Not to sure what time of day your playing, i would say the peak time on Defiant is between 6pm-10pm UK time.
As far as i know Defiant is no better or worse than Union for PvP.
Compared with the US though all the EU servers are quiet sadly.
Kinda sucks that the two English servers can't be merged.
Freedom (US) has more players than Union and Defiant put together lol. At least if Defiant and Union were merged we'd have a fairly bustling community.
I orginally picked defiant when i started, becuase it sounded cooler
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But I find the problem is in Bloody Bay... I've seen 2 heroes in a week there lol. Is Defiant just no good for PvP?
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I never thought bloody bay as a place for pvp.. 
But zone pvp is only half of the pvp. More people to the zones would be a welcome thing so welcome to defiant.
I scout the zones occasionally but opposing side tends to leave after Ive been few minutes on the zone..
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But I find the problem is in Bloody Bay... I've seen 2 heroes in a week there lol. Is Defiant just no good for PvP?
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Could be that PvP is just boring, pointless and badly implemented in this game - but that's just my opinion 
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But I find the problem is in Bloody Bay... I've seen 2 heroes in a week there lol. Is Defiant just no good for PvP?
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Could be that PvP is just boring, pointless and badly implemented in this game - but that's just my opinion
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I think the problem that majority or people just arent competitive enough, nor can stand the harsh reality of going against real people compared to the soft fluffy computer-controlled opponents of PvE. But thats just my opinion 
PVP in this game is the best I have so far come across in a PC game.
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I think the problem that majority or people just arent competitive enough, nor can stand the harsh reality of going against real people compared to the soft fluffy computer-controlled opponents of PvE. But thats just my opinion
PVP in this game is the best I have so far come across in a PC game.
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Been trying to articulate this for some time now but you just hit the nail on the head
While its hard to agree with you here i find i have to, defiant villains has gotten to be abit of a ghost town.
Last night there was 135 people online that i could see at about 9pm while hero side there was over 400.
Hard to say why this has happend and i dont think its anything to do with the union dxp as the numbers had been going down way before that.
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I think the problem that majority or people just arent competitive enough, nor can stand the harsh reality of going against real people compared to the soft fluffy computer-controlled opponents of PvE. But thats just my opinion
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Not at all - I enjoy competitive gaming - but I don't enjoy a scaled down version of PvE combat where it's all about getting my toggles dropped, which seems to happen every time I get hit, and then getting pounded into pavement.
I'm just not masochistic enough for that to be enjoyable
Perhaps Bloody Bay was a bad or controversial example of the population.
Just generally, it doesn't have the MMO vibe sometimes. I'd like to hang around key areas like the Black Market, Arena, even starting areas and see a bustling hive of activity.
I started a new trial account on the US servers after I posted and did Find Players... guess what, over 1000 villains online lol
In fact, right this moment 2:10 UK time, 7:10 East Coast US time... there are 78 people on Defiant.. over 200 on Freedom US
I'm very tempted to reopen my US account lol
I'd prefer to be with brits... but I'd also like to have a decent sized community :-(
On the other hand, if people come in, take a look and go to US, our community isnt ever gonna get larger.
Meh. If the recent double exp lag-fest has shown us anything, it's that the EU server infastructure can't handle a "decent sized community" all being online at once.
I really wish that the EU would get around to upgrading their downright awful internet backbone.
The country-to-country "pipes" are bogged down with traffic on a GOOD evening... the UK telephone network's power crisis and the fact that a sizable portion is still built on centuries-old copper wiring doesn't help matters.
(For starters, anything with the word "Tiscali" on it should be ripped out and melted down for scrap metal!)
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Kinda sucks that the two English servers can't be merged.
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I don't see any TECHNICAL problem it can't be merged.
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I really wish that the EU would get around to upgrading their downright awful internet backbone.
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Simple reason, price. For just 4 days they have alot of players 1 specific server, after that it becames balanced again.
Even more simple, if you download day and night on Bittorrent at 200KB/s, but a certain weekend you have acces to a newserver that hits 800KB/s. Would you just upgrade your 2mbit line to 8mbit just for those 4 days and pay tripple the fee while your total download never increased (= playerbase).
The entire backbone of Europe is far far far stronger then just a few 100 players that try to play a game. (go see stats for example of the AMX).
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It's nothing to do with the end user's line bandwidth.
Or even (probably) the EU CoH server itself.
It's to do with the performance of backend servers through which all ISPs route. Like those of "level3".
The backbone that handles internet traffic within the EU is awful compared to the link between the EU and US.
To test this for yourself, Do two "pathpings" to the main CoH EU server (206.127.144.132) one early in the morning and one at about 6-7PM. Then compare them.
You'll note how the connection times and packet loss increases dramatically whenever everyone's on in the evening. It's these servers which are causing problems across the EU, and in the UK in particular.
The last few hops before the CoH server are located geographically closer to that server (Germany) and the one 2-hops before the end is a Tiscali-owned server which has a history of bad performance.
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Kinda sucks that the two English servers can't be merged.
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I don't see any TECHNICAL problem it can't be merged.
