State of pvp attitude areas presently

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I had my first taste of the sour side of zonal pvp on the weekend. I decided to pop into RV for a bit of action on my level 50 villain. I was one of only two villains in the zone and there were about 12 heroes. The heroes were there to farm the turrets and I decided I'd make things slightly more difficult for them. I grabbed a Heavy and started to win back pillboxes for the villains. This was met with a torrent of abuse over broadcast. I decided to not let this faze me and carried on, adamant that if I did run into the heroes I'd try and put up a good fight. 12 against 1 aren’t really the best odds but I had nothing to lose. Of course I lost many times (as you would expect), but were the broadcast messages saying that I was selfish (the actual messages weren’t that polite) really necessary. I mean, there wasn't really a lot I could do against a dozen heroes except slow them down marginally. The reaction I got was as if I was leading a 12 villain strong gank squad against a solo badger.

I shrugged it off anyway and continued to put up a fight for a while. I certainly won't let it put me off visiting the zones, but can see what it could do to people a little less thick skinned and/or new to the game.

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Sounds like the usual RV attitude to me, I am starting to think there is some kind of radiation that turns people into idiots in that zone. Saddly its not restricted to any particular server either.

Its a shame really as my hero is getting to high to lurk around sirens call much longer, and I would really love to use my higher powers in pvp a bit more rather than having my power bars set for lvl 30 play (Spurr is lvl 40 now).

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I had nothing to lose. Of course I lost many times

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This bit cracked me up
I see what you mean though. I was trying to slow a ton of heroes down in BB while they were doing shivans, but with the superior numbers it was like throwing eggs at a tank. I kept going at them anyway for the challenge. Speaking of BB I got almost non stop attitude for hours at the weekend. Just for killing a few heroes I got told "Flush your head down a toilet and drown you ugly midget" and other fantastic one liners. These guys were actually quite funny but I suspect they were'nt enjoying themselves much. Eventually they left, then an illusion/rad troller started up because:

I used inspirations.

He was dumb enough to leap into some shivans AND freaks during the hold supression period, making his debt my fault. (I suspect this was to force me to let him go or just give him something to complain about).

I used tk to push him towards some stalkers, but because a turret on the villain base shot him he assumed I was trying to get him debt. This is even though I released him from TK and he escaped debt free.

Ah, it wasnt all bad though. We had a lot of fun, and I fought a nice regen for what felt like ages.

I love those moments when you are horribly outnumbered I like to think as long as I am good humoured about it then people have fun, and after the first 20 or thirty of my deaths the enemy usually start to "open up" and talk or at least use different tactics.

The only time it really gets dull is if the enemy just dont talk....Damn it I spend time wokring on my death moans :P

The RV thing on Union was a large group of badge hunters taking out AVs for badges. Organised and advertised on the badge hunter channel. I turned up halfway through just before you started taking over pillboxes. I think it really annoyed some of them because the AVs they were fighting disappeared. From what i saw the broadcasts started off polite and then got progressively worse when you continued to take over pillboxes. Doesn't help when your on hide and the only other villain in the zone is watching the heroes fight the AVs and cheering the heroes on.

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The RV thing on Union was a large group of badge hunters taking out AVs for badges. Organised and advertised on the badge hunter channel. I turned up halfway through just before you started taking over pillboxes. I think it really annoyed some of them because the AVs they were fighting disappeared. From what i saw the broadcasts started off polite and then got progressively worse when you continued to take over pillboxes. Doesn't help when your on hide and the only other villain in the zone is watching the heroes fight the AVs and cheering the heroes on.

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So because this was organised by a bunch of badge hunters I should have just left the zone and done sonething else?

To be honest I don't pay a great deal of attention to chat in pvp zones, i'm focused on playing. It was only when I happened to see my name appearing a dozen times that I realised what was going on. I wasn't in the zone to purposely spoil people's fun, I was in there to play the zone; destroy pillboxes and fight heroes.

I guess the warning needs to be amended on entering the zone - PvP may occur providing there isn't a player orginised farming event taking place.

What nonsense.

No just don't complain when several heroes start hunting you down to stop you from taking over pillboxes. The badge hunters shouldn't shout over broadcast either. Just organise a search and destroy team.

