Been there done that... so whats next?
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3dent,
Posted on: 2009-04-08 19:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Need I say more?
Suuure the new kittie, bunnie, clown villains etc cheer up the game play a bit but if your not that intrested of reading the story arcs it's still basically the same mind numbing grind in the same old maps.
Im like a drug addict who isnt really addicted anymore but still keep poking with the empty needle because he cant figure out what else to do with the bloody thing.
Need a fix.
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*Pokes Smooth Operator with badge shaped needles*
@Golden Girl
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Sadly, already today, same story. MA is fun and stuff at start, but already is a 'yaa.. ok.. next?' issue.
No fixes, no loving to underpowered classes, more gimped time into stupid pvp, thats it?
The worst part, each party i've been in, everyone was offering to play their MA mission cause it 'was soooo freaking cool', and yet fighting another trap of mindless mobs with just another look.
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Honestly? If that's the way you see the game now, nothing I can say will change your mind. Looks like you have got sick of playing it, not just tired.
"New stuff, bored now!"
If old stuff bores you too, time to move on, I'd suspect.
(I'm not saying go away, just saying it sounds like there's no way back from where you are.)
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EU, Union mostly.
Hardly see new content made for this game anymore. I'd like to play old stuff even, but that will have to wait for this new badge grind to wear off.
Because that is what the Mission Architect is, a giant grind made by players for players, fueled by badges dropped from above. Maybe better than making players run the same old content endlessly. Like Ouroboros, the previous grind, with a minimum of new content.
Now we get the ability to make our own content, that ultimately means very little for the game, when the badge grind has been completed, and the novelty value wears off, what will not make this thing into a new Ouroboros? Something barely used, a wasteland of missed opportunities.
When will there be content introduced into the game by developers, building upon the gameworld? When will there be new content made for the game "City of Villains", that I bought in 2005? Last significant upgrade for that game was made with Issue 7. Although VEATS came in Issue 12, there was mostly old content to run through. Or at best, shared content that means very little for the role of a SuperVillain. I guess the thing of roles, and purpose must mean very little these days...
Yep. It's been generic shared stuff for years now. Maybe as much as three years. If there is no more real content, there is no reason to play. It is a very simple concept.
Player made missions is not new content building upon the game world. It's a game within a game, and does not take us anywhere. This game is running in circles now. There is no direction.
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Would a return of the 5th Column be bad for you, as that'd just be old content? 
@Golden Girl
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How about, take a break. Go into the wide open world, maybe play a little TF2, maybe have a run through an old favourite that's not an MMO. Then come back and beat the snot out of someone in the arena.
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How about, take a break. Go into the wide open world, maybe play a little TF2, maybe have a run through an old favourite that's not an MMO. Then come back and beat the snot out of someone in the arena.
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A break will not chance the priority of the developers. What are their future goals, what was their goal with MA? (apart from making own farm maps). To give a group of players the chance to make their own, while it will fade away in the 'avalange' of MA missions available?
If i look at their other game, guildwars, each month (basicly) there are new skill balancing patches, new builds to test and rebalance of pvp. The ammount of skills alone can keep you busy for weeks if not months to find new effective builds.
I play mostly US side, since there is little worry about getting a team, in huge variety. Its only there where you actualy meet heroes on the street, unlike EU where 99% is lingering in their own 'little instance'.
By a hand full of 'exploiters', they 'fix' problems that will hurt more people then helping them. Where is the changes in QoL issues, scenery enhancement, 'room of doom' fixes, or even just a simple more variation in maps. All i see (apart from MA) are quick 'n dirty fixes, not taking the core, but filling a hole by diggin a new one.
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I know the feeling. I havent logged into the game for weeks now as I really cant be arsed due to boredom, and MA has done nothing to alleviate that.
At the same time I keep my subs going just in case something good happens to the game between now and Champions or Earthrise, but I dont hold out too much hope as there is probably going to ba ages until I15 and even then, I am not sure I believe the "great things on their way" speeches anymore.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to the webpage thingie (cant remember the name) where they would show all your characters etc? Lots of other games have them, why not this one? Something like this that showed your characters badges would be cool and a lot more interesting than the MA rubbish.
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I know the feeling. I havent logged into the game for weeks now as I really cant be arsed due to boredom, and MA has done nothing to alleviate that.
At the same time I keep my subs going just in case something good happens to the game between now and Champions or Earthrise, but I dont hold out too much hope as there is probably going to ba ages until I15 and even then, I am not sure I believe the "great things on their way" speeches.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to the webpage thingie (cant remember the name) where they would show all your characters etc? Lots of other games have them, why not this one?
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The City Vault was taken out into the desert by Posi, Castle, BABs and a small excitable Italian-American sterotype and buried in a shallow grave without a marker.
We don't talk about it any more.
Well *we* do, things like "Hey, where'd it go? Isn't it way overdue now?". We just don't get any sort of response other than "Erm, soon? Hey look over there. A red car".
Its a shame as City Vault would have made me more interested for a while. I dont see why they cant do it, as EQ2, Vanguard etc etc all have them.
It would be great not to have to have add on programmes like Titan to track your badges etc, and just to see your characters on their own pages or something, though this should have been something they had from the start.
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The worst part, each party i've been in, everyone was offering to play their MA mission cause it 'was soooo freaking cool', and yet fighting another trap of mindless mobs with just another look.
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But mindless traps of mobs is what CoH is about! THey don't want exciting dynamic missions with things that might be slightly different! That would be strange to the people who play and make them disturbed!
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The City Vault was taken out into the desert by Posi, Castle, BABs and a small excitable Italian-American sterotype and buried in a shallow grave without a marker.
We don't talk about it any more.
