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I like PvPing with stalkers. I like to hear them moan.
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Which strong points have been taken away?
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mostly the invisablty power that was there strong point but now alot of people can see them and stalkers are very weak and cant make much damage.
p.s i wasent moaning iam trying to find out if any one thinks the same
I quite like the fact that alot of Heroes can see my Stalker in PvP. It takes away the relience on AS, allows you to work on your timing/positioning and generally adds to the challange of playing a Stalker in zone PvP when there are so many 'Stalker Hunters' kicking about.
ok, much to the suprise of most people who think I only ever PvP'd last night. As a stalker you have a lot going for you in PvP.
Don't forget that the Hide power is NOT your most powerful power in your set, Placate is as it immediately offers you a chance to attack. Used correctly, and at the right time, Placate has given me a lot of notches on my Stalkers belt in terms of defeated Hero's.
The problem with any given PvP situation is that people want unfair advantages and will always look to work on builds that counter the advantages of others. It would be unfair to always be totally invisible don't forget but even without that, with a little forethought, that needn't stop you.
Another friend of the stalker is closed terrain. Hunt hero's indoors where fly isn't a viable escape route for them to run away like most people seem to. Stalkers are about short, quick finishes on targets, again, use your camera rotation keys to look round corners before you turn them yourself, so that if you are hidden, you can start your assassin strike at the moment the target passes the corner.
Normally this results in a successful AS without having to use placate to achieve the first hit.
Give it a go and see what you think.
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true challenges are a good thing but i have been in alot of pvp where if you are out numbered at all your dead and you cant get away easy.
With some stalkers they think they are safe just by flying around in hide but by thinking that they become the hunted and get sneaked up on them self
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With some stalkers they think they are safe just by flying around in hide but by thinking that they become the hunted and get sneaked up on them self
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Anyone of any AT who allows themselves to be complacent in a PvP zone deserves to be casually dismembered by someone who's paying attention 
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ok, much to the suprise of most people who think I only ever PvP'd last night. As a stalker you have a lot going for you in PvP.
Don't forget that the Hide power is NOT your most powerful power in your set, Placate is as it immediately offers you a chance to attack. Used correctly, and at the right time, Placate has given me a lot of notches on my Stalkers belt in terms of defeated Hero's.
The problem with any given PvP situation is that people want unfair advantages and will always look to work on builds that counter the advantages of others. It would be unfair to always be totally invisible don't forget but even without that, with a little forethought, that needn't stop you.
Another friend of the stalker is closed terrain. Hunt hero's indoors where fly isn't a viable escape route for them to run away like most people seem to. Stalkers are about short, quick finishes on targets, again, use your camera rotation keys to look round corners before you turn them yourself, so that if you are hidden, you can start your assassin strike at the moment the target passes the corner.
Normally this results in a successful AS without having to use placate to achieve the first hit.
Give it a go and see what you think.
[/ QUOTE ]I agree i have been doing the things you said ever since i found out that they can see me ages ago it has been working but as you where saying they get a unfair advantage and it does get alot of stalkers who can actaly fight in a pvp zone stressed because they are fighting to quite hard just to finsh off an oppent yes they can use placate but they are so weak in health they will be probly dead before they attack that is if they are out numbered
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With some stalkers they think they are safe just by flying around in hide but by thinking that they become the hunted and get sneaked up on them self
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Anyone of any AT who allows themselves to be complacent in a PvP zone deserves to be casually dismembered by someone who's paying attention
[/ QUOTE ]very true if some one is careless they should die.
but if there not there for the pvp reason just to do missions like some people do for some instead of acatly do proper missions in the right area but they would be flying around carelessly
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stalkers are very weak and cant make much damage.
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Lol!
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I like PvPing with stalkers. I like to hear them moan.
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Lol again! The one kill you got on mine was when i had killed you and was typing a lil trashtalk and u used rise of the phoenix 
. Now as soon as you drop i run like 2 miles away from ur body before typing again, alv 
What who you do that wiht ???
My stalker, Hashimoto... and i can tell you that i agree with you on PvP being unfair on stalkers... but because they are overpowered at least in the zones
Hehe unfair,not at all, i like a good challenge for my stalker.I always aproach a person as though he has seen me using the buildings and landscape to my advantage,and in the confusion of battle i get my kill then swiftly make haste.