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The RV thing on Union was a large group of badge hunters taking out AVs for badges. Organised and advertised on the badge hunter channel.

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Maybe he was trying to get the 400 rep badge.
A case of bad luck for the farmers and try again later.

What farmers? Lol. The pillboxes were hardly touched except to get the right combination for the AVs that needed defeating. I think it was more of a case of bad luck for the villains who were in the zone. Altho some were requesting to be confused so they could help out near the end of the event.

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No just don't complain when several heroes start hunting you down to stop you from taking over pillboxes. The badge hunters shouldn't shout over broadcast either. Just organise a search and destroy team.

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Point taken. I didn't complain in game and I didn't actually mind being hunted down (it was kind of fun). I just wanted to share my experience and this thread is the right place.

What I do object to was abusive broadcast, all I was doing was using the zone in it's intended fashion. But as I say, I'm fairly thick skinned and it certainly wont faze me.

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What farmers? Lol. The pillboxes were hardly touched except to get the right combination for the AVs that needed defeating.

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What are you? The laughing hyena?
badgers then.

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I think it was more of a case of bad luck for the villains who were in the zone.

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Except that the villains werent bothered.

Yes its bad to be a badger in a pvp zone. They might get their fur singed by a passing fire tank. Probably an endangered species in the future. Not that you get badgers in America.

I can sympathise with your experience Blind_Minotaur. I was a tad bored one day on CoV and thus looked at my global to see if I could team with anyone. Noticed that a fair few of my global friends were on heroes in RV and decided I'd go spoil their day being the rotten villain that I am. I went there and was stunned by the numbers of heroes there, at which point it occured to me that they were after the Arch Villains. I decided those filthy heroes weren't gonna get away with it without a fight so I helped my fellow villains. Only to be met with verbal hostility unlike anything I had ever experienced before. Little was said in broadcast but a whole lot was said in tells, which i ignored and didn't respond to but they did their job at making me angry and upset. This was a planned event on these forums as I found out during my time there and I guess as such I should have bowed down and exited the zone.

I thought that the whole idea of RV was to battle for the zone and to defeat set AV's or Heroes. How wrong I was.

I know this post may contradict my previous one but I see this as a whole different setup as to regular pvp. You could argue that it shouldn't be the case etc. but I won't go into that. Plus it happened a long time ago.

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I thought that the whole idea of RV was to battle for the zone and to defeat set AV's or Heroes. How wrong I was.

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I was there that day on my tanker and quite enjoyed your attacks - I thought it added an extra fun element. If I'd known you were getting hostile tells I'd have logged out there and then. RV is for PvP and people who enter the zone just for AVs need to accept that the other side is well within their rights to make it difficult for them. I've only helped people with the AVs one other time apart from that and that time it fell apart due to the high number of villains who came into the zone to "spoil" the AV hunt. Personally, I enjoyed the struggle against the villains and stayed around for a while afterwards to see how long my tank could stay upright against the mass of villains. I doubt I'll ever take part in another AV hunt in RV - I don't like teaming with people who spout abuse at the other side when they spoil their plans by not following made up rules of conduct.

I suppose if you want to avoid getting flamed you could find out if anything is going on in the zone first and walk away if there's some organised event or set it so you don't recieve enemy tells or hear them on broadcast when you purposefully set out to foil the enemies efforts and they are the enemy not just 'the other side'. This also makes you their enemy and nobody likes enemies lol. So venom over tells might be justified but you can block it and your not breaking any rules except those made by players. So you won't get banned, just disliked. Edit: For any tells that aren't justified such as the downright personal nasty ones, petition them. Might be there a while though if you annoy a zone of AV hunters.

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I suppose if you want to avoid getting flamed you could find out if anything is going on in the zone first and walk away if there's some organised event

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You mean like when you have to call the golf course before leaving the house, just incase someone has organised a football match there that day?

What has that got to do with the PvP zone situation? One golf course's weren't intended to be used as football pitches and two i think it would be more dangerous for the football players. Imagine getting hit by a golf club :S I can sort of see what your getting at but my suggestion of leaving the zone is more out of politeness. I think using a sports hall as a tennis court and having to ring up to check to see if the footballers were playing is a better analogy.

