NCSoft Q3 Report


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Taken from a US Post, Q3 figures for CoH. Sales are however up, probably due to microtransactions.

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See this page for details. COH is down to 124,939 accounts accessing monthly, with 13,443 maximum accounts online at the same time. That's the second lowest amount of monthly accesses ever posted, and not by much.

Spreadsheet with graph here.

The numbers are for September, before the advertising campaign on the web started. We'll see how well that's working in three months.

Sales for COH have increased, however: 5,721KRW in Q1, 5,743KRW in Q2, 6,193KRW in Q3 (8% of all NCsoft sales); that's a 6% increase QoQ and a 8% increase YoY; content updates and promotion are given as reasons for the growth here, though microtransactions most likely had something to do with it.

<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre> Highest
concurrent Monthly
users access Servers
Jun-2004 31,085 169,925 11
Sep-2004 26,870 163,053 11
Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Mar-2005 21,283 140,481 15
Jun-2005 20,911 162,922 15
Sep-2005 22,340 150,068 15
Dec-2005 23,730 194,000 15
Mar-2006 23,699 171,951 15
Jun-2006 22,274 171,000 15
Sep-2006 21,500 172,420 15
Dec-2006 17,728 154,953 15
Mar-2007 14,767 143,127 15
Jun-2007 26,669 153,331 15
Sep-2007 15,910 139,313 15
Dec-2007 17,058 136,250 15
Mar-2008 16,311 134,195 15
Jun-2008 17,206 137,026 15
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15</pre><hr />

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Seems to indicate that there are fewer people about but those about are buying things like the Cyborg pack etc.

The most striking thing to me is the drop in Monthly Access, which sorta reflects how I am at the mo, still paying subs but not actually connecting that much recently


 

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Taken from a US Post, Q3 figures for CoH. Sales are however up, probably due to microtransactions.

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See this page for details. COH is down to 124,939 accounts accessing monthly, with 13,443 maximum accounts online at the same time. That's the second lowest amount of monthly accesses ever posted, and not by much.

Spreadsheet with graph here.

The numbers are for September, before the advertising campaign on the web started. We'll see how well that's working in three months.

Sales for COH have increased, however: 5,721KRW in Q1, 5,743KRW in Q2, 6,193KRW in Q3 (8% of all NCsoft sales); that's a 6% increase QoQ and a 8% increase YoY; content updates and promotion are given as reasons for the growth here, though microtransactions most likely had something to do with it.

<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre> Highest
concurrent Monthly
users access Servers
Jun-2004 31,085 169,925 11
Sep-2004 26,870 163,053 11
Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Mar-2005 21,283 140,481 15
Jun-2005 20,911 162,922 15
Sep-2005 22,340 150,068 15
Dec-2005 23,730 194,000 15
Mar-2006 23,699 171,951 15
Jun-2006 22,274 171,000 15
Sep-2006 21,500 172,420 15
Dec-2006 17,728 154,953 15
Mar-2007 14,767 143,127 15
Jun-2007 26,669 153,331 15
Sep-2007 15,910 139,313 15
Dec-2007 17,058 136,250 15
Mar-2008 16,311 134,195 15
Jun-2008 17,206 137,026 15
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15</pre><hr />

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Seems to indicate that there are fewer people about but those about are buying things like the Cyborg pack etc.

The most striking thing to me is the drop in Monthly Access, which sorta reflects how I am at the mo, still paying subs but not actually connecting that much recently

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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.


 

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I think that may be the between issue drop, which is probably harsher due to the huge gap between the issues this time (yes I know there was a patch for qol)


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I think that may be the between issue drop, which is probably harsher due to the huge gap between the issues this time (yes I know there was a patch for qol)

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Issues are often just a 'extra' to give people interest again, little actualy is done about the gameplay itself (city of Farm, city of Solo).

Along with people leaving 'lesser populated' servers and not continue on other servers might cause an additional drop. (the first posts about low population on def/union are from july i believe). Take the 'big cut' of a month ago, another possible reason.


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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.

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It's a blow to those who insist on screeching the game is dying as well, tbh. 125k monthly users is a considerable number.


 

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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.

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It's a blow to those who insist on screeching the game is dying as well, tbh. 125k monthly users is a considerable number.

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You don't see anything wrong with the fact its (a) its over a 10% drop and (b) the lowest figure ever for joint USA &amp; EU?


 

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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.

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It's a blow to those who insist on screeching the game is dying as well, tbh. 125k monthly users is a considerable number.

