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I wouldn't really know though, MM's don't really feel the pain off anything except AoE, and blissfully no one thinks to use that in Pvp
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It has happened before though. 
Defender attacks Mastermind with AoE
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Don't post things like that! Everyone knows it's best to just try burst down the MM, just ignore the pets and you'll be fine. Trust me, would I lie to you?
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Most of my toons are squishies and I've never had massive issues with EM Stun's.
Even Solo in the Zones, use BF's, a team with support (shock horror) and in Sirens, you can pick up strength of wills.
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meh everytime i have to point out we cant all get people to come at the drop of a hat (in responce to the 'support' bit)
BF's understandable, but the amount u have to burn to even think of having a go @ 'said' enemy means u aint got room for any others.
load of ballz tbh pvp is in CoH, they're isn't one good thing that comes out of it
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Most of my toons are squishies and I've never had massive issues with EM Stun's.
Even Solo in the Zones, use BF's, a team with support (shock horror) and in Sirens, you can pick up strength of wills.
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meh everytime i have to point out we cant all get people to come at the drop of a hat (in responce to the 'support' bit)
BF's understandable, but the amount u have to burn to even think of having a go @ 'said' enemy means u aint got room for any others.
load of ballz tbh pvp is in CoH, they're isn't one good thing that comes out of it
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Then stop posting, I mean, I could understand if your drivel was constructive, but it really isn't from what I can see. I mean, why are you even still here, you've made it quite clear in the past that you don't actually like the game any more, and you seem to "quit" every other month.
Fact is there are numerous counters to Energy Melee's stuns, just as there are counters to Holds, TK etc... This is a team based game so PvP is balanced for a team situation.
Whining that a damage set gives you issue solo, on a squishy, in PvP won't really get you anywhere.
Everything else is underpowered in comparison to EM? Doesn't mean that EM is the problem.
One day someone will moan that Forcefields don't reduce the amount of damage you take in one go (hit once) or they'll complain about the lack of DoT in Energy. That sonic can't heal or Mind control has no pets.
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I believe the problem, if there is one, remains with Power Boost.
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The discussion was about the prevalence of EM stalkers, brutes and tankers too..
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I realise that, but I don't think that there is a problem with tank or stalker em. The only noteworthy imbalance in comparison to other sets is blaster em, and that is because by choosing that set you instantly double the secondary effects of all your primary, secondary and epic powers for 70% of the time. The other sets get nothing comparable and tbh, that probably is a little unfair.
For example, pb'd pff cannot be hit through regularly by aim and build up alone, but pb'd aim and build up will hit through consistently. Then think of the effect it has on snowstorm, aid self, stuns etc. You instantly put yourself at a disadvantage to some degree, by not choosing blaster EM, and that is a problem. The tank and stalker versions do not have such a large advantage over the other sets available.
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Recently when i've been pvping in the zones all i see is energy melee blasters, energy melee brutes, energy melee tankers and energy melee stalkers.
I have 3 energy melee toons my self. I think they should
reduce the stuns chance of the powers it's too great. Makes it a pain playing a squishy. What do you guys think of this.
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Fact is there are numerous counters to Energy Melee's stuns, just as there are counters to Holds, TK etc... This is a team based game so PvP is balanced for a team situation.
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Can you show me the counter to stacked CM's then? A counter mind not "erm...oh.. default to 'find a team'".
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Kill the Empath? TK the buffed opponent, det field, sonic cage, black hole, dimension shift?
kill the empath
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kill the empath
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Kill the Empath? TK the buffed opponent, det field, sonic cage, black hole, dimension shift?
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Guaranteed to get rid of CM in 60 seconds. Needs re applying everytime you see the empath. Remember its not a cure but it does remove the effects of the infliction.
