Time for a Nerf?


CactusBrawler

 

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Okay - I'm on standby to be shot down in flames

*Disclaimer*
This is my own personal opinion and does not reflect the opinions of others. If you can't respect personal opinions please leave this thread
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Freakshow. I believe it's time these tin-plated vandals got an XP nerf.

Why?

I am tired of being on teams that only want to do Freakshow missions. Recently it seems that teams I have been on (different toons at different levels) have only done Freak missions because of the XP they offer. Freaks in warehouse, Freaks in office, Freaks in sewers, etc… I've read in a couple of recent posts that I am not the only one to notice this.

I don't follow all the figures like XP per second so don't fully understand why or how Freaks can offer more XP per second then other mob types.

I am starting to feel that I am missing out on content by teaming. If I want to do arcs am I going to have to build my own teams and listen to the moans when I don't deliver Freakshow missions?

Maybe the game needs to be changed so that Freaks are only available within a certain lvl range - and not perma available via Newspapers, or maybe it is an XP nerf that’s needed. Or perhaps it’s the actual Newspaper missions that need to be nerf’d so that they don’t offer as much XP as arc missions (i.e. reduce the XP for Newspaper missions by 50% mobs and bonus).

These are just my own thoughts on a subject that is starting to get on my nerves a little.


 

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If you are on Union try teaming with me. I tend to smack people that even think about suggestiong freakshow missions.


 

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If you are on Union try teaming with me. I tend to smack people that even think about suggestiong freakshow missions.

[/ QUOTE ]even if they get the freakshow story arc? like rikti freaks?? or the super freak?


 

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If you are on Union try teaming with me. I tend to smack people that even think about suggestiong freakshow missions.

[/ QUOTE ]even if they get the freakshow story arc? like rikti freaks?? or the super freak?

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All and any freaks.
I might consider but I have to be in a pretty darn bored for it.


 

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Dear oh dear, if it aint farming ruining the game for people, its teams wanting to do paper missions.

Now freaks, give it up mate.


 

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Dear oh dear, if it aint farming ruining the game for people, its teams wanting to do paper missions.

Now freaks, give it up mate.

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I have no problem with Farming or Newspaper missions in general - it's this growing fetish for Freak only teams that I am growing tired of.


 

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The Freakshow really aren't so much more dangerous as to warrant giving extra XP. I'd support them being adjusted to normal XP levels as a balance tweak more than as a farming fix.


Chairman of the Charity of Pain; accepting donations of blood and guts.

Prophet of the Creamy Truth; "If it's empty, fill it with cream."

 

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The Freakshow really aren't so much more dangerous as to warrant giving extra XP. I'd support them being adjusted to normal XP levels as a balance tweak more than as a farming fix.

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Freaks got:

Spike melee damage,Revive power,mez,ranged dmg and additional hp not to mention bosses being a menace and having kb as well.

That justifies exta xp pretty nicely.

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Time for a Nerf?

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No.Do other missions if you want or dont join pug farm teams.

EDIT: Weird this fetish cause cant be related to farming.Farmers farm different missions atm.


 

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No.Do other missions if you want or dont join pug farm teams.

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^ This

Leave freaks as they are.-


 

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Spike melee damage,Revive power,mez,ranged dmg and additional hp not to mention bosses being a menace and having kb as well.

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The words don't really match up to the reality. Every faction has its advantages, but don't have extra XP attached to them. I've got melee toons who mash the Freaks with hilarious, contemptible ease, but take a kicking from Tsoo. My blasters turn Tsoo inside out and turned into a greasy smear by the Freaks.

They're the same as every other normal XP faction, they're not a wide ranging "Haha, F U!" faction of doom justifying extra XP from them.


Chairman of the Charity of Pain; accepting donations of blood and guts.

Prophet of the Creamy Truth; "If it's empty, fill it with cream."

 

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Spike melee damage,Revive power,mez,ranged dmg and additional hp not to mention bosses being a menace and having kb as well.

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On the other hand, they don't have pesky resistances, psionic damage, emanators, portal, -acc or -def, vengance, caltrops, endurance drainers or many other "fun" abilities.

As an enemy, freakshow is not particularly intimidating or difficult than other factions, and don't really deserve any extra XP.


 

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I love to fight freaks, whenever I can on any toon I can. I also enjoy story arc's regardless of the enemy, and I join TF's whenever time permits.

If the team I had joined/formed wanted to spend the evening doing something I didn't fancy then I would change teams and or toons, I would not yell for the foe to be given a nerf.
I don't like fighting tsoo, I am not keen on malta, they have historically handed me my butt regardless of toon I pitch against them, I would not for a moment call for them to be nerfed and spoil the pleasure of those who do like them though.