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Nope, wrong, subscribers do not equal players, and non playing subscribers eventually stop being subscribers.


 

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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.


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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

*Edit : In fact the Number of Servers figure indicates I'm right (11 US, 15 US &amp; EU).

*Does the anti-pedant dance*


 

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ah yes...my bad, you said EU and US, well then I conceed it is the lowest figure ever.


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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

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Thought it was feb 2005 im sure thats when i started my account


 

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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

*Edit : In fact the Number of Servers figure indicates I'm right (11 US, 15 US &amp; EU).

*Does the anti-pedant dance*

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Feb 04 2005 was when the EU version launched. Dec 2004 was when EU Beta started.


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I did conceed the point and yowza...that is a massive tailoff over 10k subscribers seem to have gone in the space of a few months.


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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Was the game released in the EU in Dec 2004? I thought it was April 2005 when the EU started.

*Edit : In fact the Number of Servers figure indicates I'm right (11 US, 15 US &amp; EU).

*Does the anti-pedant dance*

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Feb 04 2005 was when the EU version launched. Dec 2004 was when EU Beta started.

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Beta wouldn't count in terms of #connections though, look at the #Servers cited in Dec 2004.

In any case it's not a very nice figure really, and it's most likely down to the gap between issues.

It'd be nice to have some EU only figures as well.


 

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It'd be nice to have some EU only figures as well

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Wouldn't it be a bit of masochism?

I guess if they were good, we'd have them


 

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It'd be nice to have some EU only figures as well

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Wouldn't it be a bit of masochism?

I guess if they were good, we'd have them

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It's a bit odd really, considering that the EU and US servers until recently were controlled by 2 separate companies.


 

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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.

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It's a blow to those who insist on screeching the game is dying as well, tbh. 125k monthly users is a considerable number.

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Nope, wrong, subscribers do not equal players, and non playing subscribers eventually stop being subscribers.

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It does say Access, so surely that would mean people who logged onto the game, as opposed to just being number of accounts?


 

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Oh well thats a blow to the "more people than ever playing / numbers aint down" brigade.

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It's a blow to those who insist on screeching the game is dying as well, tbh. 125k monthly users is a considerable number.

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Nope, wrong, subscribers do not equal players, and non playing subscribers eventually stop being subscribers.

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It does say Access, so surely that would mean people who logged onto the game, as opposed to just being number of accounts?

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Well if the 1st column is accounts and the 2nd is the times those accounts accessed the game, they are both at an all time low i think.

Reading that again, 1st column might be users on at one time, god knows, both figures are a good bit down on the period before though aint they.


 

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December '05 FTW!


 

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Well if the 1st column is accounts and the 2nd is the times those accounts accessed the game, they are both at an all time low i think.

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Looks to me like the first column is the highest number of users online at one time for that month, and the second is the total number of times users logged on that month. However, they are both at their lowest (barring the dec 2004 figure).


 

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reads to me as time period, concurrent user peaks, total number of subscribers.

from those numbers, i would say the need to do what war have done and allow controlled server migration really with the concurrent numbers of users listed their we shouldn't need many more than 7 servers, never mind 15.


 

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reads to me as time period, concurrent user peaks, total number of subscribers.

from those numbers, i would say the need to do what war have done and allow controlled server migration really with the concurrent numbers of users listed their we shouldn't need many more than 7 servers, never mind 15.

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CoH does allow "controlled" server migration. They just have been charging you for the privilage....

No wonder total sales are up


 

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You don't see anything wrong with the fact its (a) its over a 10% drop and (b) the lowest figure ever for joint USA &amp; EU?

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"The game is not dying."

"[censored] HOW CAN YOU SAY THERE'S NOT A DROP"

Er, yeah. Take my post in its full context please.

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Nope, wrong, subscribers do not equal players, and non playing subscribers eventually stop being subscribers.

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Subscribers are still there, despite the best claims of the anti-CoX brigade.


 

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Pedant mode:

It's not the lowest figure ever montly access wise but it is for highest concurrent users.

Dec-2004 15,741 124,435 11
Sep-2008 13,443 124,939 15

504 in difference...so we're not quite there just yet.

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Yet, avarage per server has thus dropped alot.
(as there are 4 more servers, yet equal ammount of players).

Likewise, if they would merge thise 15 servers into (lets say) 8 servers, suddenly most servers will be rather alive and very well populated.

So relative seeing, its below dec '04.


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