Well *we* do, things like "Hey, where'd it go? Isn't it way overdue now?". We just don't get any sort of response other than "Erm, soon? Hey look over there. A red car".
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Personally, I suspect some kind of legal shenanigans when Cryptic sold the IP to NCSoft. IIRC, the City Vault was started before this sale, and news of it pretty much vanished after the sale... I don't think we'll EVER see it.
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The City Vault was taken out into the desert by Posi, Castle, BABs and a small excitable Italian-American sterotype and buried in a shallow grave without a marker.
We don't talk about it any more.
Well *we* do, things like "Hey, where'd it go? Isn't it way overdue now?". We just don't get any sort of response other than "Erm, soon? Hey look over there. A red car".
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Personally, I suspect some kind of legal shenanigans when Cryptic sold the IP to NCSoft. IIRC, the City Vault was started before this sale, and news of it pretty much vanished after the sale... I don't think we'll EVER see it.
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I wonder if champions will have our city vault?
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Suuure the new kittie, bunnie, clown villains
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Not to mention pirates and ninjas. But I expect that silliness to die down rather quickly 
You can do serious and original things with MA, both on foozle-slaying and storytelling level, people just need the time to learn. (and no, beta wasn't enough, - manyy people couldn't or wouldn't participate.) Look at, say, the base creator, - people learned to use it in very imaginative ways nowadays, but I bet early bases weren nowhere near those superdesiugns we have now.
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The City Vault was taken out into the desert by Posi, Castle, BABs and a small excitable Italian-American sterotype and buried in a shallow grave without a marker.
We don't talk about it any more.
Well *we* do, things like "Hey, where'd it go? Isn't it way overdue now?". We just don't get any sort of response other than "Erm, soon? Hey look over there. A red car".
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Personally, I suspect some kind of legal shenanigans when Cryptic sold the IP to NCSoft. IIRC, the City Vault was started before this sale, and news of it pretty much vanished after the sale... I don't think we'll EVER see it.
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I wonder if champions will have our city vault?
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That's what I was just thinking, FFM could be totally right on this. Maybe someone in Cryptic had dreamed it up and part of the deal was Cryptic kept control of the prototype for future development.
It'd also explain the deafening silence over it. No-one would want to say "Sorry, that's now a feature for our upcoming rivals instead and we aren't starting the development from scratch again".
Even if it was the case, surely they could do their own version of something like it anyway.
I like the way the ones I use in other games take automatic pictures when you hit certain levels etc. Would be cool as have only once got a picture of one of my alts when it hit 50.
Zhaan, Chakyra, Fiorina 161, Aeryn, Polly Nation, Dee Pression, Shazanne, Night Jester and too many more to mention.
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Even if it was the case, surely they could do their own version of something like it anyway.
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See the bit about having to start from scratch again. They probably *could* but then it'd be up to the new NCSoft overlords if they should, if it would be cost effective.
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Suuure the new kittie, bunnie, clown villains
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Not to mention pirates and ninjas. But I expect that silliness to die down rather quickly You can do serious and original things with MA, both on foozle-slaying and storytelling level, people just need the time to learn. (and no, beta wasn't enough, - manyy people couldn't or wouldn't participate.) Look at, say, the base creator, - people learned to use it in very imaginative ways nowadays, but I bet early bases weren nowhere near those superdesiugns we have now.
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The problem is though, 3, you have to be into doing stuff like that. I can be pretty creative when I want, but I really cant be bothered to do all the bits required as I like to log on and play, not do the equivalent of a 3 year college course
Zhaan, Chakyra, Fiorina 161, Aeryn, Polly Nation, Dee Pression, Shazanne, Night Jester and too many more to mention.
Network Hell 47640
Valley of the Harpies 74519
Green and Pleasant Land 75966
Do what I did and take a couple of years off. Whether it makes it anymore exciting to come back remains to be seen!
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A break will not chance the priority of the developers. What are their future goals, what was their goal with MA? (apart from making own farm maps). To give a group of players the chance to make their own, while it will fade away in the 'avalange' of MA missions available?
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Very true but it can change your own attitude towards it.
Ok n00b question of the day. City Vault wassat?
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A break will not chance the priority of the developers. What are their future goals, what was their goal with MA? (apart from making own farm maps). To give a group of players the chance to make their own, while it will fade away in the 'avalange' of MA missions available?
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Very true but it can change your own attitude towards it.
Ok n00b question of the day. City Vault wassat?
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A website (probably with the Web2.0 monikor stuck on it since that's so in right now) which was fed your character details from the game. Sorta like the Badge Tracker sites, Wiki's for characters and things like that on one official website fed from the game database.
They even got as far as sticking the Options for it into the game somewhere (there's toggles to Show/Hide your details online) before it disappeared without a trace or explanation.
Ah now I had seen the options in game and assumed it was an idea that got abandoned at some point. The rest would be nice. Personally I would like an XML feed of my character, the same as they do on Eve. I can build the rest round it
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Very true but it can change your own attitude towards it.
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Most cases, away from it. From the majority of MMO's i recently visited again that were 'behind' on CoH, went ahead and went beyond.
Gameplay wise they changed alot, but what did change gameplaywise here? PvP perhaps, but the initial mission in/out, travel, in/out has never ever been changed. No alternatives ever been created, while others continue to offer way more 'ways' to spend your time.
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Need I say more?
Suuure the new kittie, bunnie, clown villains etc cheer up the game play a bit but if your not that intrested of reading the story arcs it's still basically the same mind numbing grind in the same old maps.
Im like a drug addict who isnt really addicted anymore but still keep poking with the empty needle because he cant figure out what else to do with the bloody thing.
Need a fix.
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