Single Target Buffs

annoying, arent they? they last 1-2 minutes, depending on which buff you use...

in my opinion they should either be changed so they last longer but cost more end, or if possible to have a slider to allow its customisation, 1 end of the bar makes duration lower, end cost lower and its effect greater, while the other end makes the duration longer, end cost higher and its effect slightly lower

my reasoning behind this is powers like Clear Mind, Speed Boost are generally wanted but always go forgotten because they only last a minute or so, its annoying for a buffer to keep a whole team topepd up every battle on a map...

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Stop being lazy.

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The slider thing would be a major change to the user interface. So, no.

Rent does have something of a point, really. The skill of a Buffer lies in making sure they are applying required buffs to everyone at the right times. Assuming it is viable to do that, then extending the duration is just there to make unskilled Buffers' lives easier.

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This would be a big QoL improvement and would therefore be worth the effort.

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The slider thing would be a major change to the user interface. So, no.

Rent does have something of a point, really. The skill of a Buffer lies in making sure they are applying required buffs to everyone at the right times. Assuming it is viable to do that, then extending the duration is just there to make unskilled Buffers' lives easier.

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^ This
My main, if not only, buffer is an empath. Pure empath. That involves having the team bar open all the time and the icons out, slamming back and forth with heals and buffs like blue thunder. Thats the whole POINT.

QoL? Trash. Fixing all the horrible bugs and glitches out ther would be QoL improvment.
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I'd rather have an unskilled buffer able to properly keep the team buffed than die because they cant keep the buffs applied.

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I'd rather have an unskilled buffer

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Stop being lazy.

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This

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I'd rather have an unskilled buffer able to properly keep the team buffed than die because they cant keep the buffs applied.

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I hereby announce the cure for unskilled buffers in teams!

-Kick frim Team-

lvl 22 team lfbuffer

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its not that hard to keep an entire team stacked with cm for a mission or TF...really.. So really dont see the need for this. And Likewise for other single target buffs.

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SB please.

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i wish the would reduce the cast time on thaw and clarity

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Well when I play a buffer i rarely forget to apply the critical ones like SB and CM to nomelees. So even it would be much easier to make duration controllable it's the buffer skill (no laziness the most) that makes the game. Not so rarely I have a kinetic on board that says "ask for sb if u wanna get it". My response to him is if u don't want to be a buff [censored] don't play a buffer, and if I am team leader he get instant kick.

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Well when I play a buffer i rarely forget to apply the critical ones like SB and CM to nomelees. So even it would be much easier to make duration controllable it's the buffer skill (no laziness the most) that makes the game. Not so rarely I have a kinetic on board that says "ask for sb if u wanna get it". My response to him is if u don't want to be a buff [censored] don't play a buffer, and if I am team leader he get instant kick.

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A little harsh, I can understand why those with sb ask this as a good number of players do complain if they get boosted without being told/asking first.
You just have to look at the various old threads about it.

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Well when I play a buffer i rarely forget to apply the critical ones like SB and CM to nomelees. So even it would be much easier to make duration controllable it's the buffer skill (no laziness the most) that makes the game. Not so rarely I have a kinetic on board that says "ask for sb if u wanna get it". My response to him is if u don't want to be a buff [censored] don't play a buffer, and if I am team leader he get instant kick.

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As the poster above me stated, some people -hate- getting Speed Boost as due to PC performance issues or map it makes controlling their character difficult. An attitude like yours isn't conductive to encouraging these people to play.

It's simply saying 'If you want me to Speed Boost you, let me know' so as to not chuck it on people who would suffer for it.

You on Union or Defiant by the way? Just so I can avoid with teaming with someone who'll kick for such a stupid reason.

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As the poster above me stated, some people -hate- getting Speed Boost as due to PC performance issues or map it makes controlling their character difficult. An attitude like yours isn't conductive to encouraging these people to play.

It's simply saying 'If you want me to Speed Boost you, let me know' so as to not chuck it on people who would suffer for it.

You on Union or Defiant by the way? Just so I can avoid with teaming with someone who'll kick for such a stupid reason.

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No no no LOL. U got me all wrong. I am not talking about the buffer asking ONCE at the beginning who wants sb or not, but about asking that ppl shout All the time when sb off, coz he is too lazy to watch in buff bar. That is what I am talking about. So i would need to constatly ask for sb.
And if that is not good enough reason for a kick then i wouldn't want to team with you either.

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you still didn't mention which server you're on....

