i have found out a tatic with people who can see you its very uselfull for all stalkers who need help its like this.
Hide behind small stuff like big crate broken things and any thing that can cover ur full size and keep watching your target as soon as they turn there back go straight in there and stop right next to them as quick as you can then you can as them.
if they start turning round while you running quickly use any high type of transport power or tp and then just do it from the other side.
What do you guys think ??
I think its quite an obvious way to play, but a lot of people dont get it so I'm glad you caught on. Another is to send a tell then run in and assasinate them while they are busy typing a response :P
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My final thought.. Stalkers underpowered.. Hell no. I have played my MA/SR in all kinds of zones and even when against a Blaster/Emp combo I scored alot more kills then they managed it's all timing and LOS. When I'm seen it makes the whole PvP alot more fun.
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Must be a very bad empath and blaster then...
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Thanks for the vote of confidance Psy 
It was two pairs of this combo in SC that i played around with once with my duo stlaker buddy. At the end of it they wern't getting the kills as we could burst through the emp's healing.
Also using placiate at the right time and blocking shots by corners is what we did which ended up us earning alot of kills.. Waiting for a blaster to run at u then hit BU & Aim then u placiate before he gets to melee can annoy them a fair bit
Blaster/Emp combos r good but not invicible imo
it's the whole thing with getting used to fighting with being seen it takes a while to get right on stlakers but can be very very effective 
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Let's say me and thrusty we're in warburg you wouldn't be able to burst through my healing the only thing that annoys me about stalkers us the stun from energy melee but if i have bfs that wouldn't be a problem. I constantly move so you'll get 1 hit in then I start spamming heal aura and run. Sorry can't se how a stalker alone can get more kills than an empath and a blaster.
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Let's say me and thrusty we're in warburg you wouldn't be able to burst through my healing the only thing that annoys me about stalkers us the stun from energy melee but if i have bfs that wouldn't be a problem. I constantly move so you'll get 1 hit in then I start spamming heal aura and run. Sorry can't se how a stalker alone can get more kills than an empath and a blaster.
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Well you can speak for only you and thrusty. Not all empath+blaster duos. Skill is always a factor in pvp.
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My final thought.. Stalkers underpowered.. Hell no. I have played my MA/SR in all kinds of zones and even when against a Blaster/Emp combo I scored alot more kills then they managed it's all timing and LOS. When I'm seen it makes the whole PvP alot more fun.
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Thanks for the vote of confidance Psy
It was two pairs of this combo in SC that i played around with once with my duo stlaker buddy. At the end of it they wern't getting the kills as we could burst through the emp's healing.
Also using placiate at the right time and blocking shots by corners is what we did which ended up us earning alot of kills.. Waiting for a blaster to run at u then hit BU & Aim then u placiate before he gets to melee can annoy them a fair bit
Blaster/Emp combos r good but not invicible imo
it's the whole thing with getting used to fighting with being seen it takes a while to get right on stlakers but can be very very effective
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Let's say me and thrusty we're in warburg you wouldn't be able to burst through my healing the only thing that annoys me about stalkers us the stun from energy melee but if i have bfs that wouldn't be a problem. I constantly move so you'll get 1 hit in then I start spamming heal aura and run. Sorry can't se how a stalker alone can get more kills than an empath and a blaster.
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I was the other stalker in this duo, the blaster/emp in question were from one the most successfull PvP SGs on Defiant.
And yep, I'm pretty sure two well co-ordinated stalkers could out damage your healing lets remember your not invincible 
i have to think the worse enermy to a stalker is a blaster because some can see you and they are ranged.
it has happned to me a few times just flying along gona get one then blam iam dead with a few hits by crapy bolts.
stalkers need better protection from ranged attacks. ?
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No, actually, they don't. You need to learn to deal with the fact that a blaster who pops Aim and Build Up back-to-back gets an eight second window where they can defeat the DEF of... well, just about anyone, actually. In PvE it's enough to hit a Paragon Protector through Moment of Glory.
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a forted blaster hits through your defense easily.
I play stalker everyday, and I have no moans about them, in fact i have turned off my broadcast now in pvp because i hear hero's moan so much about silly stalkers etc... I love them and im constantly working on new ways to take hero's down.
Im not great, but for every 10 kills I get, I may get killed twice. A true stalker has patients, you get to decide when and were the fight goes, just stay out of sight till that time
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Buffed by a troupe of forcefielders' and cold corruptors' shields and keeping the blast0r under stacks of rad debuffs helps against fighting the blaster wearing one fortitude.
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A true stalker has patients, you get to decide when and were the fight goes, just stay out of sight till that time
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One of my fave stalkers said the same thing only this way "Wait for the Jack Sparrow oppertune moment". I like that way better :O)
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Buffed by a troupe of forcefielders' and cold corruptors' shields and keeping the blast0r under stacks of rad debuffs helps against fighting the blaster wearing one fortitude.
