Think the problem that you will have here is the lack of damage that you will be doing... and the endurance you will use up to accomplish this. Not to mention the Res you need to survive a 6 man mission solo with all mobs at least +2.
Its a nice Idea,, and it would probably work super with a fire/kin too.. but solo i can see a few issues that you will have to resolve first.
* Lack of Immobilize makes it possible for the groups to spread out and negate your Aoe's 
* Groups of about 12 Family and 4 of them are lieutenants i dont think that your damage output will be enough to wipe a group in matter of seconds
* The longer you take to wipe the longer they are going to be shooting back :/
* Endurance will be a huge issue as you will be constantly spamming attacks.
But if you wanna give it a bash, come with me on a few runs I'll get you some super xp and you can experience what its like on your blaster.
/t Kawaiii
=D
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
I dont see the imob issue (said will be using Invoke Panic which stops people wondering)
Dont see an end issue if he uses Consume as well.
What I so see is a strange primary for it. If you were elec/fire with the extra two AoEs I'd rate the chances higher. Just cant see Fistful being much use, which is a shame as its a nice blaster attack
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Happy b-day Cynic 
Sorry for the off topic. Proceed!
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Current projects - [Glaciologist - Ill/Cold Troller] [Cloudshaper - Storm/Dark Def] [Harald Wartooth - Elec/Psi Domi]
Maybe it is worth waiting a bit for Issue 12...psychic blast and stuff you know. 
(anyways, for primary, elec would be a nice choice...short circuit's end drain is very handy when you stand in the middle of baddie mob.)
invoke panic doesnt work that way once they get hit they can start moving and with all the dot going on its not even going to be noticable.
I forgot to mention Rain of Arrows will be part of my attack chain, so it's likely to be:
BU + Aim -> Invoke Panic -> Rain of Arrows -> Fire Sword Circle
Rain of Arrows has a 16 second recharge time in my build, by the way...
I'm pretty sure all that is enough to wipe out a mob.
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I dont see the imob issue (said will be using Invoke Panic which stops people wondering)
Dont see an end issue if he uses Consume as well.
What I so see is a strange primary for it. If you were elec/fire with the extra two AoEs I'd rate the chances higher. Just cant see Fistful being much use, which is a shame as its a nice blaster attack
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Rain of Arrows, is the main reason I went Arch/, 16 second recharge time on a light nova that does'nt drain all your end is not something I'll be complaining about. 
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I dont see the imob issue (said will be using Invoke Panic which stops people wondering)
Dont see an end issue if he uses Consume as well.
What I so see is a strange primary for it. If you were elec/fire with the extra two AoEs I'd rate the chances higher. Just cant see Fistful being much use, which is a shame as its a nice blaster attack
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Rain of Arrows, is the main reason I went Arch/, 16 second recharge time on a light nova that does'nt drain all your end is not something I'll be complaining about.
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I dont see the imob issue (said will be using Invoke Panic which stops people wondering)
Dont see an end issue if he uses Consume as well.
What I so see is a strange primary for it. If you were elec/fire with the extra two AoEs I'd rate the chances higher. Just cant see Fistful being much use, which is a shame as its a nice blaster attack
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Rain of Arrows, is the main reason I went Arch/, 16 second recharge time on a light nova that does'nt drain all your end is not something I'll be complaining about.
[/ QUOTE ]To problems are- it's location based, so a mob could move away from it, and it does have a really long activation time.
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That's what Invoke Panic is for.
Invoke Panic wont work the way you think it will but good luck m8
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Invoke Panic wont work the way you think it will but good luck m8
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exactomento
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Invoke Panic wont work the way you think it will but good luck m8
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When I had it on my DM/Regen it did what I wanted but I'm guessing its not as potent on the whole stand still like an idiot thing that Fearsome Stare does for my dark MM right?