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After the dxp weekend on Union server, I don't think it would be such a good idea to merge them. There is no better example to give. Unless the servers were upgraded to be able to cope, it will never happen.
There are other factors invovled, toon names and such, but the crappy servers are the main factor.
To be honest, i think Defiants low population at the moment is because of the Double Exp on Union, so everybody is playing their chars over there.
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I think the problem that majority or people just arent competitive enough, nor can stand the harsh reality of going against real people compared to the soft fluffy computer-controlled opponents of PvE. But thats just my opinion
PVP in this game is the best I have so far come across in a PC game.
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Been trying to articulate this for some time now but you just hit the nail on the head
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Have to disagree entirely. I'd say that's fairly dismissive.
I think people are plenty competitive enough. The whole PVP thing IMO is attitude of a certain quality that is, frankly, just boring. It's not "harsh", insulting or offensive. It's just tedious and most people are probably more inclined to do the activities ingame that are fun and involve sharing a good time and fun together.
I have to ask whether you mean the best PvP in an MMORPG game Hammer'. I'd find it suprising that COX PVP has the best that any PC game has to offer 
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Thread's about Defiant population, and I have to agree, it's really poor. Union sits at around 300+ consistently. That's way over Defiant which floats pretty meekly over around 120ish.
Better prospects for teams and community seem likely in a higher populated server, and the chance to maybe participate in things like a villain Hamidon raid at some point.
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Freedom (US) has more players than Union and Defiant put together lol. At least if Defiant and Union were merged we'd have a fairly bustling community.
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Freedom has more than almost any two other US servers combined so not really a good comparison.
Mind of Gaia lvl 50 Defiant's first Mind/Storm 'troller.
Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant
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Freedom (US) has more players than Union and Defiant put together lol. At least if Defiant and Union were merged we'd have a fairly bustling community.
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Freedom has more than almost any two other US servers combined so not really a good comparison.
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Not really, there are 4-5 servers that at least double defiant and union together over there
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I think the problem that majority or people just arent competitive enough, nor can stand the harsh reality of going against real people compared to the soft fluffy computer-controlled opponents of PvE. But thats just my opinion
PVP in this game is the best I have so far come across in a PC game.
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Been trying to articulate this for some time now but you just hit the nail on the head
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Damn right! the speed it involves, knowledge of strong and weak points not only in your build but also in the other guy's one, the continuous need of improvisation... makes PvP here the best in MMO's so far without any doubt imo. Only Street Fighter almost 15 years ago, and Tekken later on (being both so different to CoX as they are) have ever provided so much fun fighting vs a friend.
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Not really, there are 4-5 servers that at least double defiant and union together over there
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I'd say Freedom is the only one where this is the case, there's only one other which regularly gets into the yellow, all the others appear to be a very similar peak level as either Defiant or Union. I've actually seen Defiant at yellow (and even red once) more often than any of them other than the big 2
Mind of Gaia lvl 50 Defiant's first Mind/Storm 'troller.
Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant
hate to tell u this but cox is nearly dead in the U.S.
I live in the U.S., the only reason i'm on UK is because my friends i had and got me into the game were here, but all but 1 long gone 2 wow.
in the U.S. we can't buy cox - any copy of it from the gaming stores, we have to find it on ebay or 'sometimes' a copy will be left at like best buy.
all the gaming shops removed them, and just destroyed them rather then ship them back, as "a Waste of space" and "a dead game taking up our shelves".
just ask other U.S. gamers, it is sad, i like this game (until recently) and have been getting nothing from my UK friends on wow but copies of wow and to come over and forget about cox.
Brutes: Doc O'Bay (yup, was me lvl2-48) Doc O'Bay Jr., Sihing, Belphanior, Mr. Lich & Joker's Wylde MMs, Rad'Man Corr, Lockup Dom, Suicide King Stalker, Lord Florentine DB/WP Brute, Tygercide Scrapper......Scrapper?? what the heck is he doing here???
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hate to tell u this but cox is nearly dead in the U.S.
I live in the U.S., the only reason i'm on UK is because my friends i had and got me into the game were here, but all but 1 long gone 2 wow.
in the U.S. we can't buy cox - any copy of it from the gaming stores, we have to find it on ebay or 'sometimes' a copy will be left at like best buy.
all the gaming shops removed them, and just destroyed them rather then ship them back, as "a Waste of space" and "a dead game taking up our shelves".
just ask other U.S. gamers, it is sad, i like this game (until recently) and have been getting nothing from my UK friends on wow but copies of wow and to come over and forget about cox.
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This is not in any way a very factual post
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I've noticed how few Villains there are on Defiant compared to Union. At peak hours, Defiant seems to have around 120-150 villains online. Whether as Union has 400+
I'm not completely new to CoV. I played the 14 day trial a while back on USA servers. There were so many more people around than I see on Defiant.
Does anyone find this lack of population to be annoying?
I suppose it means there's a close-knit community. I find I bump into the same people over and over, which I guess is kinda nice.
But I find the problem is in Bloody Bay... I've seen 2 heroes in a week there lol. Is Defiant just no good for PvP?