But the Invention system has some really good choices for stalkers defensive sets along with Damage sets and also if mixed you can get some good results.
To recap Stalkers do well in zone Pvp,you can have alot of fun with the heroes just doing runbys on the defenders or Tp them away and out of the battle while your team goes in and creates havoc.A well played Stalker is a match for almost anyone.
PvP against stalkers (I play defenders, generally):
I see a lot of stalkers that provide pretty easy kills - they don't learn to play their sets well (possibly because it's quite easy for them to get a reasonable number of kills anyway against players who don't keep moving - of which I see a great deal), and make a series of mistakes, which lead to them getting slowed, debuffed or drained, and killed, or being fairly easily driven away or avoided.
If there's a semi-decent stalker around, prior to epics, I'd probably die if I make a single mistake (e.g. firing a longer animating attack at a bad time and rooting myself on the ground for a while).
Inventions have been very good to the solo stalker.
I thought the original post was going to be sarcastic.
yes stalkers are quite good if you use your mind and play out what you are gona do on the field of combat.But it matter which type of stalker you are like spike,claw,energy and dark melee so each one has its own type of attack way to find out.
Iam spike stalker and i have found out a good plan is imple when not looking then placate and assians strike it is very useful and many people cant do any thing to stop it.
p.s i have other ways as well
pvp is only unfair on stalkers BECAUSE everyone goes after them 1st otherwise they know within 2/3 hits they'r going to be AS'd.
And remember not everyone who goes into pvp zones have +perception (a lot of controllers/tanks dont that i know of).
Stalkers are a lot of fun to play against imo, mainly because the good ones dont rely on AS all the time - and these are the stalkers who get my respect 
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pvp is only unfair on stalkers BECAUSE everyone goes after them 1st otherwise they know within 2/3 hits they'r going to be AS'd.
And remember not everyone who goes into pvp zones have +perception (a lot of controllers/tanks dont that i know of).
Stalkers are a lot of fun to play against imo, mainly because the good ones dont rely on AS all the time - and these are the stalkers who get my respect
[/ QUOTE ]that is one of the most biggest things in pvp with stalkers is ganking.
I have been in pvp alot and if theres a big fight and every one is fighting if i attack some one and come out of hide mostly half of the heros go aggro on me and start riping me up.
Its annoying >-<
Stalkers come right after corrs and domis on the attack list because of how quick they can deal dmg and how quick they die. Brutes and MMs are left till all the rest are down
My Stalker can two shot a squishy in Sirens without AS. That's hideously underpowered, buff please.
Stalkers are really usefull in PvP in my opinion, with a lot of strong points, unless you're fighting an unsupressed team that also has ranged damage.
What it sounds like to me is that you've come up against Empath/Sonic heavy teams that are stacking the +Perception. Find yourself a Therm, Cold or Sonic Corrupter and grab Stealth from the Stealth Pool and you'll do much better. Especially if the corrupter also has Grant Invis.
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My Stalker can two shot a squishy in Sirens without AS. That's hideously underpowered, buff please.
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Thats one powerset. Personally I think its stupid that the other powersets arent anywhere near that damage without AS. Try the above with a claws stalker for instance..
ps. However, PVP isnt unfair on stalkers per se. They just arent as overpowered as many people want to think.
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My Stalker can two shot a squishy in Sirens without AS. That's hideously underpowered, buff please.
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Thats one powerset. Personally I think its stupid that the other powersets arent anywhere near that damage without AS. Try the above with a claws stalker for instance..
ps. However, PVP isnt unfair on stalkers per se. They just arent as overpowered as many people want to think.
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Claws/ does have some redeeming features that EM/ has for damage.
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Claws/ does have some redeeming features that EM/ has for damage.
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They are however largely inconsequential in pvp (the range in focus is the only pvp-viable 'redeeming feature', but it is not enough to balance it with EM).
ps. Im not saying that im unhappy with my lvl 36 claws/nin stalker. Im just saying that EM has stupid and unjustifiable lead when damage is concerned.
it is getting on my nerves that stalkers strong points are getting taken away and i would like to hear wwhat you think about PvP with stalkers