Live and let live I say, the variety of the game is what makes it enjoyable, nerf all our apponents to the point where they all offer the same rewards and the loss would only be ours


 

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Freakshow are fine, they are a lot more annoying than a lot of other groups at comparative levels.

As for the "bonus" XP, I've never really noticed any HUGE difference. The majority of the 'extra' XP with Freakshow that I seem to see comes from those that Rez - especially bosses.


 

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on my last 1-50 I think I must have done a total of maybe 10 freak missions the whole time, made up from playing with friends, soloing and PuGs. The most were in the last few levels doing the "To Save A Thousand Worlds" arc.

I tend to find freaks a bit slower to take down than other groups with sets I play. Someone linked previously to a list of multipliers for the different mobs. Some of those surprised me as some groups I personally found 'easy' got a higher multiplier than groups I tended to try and avoid as I found them comparatively 'difficult'.


 

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On the other hand, they don't have pesky resistances, psionic damage, emanators, portal, -acc or -def, vengance, caltrops, endurance drainers or many other "fun" abilities.

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I am all for increasing xp from carnies,Sister Psyche mission,Clock King and Nemesis. Would be so awsome.

Psi clocks farming is so sexy its crazy

PS: For the record Freaks mission runs are slower xp than current farm missions due to slower progression through the mission.

Only situation i farm dreck map is a)when we bring 6 accounts online consisting of fire/sonic,fire/kin,fire/kin,fire/kin +2 randoms

b) Flashback system.


 

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Wow - some interesting points of view raised so far.

I guess part of my issue is on a team doing nothing but Freak missions (and Newspapers in general) it gets more then a little repeatitive.

Personally I hope the mission creator allows us (thats the community) to design more engaging missions, as to please the majority of us.


 

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That's not a fault with the enemy group, that's the fault of the people in the team.

Freaks are actually slower XP than a lot of other groups because of Dull Pain and having to deal with those that Rez.


 

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Personally I hope the mission creator allows us (thats the community) to design more engaging missions, as to please the majority of us.

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The actual story is very engaging as it is. Why would PCC stop the people you mention doing 'freek papurz!'?


 

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G-i-v-e I-t U-p!


 

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The actual story is very engaging as it is. Why would PCC stop the people you mention doing 'freek papurz!'?

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What story? In Paper missions? Thats a story?

Interesting point of view.


 

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G-i-v-e I-t U-p!

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Give what up? Please, if you have a point to make explain it.


 

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G-i-v-e I-t U-p!

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Give what up? Please, if you have a point to make explain it.

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Its so annoying when all people want is nerfs, ruining the game because THEY don't like how its currently working. I'm all up for ideas that are CONSTRUCTIVE to how the game currently is working. Please let me see the constructive side to this stupid idea?


 

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G-i-v-e I-t U-p!

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Give what up? Please, if you have a point to make explain it.

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Its so annoying when all people want is nerfs, ruining the game because THEY don't like how its currently working. I'm all up for ideas that are CONSTRUCTIVE to how the game currently is working. Please let me see the constructive side to this stupid idea?

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Thank you for spelling out your point - however I don't think the aggressive tone was called for (i.e. the caps).

My point is that a lot of good content is missed by players only doing the Newspaper missions because of they give better XP (or atleast it is believed by some that they give better XP - I think the jury is out on that).

I thought one reason the Newspapers were introduced was to make sure that players had a supply of missions when their arc contacts ran dry. (I might be wrong).

By lowering the XP available in Newspaper mission it might "encourgage" people to go back to the arcs and remind themselves waht they've been missing.

Apologies if I've miss read your post and you weren't being aggressive.


 

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Meh i wasn't being agressive, but all you find after each nerf, is another nerf suggestion its annoying as hell. And i can't see your point sorry, ever thought of the idea people enjoy doing the freaks, yes maybe because they give nice XP, but possibly they also enjoy that? besides, who says these people that are "missing out" are actually missing out? maybe there prespective of fun isn't the same as yours.


 

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Meh i wasn't being agressive, but all you find after each nerf, is another nerf suggestion its annoying as hell. And i can't see your point sorry, ever thought of the idea people enjoy doing the freaks, yes maybe because they give nice XP, but possibly they also enjoy that? besides, who says these people that are "missing out" are actually missing out? maybe there prespective of fun isn't the same as yours.

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All fair and vaild points. Thanks for the input.