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Blaster probably would still hit through with PB'd Aim and BU, as well as fort.
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a forted blaster hits through your defense easily.
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Blaster probably would still hit through with PB'd Aim and BU, as well as fort.
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For ages I've considered most corruptor shields useless against blasters anyway.
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Blaster probably would still hit through with PB'd Aim and BU, as well as fort.
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Depends how many stacked rad debuffs we're talking about.
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Blaster probably would still hit through with PB'd Aim and BU, as well as fort.
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If it takes multiple players just to nullify one surely its a good indication that something has gone horribly wrong somewhere?
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If it takes multiple players just to nullify one surely its a good indication that something has gone horribly wrong somewhere?
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Well, I think the original post was "omg, our emp + blaster pwns your stalker", so I thought it was the way this thread worked.
Edit: and by original post, I mean Psyc's "a forted blaster hits through your defense easily.", not the real OP.
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If it takes multiple players just to nullify one surely its a good indication that something has gone horribly wrong somewhere?
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Well, I think the original post was "omg, our emp + blaster pwns your stalker", so I thought it was the way this thread worked.
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oh emp and blaster combo. Sorry I'm still half asleep and tried to put the coffee jar in the fridge.
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iirc psydock the fact a blaster is forted will not stop it being placated. You say the fact u can pop BFs and have heal aura mean they wont kill you, well the stalkers could be popping reds both attack and kill you, run for the hills till they can placate the blaster again, and with the new stealth IOs CM aint gonna help the blaster so much anymore.
Ofc skill factor will come into it tho if the emp or blaster stray to far away from each other the stalkers should have a good chance of winning imo.
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iirc psydock the fact a blaster is forted will not stop it being placated. You say the fact u can pop BFs and have heal aura mean they wont kill you, well the stalkers could be popping reds both attack and kill you, run for the hills till they can placate the blaster again, and with the new stealth IOs CM aint gonna help the blaster so much anymore.
Ofc skill factor will come into it tho if the emp or blaster stray to far away from each other the stalkers should have a good chance of winning imo.
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Using reds doesnt garanti the kill. Its just too hard to get close enough with the empath doing his SJ rutine.
If the stalkers do manage to drop the empath, they also loose hide which means the blaster is free to rain chaos, and it should be enough for the blaster to get a kill making it a draw again. Or maybe a failed spiking attempt on the emp will result in the blaster getting a kill. There are a lot of ways the stalkers could drop the match if they arent very, very precise (or lucky).
Another good question is where they fight. On the office map I serously doubt the stalkers have even a small chance since the blaster is bound to find them, and once he does, its not easy being a stalker. On an open map like perez they will have a hard time getting the jumping emp, but at at least they will be able to choose the when to fight.
Anyways ill give the blaster/emp a small edge due to the luck of the map.
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If it's in the RV I would focus on TP foe+TF+epic hold on the empath, until he is out of breakies. If the blaster comes around, dull pain+phase while running the hell out of the place. I wouldn't be the one eating all my insps tho... or else i could just command my heavy to 1shot the empath and save me the work
pffft. another tp foe user. can shove that wear the sun dont shine tyvm
i agree all other AT's expect stalkers should be removed from pvp!!!
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Don't forget that the Hide power is NOT your most powerful power in your set, Placate is as it immediately offers you a chance to attack. Used correctly, and at the right time, Placate has given me a lot of notches on my Stalkers belt in terms of defeated Hero's.
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When Devs fix placate anyway and stop saying that its not broken, while it is. Its been Tested and Confirmed by US players and EU players that actually it is broken, then ill talk about placate.
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i agree all other AT's expect stalkers should be removed from pvp!!!
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Wont ever happen. See a /Devices blaster against a stalker. Or a couple of Clear mind and other Perception + Buffs. What a stalker can do? Nothing. Untill there is a big crowd in pvp and he sneaks on them. What is the AT has the most hate-factor in pvp and getting ganked if seen? Stalkers. People are afraid of the AS strike and like that Stalkers got low HP. (Which is fair imo) At RV for example playing a stalker is not as easy as it is at SC/WB. because of the fact that many ATs (Including Scrapper with double perception and their critical change) can see them (Apart if they have Invisibility, but this wont let you attack) Stalkers, are no doubt, annoying in pvp. But they are as overpowered as you think?
PvP isn't more or less fair on any AT, at least in the zones. Because you can pick your battles.
As a Stalker, you can do this more than most. Watch for the diseased, the elderly, or the wounded, and pick them off when they stray from the herd.
Over-reliance on build rather than strategy leads to calls for nerfing and buffing, where players would obtain a lot more success by readjusting their tactics.
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In My opinion, if you cant kill your enemy one way then try and find another..i wouldnt say PvP is unfair on stalkers just people are getting more wised up about them.
Sorry if someone already said something along the lines of what i already said, couldnt be bother to read the whole thread