TBH, Speed Boost isn't the only buff that a Kineticist can bring to the team, it's a nice one agreed, but I'd rather Transference and Fulcrum Shift to Speed Boost, I'm more likely to grumble if neither of these is cycled than if I don't get Speed Boost. I have 2 kins at 50, one of them I will happily cycle Speed Boost, the other is a Fire Kin, and I'm more interested in killing mobs than I am ensuring that all the team is speed boosted 100% of the time, I'll Speed Boost between mobs if I have the endurance, if I don't, then it'll have to wait.

not everyone will play a powerset as you want them too... my thought on that... TOUGH!

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Very true it's not hard to keep 7 other people CMed for a whole TF.

Provided you dont try to keep 2-4 Fortituded (depending on regen speed), 1 or 2 ADRENALIN BOOSTed (depending on regen speed), use RECOVERY AURA and REGENERATION AURA whenever they are available AND keep everyone alive. Then its very hard given the activation times of all the powers and the CM lasts only 90 seconds.

Having Dinged 50 yesterday with Charge Nurse (Empath Defender) I know it's almost impossible especially as you can be sure just as you are trying to CM someone someone else WILL need healing.

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I'm a controller, you want perma SB get a defender whose job it is to buff, I control stuff and kill stuff. And if you want FS stand close, you may also get healed and plenty of end but thats as it may be not what you should expect

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I'm a controller, you want perma SB get a defender whose job it is to buff, I control stuff and kill stuff. And if you want FS stand close, you may also get healed and plenty of end but thats as it may be not what you should expect

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I'm a controller, you want perma SB get a defender whose job it is to buff, I control stuff and kill stuff. And if you want FS stand close, you may also get healed and plenty of end but thats as it may be not what you should expect

[/ QUOTE ]And I say just because it says 'secondary' for the powerset doesn't mean you should neglect it. :b

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May I first of all say, that a Hero with Kinetics neglecting his/her Kin powers is a pretty poor Kin whether it's a Kin Primary(defender) or Secondary(Controller)..

Yet, When I'm playing my controller (fire/kin), my key role is to control with my primary powerset, whereas when I'm playing my defender (kin/dark), my primary role isn't to control the mobs, my primary focus isn't to kill the mobs, but that of buffing myself and my team mates.

When I'm playing my Controller, not Speed Boosting my team mates 100% of the time doesn't mean I'm neglecting the Kin side of things, because I guarantee I'll be firing off Fulcrum Shift, Siphon Power, Transference and transfusion (and the odd siphon speed if I remember).

Speed Boost is a great power, for both the recharge bonus, and the enduance regen, don't get me wrong, but it is by no means the only power in the set. when I have time and between enemy groups, and enough of my own endurance, then I'm more than happy to share it out.

I may be pidgeon holing them, but Defenders are designed to be buff first, attack second, controllers are designed to control first, support second, and I believe it that is what Lostninja was referring to(as was I a few posts up.)

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Sure that SB is not the only power in kinetic set. And don't get me wrong I am not [censored] of having it 100% of the time, but I'll start if there is like less then 50%.

To Evil:
I don't expect everyone to play as i want, just expect to be buffed regularly. I understand the controler's and corrutor's role in the team as secondary buffers and asking for SB 50% of the time is not exclusively MY play style. And yea I also get angry if transference and fulcrum shift is not cycled.

To LostNinja:
U can control and kill stuff as well as give sb occasionally. U get transference at lvl 35 and fulcrum at lvl 38. So you are saying that SB becomes obsolete after that? Or that is just your play style i guess.

As I said If u don't want to be a buff [censored] don't play a buffer set, or ratter a set that has buffs in it if u consider kinetic to be more debuff then buff.

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I have tried a thermal corrupter, and the buffing drove me nuts. The healing I was ok with, but trying to keep the two shields on a big team. Well I deleted the charter.
Having a much longer time on single target buffs would have helped a lot.

With my Brutes (and my new Tank) I never experts buffs. I can understand everyone buffing up like crazy before an AV fight or something like that, but for most of the time I think it is better to go with out buffs. However as long as groups tend to only want to fight 3+ enemies that is not going to happen.

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I'd rather have a power that stops the team running about like hyperactive toddlers when i'm trying to buff them.

Btw I have "select player 1-8" bound to my numpad so ST buffs are only 2 key presses away. Problem sorted.

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I'd rather have a power that stops the team running about like hyperactive toddlers when i'm trying to buff them.

Btw I have "select player 1-8" bound to my numpad so ST buffs are only 2 key presses away. Problem sorted.

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Now THAT is /signed

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