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my suggestion of leaving the zone is more out of politeness.

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Fair enough. But you cant expect others to return the favour. I've been polite enough in the past to sit out and make the sides more balanced only have members of your sg repeatedly tp and kill me anyway.

True and thats up to the individual players whether to be nice or not. As for getting teleported and defeated, you were in the PvP zone so you agreed to PvP. Disagreeing to PvP involves leaving the zone.

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True and thats up to the individual players whether to be nice or not. As for getting teleported and defeated, you were in the PvP zone so you agreed to PvP. Disagreeing to PvP involves leaving the zone.

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I'm failing to follow you here. You are know saying that if you are in a zone you are agreeing to PvP, and that if you don't want to PvP you should leave the zone. However, only a few posts back you were implying that people should check to see if there are any player organised NON-PVP activities going on and again, leave the zone. By your logic when exactly is it ok for me to stay in the zone??

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you were in the PvP zone so you agreed to PvP. Disagreeing to PvP involves leaving the zone.

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Thats kind of the point I was trying to make concerning people hunting AV's, farming pillboxes, etc... :P

Just to clarify then, if your in a PvP zone your fair game. Purposefully setting out to stop an event in a PvP zone is also fair game but not everyone will like it and thats tough on them. You can either let them have their way and leave the zone or block all communication and continue anyway safe in the fact you are not insulting anyone or doing a petitionable offense. Just be prepared for them stopping you have your fun in stopping them having theirs.

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Just to clarify then, if your in a PvP zone your fair game. Purposefully setting out to stop an event in a PvP zone is also fair game but not everyone will like it and thats tough on them. You can either let them have their way and leave the zone or block all communication and continue anyway safe in the fact you are not insulting anyone or doing a petitionable offense. Just be prepared for them stopping you have your fun in stopping them having theirs.

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That makes a lot more sense and are certainly rules I can abide by

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Just to clarify then, if your in a PvP zone your fair game. Purposefully setting out to stop an event in a PvP zone is also fair game but not everyone will like it and thats tough on them. You can either let them have their way and leave the zone or block all communication and continue anyway safe in the fact you are not insulting anyone or doing a petitionable offense. Just be prepared for them stopping you have your fun in stopping them having theirs.

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Not really sure how they'd stop me having my fun, after all I want to PvP, and they on ly way they got to stop me is by PvP'ing!

Course it'll probably be 20 vs 1. But hey I can take 'em >.>

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Just to clarify then, if your in a PvP zone your fair game.

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Yes, as is made quite clear by the in-game warnings you receive when entering such a zone.

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Purposefully setting out to stop an event in a PvP zone is also fair game but not everyone will like it and thats tough on them. You can either let them have their way and leave the zone or block all communication and continue anyway safe in the fact you are not insulting anyone or doing a petitionable offense. Just be prepared for them stopping you have your fun in stopping them having theirs.

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This would depend on the situation. In general, though, players don't have the right to take over an entire zone for their personal use, whether it's for an organised event or not.

I would strongly recommend that anyone organising some kind of event take the time to consider the impact that their event will have on other players, the impact that other players may have on the event, and how best to deal with these situations.

If the event is to take place in a PvP zone, you should also take into account the fact that other players may be using the zone, and it's perfectly reasonable for players in a PvP zone to engage other players they encounter in PvP.

If you want to fight specific people without the risk of being interrupted by other players, that's what the Arena is for.

In any and all cases, running an event does not give anyone the right to violate the EULA or associated Code of Conduct that all players agree to abide by when starting the game.

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Just to clarify then, if your in a PvP zone your fair game. Purposefully setting out to stop an event in a PvP zone is also fair game but not everyone will like it and thats tough on them. You can either let them have their way and leave the zone or block all communication and continue anyway safe in the fact you are not insulting anyone or doing a petitionable offense. Just be prepared for them stopping you have your fun in stopping them having theirs.

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This is the correct interpretation of how the PVP zones are.. I know getting the RV AV badges is next to impossible if the opposing side is sabotaging it..And Ive flown off the handle myself when its been done to me but unfortunately Stryker is still right. They have a right to do it. Tough.