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Just a quick note about being 'perma held'. I do not think it is 'supposed' to be possible, but a dom in warburg recently proved me wrong...with domination up, he was able to perma hold me whilst his fire imps took me down from full health to death without me moving a muscle ( albeit I didnt have dull pain running, or IH for that matter...but it can be done )
[/ QUOTE ]I believe the way it works is that suppression (for 15 seconds) kicks in when a mez effect affecting you wears off. With domination and (potentially) powerboost, the mez duration of the dom would be prety damn long, so it could appear to be perma.
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Most of my toons are squishies and I've never had massive issues with EM Stun's.
Even Solo in the Zones, use BF's, a team with support (shock horror) and in Sirens, you can pick up strength of wills.
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meh everytime i have to point out we cant all get people to come at the drop of a hat (in responce to the 'support' bit)
BF's understandable, but the amount u have to burn to even think of having a go @ 'said' enemy means u aint got room for any others.
load of ballz tbh pvp is in CoH, they're isn't one good thing that comes out of it
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kinda pathetic that u post about something u dont care about. do u have nothing better or of any value to do other than reading about something u dont like?
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Kill the Empath? TK the buffed opponent, det field, sonic cage, black hole, dimension shift?
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exactly. u dont even have to kill the empath. just chase him giving him enough problems that he cant focus on buffing on the team
i'll post where and how i like tyvm.
i'm in agreement with psy and i reallllly couldnt give a dman wether u like what i type or not; aint anything to do with either of you.
enf od the day we're not all gonna agree with what u "lords of the mmo's" think.
anyway bk to topic.
stun is too great, and as i said u just cant keep racking up the BF's with no room for others, AND you cant always find a team but still want to take part ina few pvp sessions etc.
just think some form of inherent to all archtypes to stun/disorient/fear etc, that maybe could be built on with lvl or at least something, as even with a BF, th shser power of BU etc and ngy transfer blasts the hell outta your hp IF not running away and maybe having somewhere to regen the HP again.
but oh no, THATS an opinion, sue me >.>
Way I deal with Empaths giving out CM is as said here. TPFoe empath. Watch my Mercs kill Empath in about 4 seconds. Repeat till Empath logs off and go back to actually enjoying CM free PvP again.
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Funny, thats they way I enjoy MM free PvP too
Someone should put a team of energy players together and they can have a face off against non energy toons. My money will be on non energy winning the match. Settle this in the arena
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Someone should put a team of energy players together and they can have a face off against non energy toons. My money will be on non energy winning the match. Settle this in the arena
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Id be up for it, providing either teams only comprise of damagedealing toons with EM or the other options, or both sides have same kind and number of support toons with them..
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Funny, thats they way I enjoy MM free PvP too
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Yeah, TPFoe can be a fastest fingers first game sometimes :/
As long as they're not sitting in thier base I don't have a problem with it, since I tend to get in thier face pretty fast anyway.
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Someone should put a team of energy players together and they can have a face off against non energy toons. My money will be on non energy winning the match. Settle this in the arena
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yep, pretty much obviopus though
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Someone should put a team of energy players together and they can have a face off against non energy toons. My money will be on non energy winning the match. Settle this in the arena
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yep, pretty much obviopus though
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What is obvious?
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Someone should put a team of energy players together and they can have a face off against non energy toons. My money will be on non energy winning the match. Settle this in the arena
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yep, pretty much obviopus though
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What is obvious?
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My money will be on non energy winning the match.
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Assuming that the non-energy team is well balanced, and not just damage dealers also, as you suggested.
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not really
you could have empath/energy defenders
kin/energy defender
sonic/energy defender :P
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Assuming that the non-energy team is well balanced, and not just damage dealers also, as you suggested.
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And I pointed out earlier that its not much of a point to have only EM toons versus balanced team with support. If you want to prove EM better or not, then should have a fair fight.
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Most of my toons are squishies and I've never had massive issues with EM Stun's.
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Same here. However I do have issues with the fact that I don't want to take other sets than EM for several toons eligible for it, simply because EM is so much above others. The others need buffing. And I still have the same issue with war mace as I have had since I5 and ED. Buff it please.