PvP zone exploits


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As I see it technically nothing is exploiting its just poor design/bad coding. Exploit is usually used by the devs to shift the onus of blame onto the player and not their work, after all if they coded and designed properly there would be nothing to exploit.


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I don't want discussion about right and wrong (note that the word exploit only exists in the topic), Id like all readers go ingame and /bug the cases mentioned here. That way problems may get fixed.

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Personally i agree 100% with you and wasnt referring to you Hammie just so you know.More to the OP.As for fixes well the fixes are known and 100000000 times suggested but well seems noone is listening.

-Make areas surrounded by drones to be tp-foe resistant

-Enhance defenses and drones range

-Make tp-foe work only in LoS (although i not like it based on the tp foe concept)

-Remove boxes from pvp zones or close them

-Give pvp a Code of Conduct

-Give PvP rules of engagement.

The last 2 points will also allow a better frame of behaviour and context within players and GM's will be able to petition and penalise respectively

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As I see it technically nothing is exploiting its just poor design/bad coding. Exploit is usually used by the devs to shift the onus of blame onto the player and not their work, after all if they coded and designed properly there would be nothing to exploit.

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Hahaha well thats a damn good explanation


 

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OR!!!! kill the devs and let us take over!1!!!!1oineone11!1

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OR!!!! kill the devs and let us take over!1!!!!1oineone11!1

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Seconded


 

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Seconded

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In PvP I hope Would be good to fight the Devs or NCsoft GMs in an arena match.


 

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Seconded

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In PvP I hope Would be good to fight the Devs or NCsoft GMs in an arena match.

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The devs would just use the Freedom Phalanx AVs - it wouldn't be much of a match


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Wasnt there a post on the US forums saying this wouldnt happen cos the devs are all rubbish at pvp? Either way, I would cheat like hell if it was me :P


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Seconded

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In PvP I hope Would be good to fight the Devs or NCsoft GMs in an arena match.

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The devs would just use the Freedom Phalanx AVs - it wouldn't be much of a match

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Although if the GMs are anything like actual police drones.. then they can just one shot- vaporize any target!

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heres a good expolit. stackable CM.


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heres a good expolit. stackable CM.

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Yeah, apart from the fact that it's not an exploit....


 

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These are not exploits.This is design fault and the fact that the devs insist to not change this bad creation shows something.


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I disagree - the cause is poor zone design on behalf of the Devs the effect is players exploiting the bad zone desgn to enable them to do things that the game is not desinged to do.

TP from within a base is an exploit used by players that is caused by the poor design of the zone/poor implementation of game design. In this case players are exploiting poor design to gain an unfair advantage.


 

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heres a good expolit. stackable CM.

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Yeah, apart from the fact that it's not an exploit....

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Either way it breaks pvp.


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heres a good expolit. stackable CM.

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Yeah, apart from the fact that it's not an exploit....

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Either way it breaks pvp.

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how exactly? of course i would prefer facts rather than ur opinion


 

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heres a good expolit. stackable CM.

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Yeah, apart from the fact that it's not an exploit....

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Either way it breaks pvp.

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how exactly? of course i would prefer facts rather than ur opinion

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Ok, it breaks it for me then. Sorry I havent put my point across very pleasantly so far, I'm still annoyed.
One CM gives a target tanker level mezz protection, it takes 3 dom boosted holds to hold a tanker. Realisticaly you could CM a small team with 5 to 10 times tanker level mezz protection. Now. IMO. it is impossible to stack between 15 to 50 dom boosted holds on a target. In that environment you would be lucky to even build domination in the 1st place so it would take about double the holds.
Q a load of people telling me I'm moaning, but consider if res shields were to stack from the same caster...

btw. this isnt just a villian issue. I believe thaw from thermal stacks from the same caster as well, not sure, so maybe someone who plays a thermal can confirm or deny that for me.


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And Clarify from the Sonic Resonance set stacks also, which both sides can get.


 

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i think you can stack thaw from thermal rad too.


 

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heres a good expolit. stackable CM.

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Yeah, apart from the fact that it's not an exploit....

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Either way it breaks pvp.

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how exactly? of course i would prefer facts rather than ur opinion

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Ok, it breaks it for me then. Sorry I havent put my point across very pleasantly so far, I'm still annoyed.
One CM gives a target tanker level mezz protection, it takes 3 dom boosted holds to hold a tanker. Realisticaly you could CM a small team with 5 to 10 times tanker level mezz protection. Now. IMO. it is impossible to stack between 15 to 50 dom boosted holds on a target. In that environment you would be lucky to even build domination in the 1st place so it would take about double the holds.
Q a load of people telling me I'm moaning, but consider if res shields were to stack from the same caster...

btw. this isnt just a villian issue. I believe thaw from thermal stacks from the same caster as well, not sure, so maybe someone who plays a thermal can confirm or deny that for me.

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Even worse was it for my dominator once.

A defender shrugged off 7 holds, blasters shrugging off about 4 holds, a defender shrugging off 4 DOMINATION BOOSTED HOLDS (held her on the 5'th) and controllers shrugging off about 4 holds....I didnt even bothered trying to hold any of the scrappers or tankers.

It was like that for about an hour in Sirens Call.


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i think you can stack thaw from thermal rad too.

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Worth noting, Thaw doesn't give as comprehensive mez protection as Clear Mind (no Fear, Confuse).


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I think n00bs who whine should get pwned, and my mate aggrees with me

No rules, so get a team thats better than your opponent and you should win. not to mention ZOMG insps!? cant tp thru some of them, but that would require some basic knowledge of how to play the game.

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TPing afkers from inside base.

AS a resting brute on 10hp.

AFKers, farming the badge for time spent in SC.

All pretty cheap, but things that u know are going to happen so its up to u to make sure that when they DO happen u are not the victim.

Also why should non-PvP get a say in what changes the PvP zone should have? Cant u just exploit the badge while dead?

It also could potentially mess up the bounty system if there are only 1 or 2 people in the zone, if the AFKer was doing hotspots till an enemy arrived.