming and plain wrong. Run by Americans, for Americans |
I think that 'cracker' is banned by the AE filter too.
They have to take a majority view of it or even a loud minority view. I personally am fine with hearing the C-word, and i and my friends use it a lot in conversation. I'm not clamoring for its inclusion ingame or in the forums just because only a portion of the forumgoers find it offensive or even because I think NCSoft mistakenly thinks a portion of the forumgoers find it offensive.
I understand that I am in the minority, and I dont tilt at windmills about it.
Eco
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