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
As soon as the enemies are attack they can start moving, and they will have dot effects on them because fsc does dot and combustion too, soit's basicly useless
So it'll function as a sleep really.
tbh RoA+FSC should be enough though, but Presence is useless. Pick the ice epic for sleep if you want.
I'll be on tonight for a wee bit. /t Kawaiii and you can test your build so far on the family mission... I'll sk you for some xp and try it out.
I'll look out for combined harvester
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
I know a fire/fire blaster who does tha family farm and has a pretty good success rate so I can't see you having a great problem with Arch/Fire tbh. Fire dmg is usually good enough to see you through and RoA is a fantastic 'kill all' power
Golden-Phoenix - Lvl 50 Fire/Fire Tank
Oodja Nikabolokov - Lvl 50 SS/WP Brute
Baby-Phoenix - Lvl 50 Peacebringer
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could Chuck Norris?
ur better off getting recall friend and vegeance and using a veng bot and just lawl all the time.
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My fire/fire uses this tactic, can pretty much farm by itself, combine with a fire/kin and you will 1-2 shot the mobs. FSC and fireball is LOL with FS And you can run hot feet and fiery aura when imob´d by the troller.
Invoke panic only fears minions so you are gonna have lieuts shooting your face while you activate rain of arrows.
elec/elec is about the only really self sufficient blaster that is able to farm without outside assistence but its not exactly fast. SC+PS=whole mob with no endurance so just whittle them down and move to the next mob, I sometimes dual farm on my elec/elec when i got nothing better to do with a fire/kin, i dip in and out of fulcrum shift and run off on my own
Isn't elec/fire the mele blasters farming choice? Seems to be very popular on the us boards.
Yeah it's a decent choice, but Rain of Arrows does'nt drain all your end and it recharges ALOT faster than Thunderous Blast. In my case it'll be up every 16 seconds.
I have no idea why Elec/ is being used to much because it's very weak damage wise. And the end drain is relatively drawn out so you'll have taken some serious damage before the mob is drained of all endurance.
Eles has to aoe's thats probebly why
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Eles has to aoe's thats probebly why
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They're both weak damage-wise though.
I decided to make a very original build for farming the usual family mission instead of a Fire/Kin. The basic tactic here is:
Run into the middle of the mob with Super Speed -> Invoke Panic -> Fire Sword Circle -> Combustion -> Rinse & Repeat
Anyway, I'm pretty confident with it, but it's always nice to see other peoples thoughts on what is hopefully an innovative build.
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Combine Harvester: Level 50 Natural Blaster
Primary Power Set: Archery
Secondary Power Set: Fire Manipulation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Presence
Ancillary Pool: Force Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Aimed Shot -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(3), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(5), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(5)
Level 1: Ring of Fire -- GravAnch-Immob(A), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(7), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(7), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(9), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(9)
Level 2: Fire Sword -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(11), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(13), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(13)
Level 4: Fistful of Arrows -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(15), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(17), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(17)
Level 6: Combustion -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(21), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Acc-I(23)
Level 8: Aim -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(23), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-Rchg(27)
Level 10: Fire Sword Circle -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(27), HO:Nucle(29)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(29), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def(33)
Level 14: Super Jump -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(33), HO:Micro(33), ULeap-Stlth(37)
Level 16: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(34), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(34), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(34), AdjTgt-Rchg(36)
Level 18: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(36)
Level 22: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(36)
Level 24: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 28: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(40)
Level 30: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(40), HO:Micro(42)
Level 32: Rain of Arrows -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(42), HO:Nucle(42), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 35: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Provoke -- Insult-Dsrnt%(A), Acc-I(40), Acc-I(48)
Level 41: Intimidate -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(46), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(46), Abys-Fear/Rng(48), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Invoke Panic -- HO:Endo(A), HO:Endo(45), HO:Endo(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(46), U'spkT-Stun%(50)
Level 47: Personal Force Field -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Temp Invulnerability -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(50), HO:Ribo(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
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